Pastor to Pastor

Allen Kleine Deters

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Mental Health

Pastors are human beings who deal with the same life stuff everyone else does. Through conversations with people in the field and with knowledge and understanding from lived experience, we support pastors in their journey of mental wellness. Statistics show us that pastors are notoriously lacking in self-care and soul-care. Hosted by Allen Kleine Deters, a pastor for nearly 35 years.

01/26/2021

EP#8 Soul Care Part 2 (with Cathy Gates)

Surprisingly pastors are not too good with their own soul care. Many pastors feel driven by the tyranny of ministry or everyone else’s urgency — or at least what they think is most urgent. How we take care of our bodies and our mental and emotional state through healthy lifestyle is very important. But, perhaps even more important is the condition of our soul. Often the unresolved and unhealed wounds of our lives fester and infect everything soul allowing Jesus to bring healing into those wounds is crucial in daily disciple living. Allen talks with Cathy Gates, Director of Thrive Ministries, a ministry to support pastors. https://thriveministries.ca/ Cathy mentioned a sacred pathways assessment to help you understand yourself better in light of what ways you best communicate with God. That is not to say that others are not just as important, but some naturally lend themselves to going deeper with the Lord. Sacred Pathways came from a book of the same name written by Gary Thomas Free Assessment here
01/11/2021

EP#7 Soul Care (with Cathy Gates)

Surprisingly pastors are not too good with their own soul care. Many pastors feel driven by the tyranny of ministry or everyone else's urgency -- or at least what they think is most urgent. How we take care of our bodies and our mental and emotional state through healthy lifestyle is very important. But, perhaps even more important is the condition of our soul. Often the unresolved and unhealed wounds of our lives fester and infect everything soul allowing Jesus to bring healing into those wounds is crucial in daily disciple living. Allen talks with Cathy Gates, Director of Thrive Ministries, a ministry to support pastors. https://thriveministries.ca/ Cathy mentioned a sacred pathways assessment to help you understand yourself better in light of what ways you best communicate with God. That is not to say that others are not just as important, but some naturally lend themselves to going deeper with the Lord. Sacred Pathways came from a book of the same name written by Gary Thomas Free Assessment here
10/30/2020

EP#6 When Narcissism Comes to Church PART 2 (with Chuck DeGroat)

Allen and Chuck DeGroat have a focused conversation about what narcissism looks like in systems, particularly the church and the pain it causes. Chuck DeGroat is Professor of Pastoral Care and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary, Holland MI, and Senior Fellow at Newbigin House of Studies, San Francisco. He is an author (numerous books), speaker, consultant, and therapist. His book, When Narcissism Comes to Church is getting great reviews while the topic is a conversation that has been a long time coming. Grab a copy on Amazon. SUPPORT FOR OUR MINISTRY:Help keep our radio programming and podcasts going with a donation, either one time or monthly. Go to agoranetworkministries.com and click the donation link. Let us know what you're supporting. As always, we encourage you if you are struggling with your mental health and are in crisis to call the mental health hotline. Someone with proper training will listen and guide you toward a healthy response. If you are considering suicide please contact a friend and call the SUICIDE HOTLINE …and contact your counsellor or therapist immediately. In Canada Call the crisis hotline 1.833.456.4566 | Text 45645 or go to crisisservicescanada.ca In the United States call 911 or 1-800-784-2433 or go to suicide.org for numbers in your area
10/29/2020

EP#5 When Narcissism Comes to Church (with Chuck DeGroat)

Allen and Chuck DeGroat have a focused conversation about what narcissism looks like in a pastor or church leader. Chuck DeGroat is Professor of Pastoral Care and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary, Holland MI, and Senior Fellow at Newbigin House of Studies, San Francisco. He is an author (numerous books), speaker, consultant, and therapist. His book, When Narcissism Comes to Church is getting great reviews while the topic is a conversation that has been a long time coming. SUPPORT FOR OUR MINISTRY:Help keep our radio programming and podcasts going with a donation, either one time or monthly. Go to agoranetworkministries.com and click the donation link. Let us know what you're supporting. As always, we encourage you if you are struggling with your mental health and are in crisis to call the mental health hotline. Someone with proper training will listen and guide you toward a healthy response. If you are considering suicide please contact a friend and call the SUICIDE HOTLINE …and contact your counsellor or therapist immediately. In Canada Call the crisis hotline 1.833.456.4566 | Text 45645 or go to crisisservicescanada.ca In the United States call 911 or 1-800-784-2433 or go to suicide.org for numbers in your area
09/26/2020

