The Locked up Living Podcast: Surviving and thriving in prisons and other challenging environments

Podcasters David Jones & Dr Naomi Murphy
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  • True Crime
  • Weekly

Can institutional culture challenge your mental health? What if your job makes you feel shame, sadness, grief, disgust and fear? What if you are expected not to feel? Or you are expected to be relentlessly competitive? What it’s like to live or work in a prison? Does working with people who commit murder, child abuse and rape affect people who work in prisons and the wider criminal justice system? How do people survive and thrive when facing significant challenges to our emotional health over a lengthy period? How do we protect ourselves and stay compassionate, loving and trusting? Importantly, how do we find and preserve hope? Fyodor Dostoevsky wrote that “The degree of civilisation in a society can be judged by entering its prisons”. In this weekly podcast ,your hosts, David Jones (Forensic psychotherapist) and Dr Naomi Murphy (Consultant Clinical & Forensic Psychologist) hope that exploring less visible aspects of prisons will help listeners see that prisons are a window into society and let us see people not only at their worst but also at their best. We feature a rich range of guests sharing snap shots of life in prisons and take a look at hospitals, schools, sport and the police in order to learn from other institutions. We learn about challenges to human integrity and hear important lessons and heart-warming stories about survival and growth when facing adversity in harsh places. We hope that sharing our conversations can help you make changes to your own relationship with institutions that might challenge your emotional health and well-being. Follow and connect with us and give us feedback. Let us know what you think works, and also what doesn’t. We want you to look forward to the podcast each week. We’ll also be extremely grateful for any reviews that you give us. A simple star or two or a thumbs up will do. Email: lockedupliving@gmail.com or connect with us on: Substack: https://lockedupliving.substack.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/LockedUpLiving Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomimurphypsychologist/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-jones-41910b12/ Insta: https://www.instagram.com/lockedupliving/

  1. 2d ago

    Dr Wayne Kampers (Audio); Healing Complex PTSD With Ketamine

    Dr Wayne Kampers is a consultant psychiatrist with over 35 years of medical experience, including 25 years in integrative psychiatry. He joins David Jones and Dr Naomi Murphy to explain how he treats complex PTSD with intravenous ketamine-assisted therapy. He describes complex PTSD as a thousand-piece jigsaw puzzle thrown on the floor. No pieces are missing, but the picture is fractured. He explains why standard therapies often leave the deeper fractures untouched, and how ketamine, paired with integration work, can help people piece a connected sense of self back together. In this episode Why complex PTSD is so hard to treat, and why many patients first get other diagnoses, such as treatment-resistant depression His six-week protocol: weekly IV ketamine sessions, each followed by an integration session with the same therapist (including EMDR) What a session looks like, why the dose is increased across the six weeks, and why the therapist's role is to hold safe space The "innate intellectual healer" and why every person's journey is different Who may not be suitable, including contraindications and his approach to under-25s Mindset work, intention setting and the therapeutic relationship Recreational ketamine misuse versus medical use Attitudes among psychiatrists, off-label prescribing, and why NHS access is limited Dr Kampers's reflections on his own clinical work Key moments 0:04: The innate intellectual healer 2:01: Why complex PTSD is so difficult to treat 6:57: How the six-week treatment works 14:59: What people experience on a journey 19:28: Who is a suitable candidate 22:11: Why the therapist relationship matters 28:34: Results and clinical insights 31:15: Attitudes in the profession 38:38: Barriers to NHS access 45:22: Personal reflections Quotable "Ketamine itself softens the rigid defenses so that the integration work can begin." Please note This episode is a conversation about one clinician's approach. It is not medical advice, and Dr Kampers stresses that ketamine is not for everybody. Any treatment decision should be made with a qualified healthcare professional.

  2. 2d ago ·  Video

    Dr Wayne Kampers (Video); Healing Complex PTSD With Ketamine

    Dr Wayne Kampers is a consultant psychiatrist with over 35 years of medical experience, including 25 years in integrative psychiatry. He joins David Jones and Dr Naomi Murphy to explain how he treats complex PTSD with intravenous ketamine-assisted therapy. He describes complex PTSD as a thousand-piece jigsaw puzzle thrown on the floor. No pieces are missing, but the picture is fractured. He explains why standard therapies often leave the deeper fractures untouched, and how ketamine, paired with integration work, can help people piece a connected sense of self back together. In this episode Why complex PTSD is so hard to treat, and why many patients first get other diagnoses, such as treatment-resistant depression His six-week protocol: weekly IV ketamine sessions, each followed by an integration session with the same therapist (including EMDR) What a session looks like, why the dose is increased across the six weeks, and why the therapist's role is to hold safe space The "innate intellectual healer" and why every person's journey is different Who may not be suitable, including contraindications and his approach to under-25s Mindset work, intention setting and the therapeutic relationship Recreational ketamine misuse versus medical use Attitudes among psychiatrists, off-label prescribing, and why NHS access is limited Dr Kampers's reflections on his own clinical work Key moments 0:04: The innate intellectual healer 2:01: Why complex PTSD is so difficult to treat 6:57: How the six-week treatment works 14:59: What people experience on a journey 19:28: Who is a suitable candidate 22:11: Why the therapist relationship matters 28:34: Results and clinical insights 31:15: Attitudes in the profession 38:38: Barriers to NHS access 45:22: Personal reflections Quotable "Ketamine itself softens the rigid defenses so that the integration work can begin." Please note This episode is a conversation about one clinician's approach. It is not medical advice, and Dr Kampers stresses that ketamine is not for everybody. Any treatment decision should be made with a qualified healthcare professional.

