ESG Matters @ Ashurst Podcast

Ashurst Perkins Coie

Sustainability is an issue that affects us all, but how can we take steps to provoke meaningful change and make a lasting impact on environmental, social and governance issues across the globe? We explore the intersection of business value with business values for a more prosperous and sustainable future.

  1. 4d ago

    Nearing Net Zero: Data centres and the social license question

    Across many parts of the world, data center investment is being blocked due to community opposition. In this podcast, Ashurst Perkins Coie’s Elena Lambros and Dan Brown reflect on the lessons for data center developers and financiers in Australia. Together, Dan and Elena reflect on the eye watering sums of data center investment dollars that have been stalled or withdrawn in the US and UK recently. They explain how governments are responding to community concerns around energy and water consumption. And most importantly, they consider potential solutions that could benefit people and planet, as well as profit. In the context of Australia, Dan and Elena explain how old fossil-fuel powered station sites could be repurposed to house data centers – offering developers pre-existing water, transmission and fiber infrastructure on sites already permitted under stringent environmental standards. They also highlight the benefits of clear, transparent community engagement for all data center developments. And they explain why a single, coherent fact base for ESG performance would benefit the data center industry, as well as the communities they serve. Check out past and future episodes of Nearing Net Zero on the Ashurst Perkins Coie website. And subscribe to ESG Matters by Ashurst Perkins Coie wherever you get your podcasts. The information provided is not intended to be a comprehensive review of all developments in law or practice, or to cover every aspect of the topics discussed. Listeners should obtain legal advice before applying it to specific issues or transactions. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  2. Aug 17

    Game Changers: Financing the energy transition

    Investment in the low carbon economy is growing, but so too are the challenges of allocating capital effectively. In this episode, we explore how investor priorities are evolving, what drives investment decisions, and the economic principles shaping the transition to a lower-carbon future. Ashurst Perkins Coie partner Lorraine Johnston is joined by Sahar Shamsi, Partner and co-head of the Energy and Climate Economics teams at Oxera, to discuss the intersection of economics, finance and climate. Sahar shares how investors are assessing climate-related risks and opportunities, the importance of policy and regulation in unlocking investment, and the practical barriers that continue to slow the pace of decarbonisation. The conversation also considers the role of sustainability reporting, the challenge of balancing risk and return, and why collaboration between policymakers, investors and industry will be critical to financing the energy transition. To listen, search for "Ashurst Perkins Coie Legal Outlook" on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or your preferred podcast platform. You can also explore the full range of Ashurst Perkins Coie podcasts at ashurstperkinscoie.com/en/podcasts/ The information provided is not intended to be a comprehensive review of all developments in law or practice, or to cover every aspect of the topics discussed. Listeners should obtain legal advice before applying it to specific issues or transactions. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  3. Mar 11

    Game Changers: Season 3 Wrap-up – The Big Themes that Shaped our Conversations

    In this special wrap-up episode, Ben McAlary joins Season 3 hosts Elena Lambros and Lorraine Johnston to reflect on the recurring themes that shaped nine thought-provoking conversations across the last 10 episodes of Game Changes.   Across sectors and geographies, one message came through clearly: ESG challenges are systemic. Whether discussing climate risk with Dariel De Sousa, sustainable investing with Rebecca Ogg, or transition planning with Pauline Martin, guests urged us to look beyond isolated issues and examine the architecture of the systems shaping finance, infrastructure and regulation.   Another powerful thread was impact over optics. Australia’s Anti-Slavery Commissioner Chris Evans reminded us that ESG is not about glossy reporting but about real-world outcomes. Similarly, Nishikant Gupta of Conrad Energy highlighted the importance of curiosity, collaboration and practical action in turning strategy into measurable change.   Collaboration and capital allocation also emerged as decisive levers. From Oliver Kade’s call for cross-sector partnerships to scale waste management solutions, to Claire Reid’s explanation of how innovative financing models can unlock community energy infrastructure, the season explored how funding structures and collective action shape results. Listen to all episodes in the Game Changers mini-series by subscribing to ESG Matters @ Ashurst on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

    Game Changers:  Season 3 Wrap-up – The Big Themes that Shaped our Conversations
  4. 12/10/2025

    Let's Yarn: Building bridges between Japan and First Nations peoples in Australia

    In this episode, Ashurst Head of First Nations Strategy Trent Wallace is joined by colleagues Natsuko Ogawa and Lea Constantine to reflect on their recent visit to Japan. As well as several productive meetings with clients in Tokyo, the trio also attended World Expo 2025 in Osaka where Trent spoke about engagement with First Nations people in Australia. Natsuko reflects on her work over the past three decades, which has helped strengthen relationships between Ashurst’s Japanese clients and Australian businesses in the mining, resources, real estate and energy sectors. Lea explains why businesses seeking to invest in Australia are increasingly focusing on First Nations engagement. And Trent recalls the respectful, polite – and very frank – conversations he enjoyed with clients in Japan. Natsuko describes the “revelation” that there are so many “clear links between First Nations and Japanese culture” and explains how progressive Japanese businesses are seeking more opportunities to connect with and employ First Nations people in Australia. Lea reflects, “One thing that dawned on me in Japan was that Australia is well known for safety, security and stability. And Japan really values those things as well.” While Trent adds: “It was a joy to recognise our similarities and find synergies.” Packed with optimism, inspiration and insight, this episode provides plenty of food for thought for business leaders in Australia and Japan alike. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Sustainability is an issue that affects us all, but how can we take steps to provoke meaningful change and make a lasting impact on environmental, social and governance issues across the globe? We explore the intersection of business value with business values for a more prosperous and sustainable future.

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