EP#4 Pastors and Suicide PART 2 (with Bart Campbell)

Pastors struggle with suicide ideology just like other people who may be struggling with their mental health. Allen has a conversation with Bart Campbell about the struggles pastors face in the church that also contribute to problems with their mental health and ways to deal with it. Bart has been working with people struggling with suicide and addictions for over 15 years. He is part of the Agora Network Ministries team and leads our Suicide Prevention training and Healthy Self-Esteem workshops. Our conversation went on for over an hour. This is PART 2 of that conversation. SUPPORT FOR OUR MINISTRY: Help keep our radio programming and podcasts going with a donation, either one time or monthly. Go to agoranetworkministries.com and click the donation link. Let us know what you're supporting. As always, we encourage you if you are struggling with your mental health and are in crisis to call the mental health hotline. Someone with proper training will listen and guide you toward a healthy response. If you are considering suicide please contact a friend and call the SUICIDE HOTLINE …and contact your counsellor or therapist immediately. In Canada Call the crisis hotline 1.833.456.4566 | Text 45645 or go to crisisservicescanada.ca In the United States call 911 or 1-800-784-2433 or go to suicide.org for numbers in your area.
09/25/2020

EP#3 Pastors and Suicide PART 1 (with Bart Campbell)

Pastors struggle with suicide ideology just like other people who may be struggling with their mental health. Allen has a conversation with Bart Campbell about the struggles pastors face in the church that also contribute to problems with their mental health and ways to deal with it. Bart has been working with people struggling with suicide and addictions for over 15 years. He is part of the Agora Network Ministries team and leads our Suicide Prevention training and Healthy Self-Esteem workshops. This conversation continues past our 30 minute episode and can be found as Part 2 in our podcast play list. SUPPORT FOR OUR MINISTRY:Help keep our radio programming and podcasts going with a donation, either one time or monthly. Go to agoranetworkministries.com and click the donation link. Let us know what you're supporting. As always, we encourage you if you are struggling with your mental health and are in crisis to call the mental health hotline. Someone with proper training will listen and guide you toward a healthy response. If you are considering suicide please contact a friend and call the SUICIDE HOTLINE …and contact your counsellor or therapist immediately. In Canada Call the crisis hotline 1.833.456.4566 | Text 45645 or go to crisisservicescanada.ca In the United States call 911 or 1-800-784-2433 or go to suicide.org for numbers in your area.
08/28/2020

EP#2 Pastors and the Trauma of Ministry

Host Allen Kleine Deters speaks with Dr. Danjuma Gibson, a registered psychotherapist and professor of Pastoral Care at Calvin Theological Seminary regarding the traumas and stresses pastor's face and how stigma often keeps pastors from getting the mental health support they need.
07/31/2020

EP #1 PASTOR TO PASTOR INTRO: A Story of a Hurting Pastor

Host Allen Kleine Deters introduces our new podcast, PASTOR TO PASTOR, by sharing his own journey as a pastor through trauma, the struggles of ministry and clinical depression. It's a story of healing and God's grace. Find out more about Agora Network Ministries, Pastor Care ministry. Allen Kleine Deters is the Pastor Care Coordinator for Agora Network Ministries a growing ministry that focuses on helping churches deal with the stigma of mental health.

8 Episodes

Pastors are human beings who deal with the same life stuff everyone else does. Through conversations with people in the field and with knowledge and understanding from lived experience, we support pastors in their journey of mental wellness. Statistics show us that pastors are notoriously lacking in self-care and soul-care. Hosted by Allen Kleine Deters, a pastor for nearly 35 years.

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Allen Kleine Deters
Years Active

2020 - 2021
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8
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