  3. Oct 28

    Michael Guilding (Audio); The Hidden Fear System That Shuts Down Thinking and Connection

    This episode explores how fear shapes therapy, forensic work, and everyday relationships. Dr Naomi Murphy and David Jones speak with Michael Guilding about his book Fear in the Therapy Room and why understanding the biology of fear matters for therapists, managers, and anyone working in high-stress environments. Michael shares how his years in Royal Mail management and 30 years as a therapist led him to focus on fear responses, collapse, and regulation. The conversation also covers trauma-informed practice, why safety is essential for difficult conversations, and how connection helps counter threat. https://hammersmithbooks.co.uk/product/fear-in-the-therapy-room/ https://michaelguilding.com/ Key topics Michael Guilding’s path from Royal Mail management to 30 years as a therapist, including NHS leadership in primary care counselling How his work with Una McCluskey, Dorothy Heard, Brian Lake, and attachment-based systems theory shaped his understanding of fear Why fear is not just fight or flight, but also freeze, shutdown, and physical collapse How shame can be understood as part of a fear-collapse response The limits of standard regulation approaches when working with people with severe trauma Peter Levine’s influence and the importance of recognizing collapse in trauma work How fear and social engagement interact, and how safety cues can switch off threat responses Why therapy, prisons, and other institutions can become fear-driven systems What happens when organizations normalize humiliation, scapegoating, and unsafe authority Practical ways to reduce fear through support, community, kindness, and awareness of bodily signals Timestamps 00:00 - Introducing Michael Guilding and his book Fear in the Therapy Room 01:21 - What first drew Michael to fear as a clinical and personal focus 03:01 - Attachment theory, seven systems, and where fear fits 06:35 - Noticing fear in therapy and creating safer clinical spaces 08:19 - Shame, disgust, and fear across a spectrum of responses 10:09 - Why severe trauma required a broader model of fear 11:06 - The food poisoning collapse that clarified fear shutdown 13:36 - Why fear is hard to talk about in prisons and organizations 16:27 - How Michael makes therapy workshops safe enough for honesty 19:20 - Fear and social engagement as competing biological systems 21:53 - Trauma as widespread, not limited to specialist settings 23:47 - Warmth, trust, and why care can still feel threatening 28:39 - Fear in Royal Mail management and the signs of a fear-driven workplace 31:08 - The dismissal case that tested integrity and authority 34:48 - Working as a therapist in the NHS under cuts and scapegoating 39:01 - Helping non-therapists understand fear in prisons and hospitals 42:21 - Long-term health effects of chronic fear and stress 45:14 - Trauma release exercises and shaking as a reset mechanism 46:48 - When institutions are too unsafe to fix from within 48:42 - Whistleblowing, support networks, and surviving standoffs 50:33 - Managing news anxiety by staying connected and acting locally 52:14 - How Michael has looked after his own fear system over time Notable quotes "I see shame as part of a fear system." "The main thing is keep connected. Be part of a community. Don't try and deal with this by yourself." "If you can create safety, then therapists are fine to talk about fear." Action items Notice bodily signs of fear early, before they become shutdown or collapse Use safety cues, warmth, and connection to reduce threat responses In difficult workplaces, identify who can be trusted for support Stay connected to community when news and politics feel overwhelming Prioritize sleep, exercise, friendship, nature, and shared interests as ongoing regulation strategies

  4. Oct 28 ·  Video

    Michael Guilding (Video); The Hidden Fear System That Shuts Down Thinking and Connection

    This episode explores how fear shapes therapy, forensic work, and everyday relationships. Dr Naomi Murphy and David Jones speak with Michael Guilding about his book Fear in the Therapy Room and why understanding the biology of fear matters for therapists, managers, and anyone working in high-stress environments. Michael shares how his years in Royal Mail management and 30 years as a therapist led him to focus on fear responses, collapse, and regulation. The conversation also covers trauma-informed practice, why safety is essential for difficult conversations, and how connection helps counter threat. https://hammersmithbooks.co.uk/product/fear-in-the-therapy-room/ https://michaelguilding.com/ Key topics Michael Guilding’s path from Royal Mail management to 30 years as a therapist, including NHS leadership in primary care counselling How his work with Una McCluskey, Dorothy Heard, Brian Lake, and attachment-based systems theory shaped his understanding of fear Why fear is not just fight or flight, but also freeze, shutdown, and physical collapse How shame can be understood as part of a fear-collapse response The limits of standard regulation approaches when working with people with severe trauma Peter Levine’s influence and the importance of recognizing collapse in trauma work How fear and social engagement interact, and how safety cues can switch off threat responses Why therapy, prisons, and other institutions can become fear-driven systems What happens when organizations normalize humiliation, scapegoating, and unsafe authority Practical ways to reduce fear through support, community, kindness, and awareness of bodily signals Timestamps 00:00 - Introducing Michael Guilding and his book Fear in the Therapy Room 01:21 - What first drew Michael to fear as a clinical and personal focus 03:01 - Attachment theory, seven systems, and where fear fits 06:35 - Noticing fear in therapy and creating safer clinical spaces 08:19 - Shame, disgust, and fear across a spectrum of responses 10:09 - Why severe trauma required a broader model of fear 11:06 - The food poisoning collapse that clarified fear shutdown 13:36 - Why fear is hard to talk about in prisons and organizations 16:27 - How Michael makes therapy workshops safe enough for honesty 19:20 - Fear and social engagement as competing biological systems 21:53 - Trauma as widespread, not limited to specialist settings 23:47 - Warmth, trust, and why care can still feel threatening 28:39 - Fear in Royal Mail management and the signs of a fear-driven workplace 31:08 - The dismissal case that tested integrity and authority 34:48 - Working as a therapist in the NHS under cuts and scapegoating 39:01 - Helping non-therapists understand fear in prisons and hospitals 42:21 - Long-term health effects of chronic fear and stress 45:14 - Trauma release exercises and shaking as a reset mechanism 46:48 - When institutions are too unsafe to fix from within 48:42 - Whistleblowing, support networks, and surviving standoffs 50:33 - Managing news anxiety by staying connected and acting locally 52:14 - How Michael has looked after his own fear system over time Notable quotes "I see shame as part of a fear system." "The main thing is keep connected. Be part of a community. Don't try and deal with this by yourself." "If you can create safety, then therapists are fine to talk about fear." Action items Notice bodily signs of fear early, before they become shutdown or collapse Use safety cues, warmth, and connection to reduce threat responses In difficult workplaces, identify who can be trusted for support Stay connected to community when news and politics feel overwhelming Prioritize sleep, exercise, friendship, nature, and shared interests as ongoing regulation strategies

  5. Oct 21

    Jeffrey Deskovic (Audio); The 7-Hour Police Interrogation That Sent a Teen to Prison.

    This extraordinary conversation follows Jeffrey Deskovic, from his teenage years in Westchester County New York State, through his wrongful conviction, 16 years in prison, exoneration, and the long aftermath of rebuilding life on the outside. He also explains how that experience led him to found the Deskovic Foundation for Justice and to work on policy reform and exoneration cases. Dr. Naomi Murphy and David Jones guide the discussion through the legal, psychological, and personal impact of coercive interrogation, incarceration, and reintegration. Checkout the 20 minute documentary, Conviction, on Amazon Prime https://www.primevideo.com/detail/0T652A1QC6N6Y3K8WSIX2VQW2I The Deskovic Foundation https://www.deskovicfoundation.org/ Key topics Jeffrey’s childhood in Westchester County and how he felt out of place at school. The murder of his classmate Angela Correa and how Jeffrey became a suspect despite barely knowing her. The police tactics Jeffrey says led him to make a false confession as a teenager. The trial, including DNA evidence that did not match him and problems with the defense. Jeffrey’s 16 years in prison, his efforts to study law, and the friendships that helped him keep going. His exoneration through later DNA testing and the challenges of rebuilding his life after release. The ongoing stigma faced by exonerees, even after their innocence is established. How Jeffrey transformed his experience into advocacy, founded the Deskovic Foundation for Justice, became an attorney, and works to free others and prevent wrongful convictions.   Timestamps 00:00 - Introduction to Jeffrey Deskovic’s case 00:43 - Clarifying the timeline of his arrest and conviction 00:57 - Growing up in Westchester 02:33 - The case that led to Jeffrey becoming a suspect 03:29 - Why police focused on Jeffrey 04:56 - The police’s six-week manipulation strategy 05:53 - The lie detector test and isolated transport 07:18 - Hours of questioning 08:45 - The false confession 10:10 - DNA evidence and the trial 11:35 - Problems with the defense 13:03 - Polygraph testimony and missing evidence 14:30 - The conviction 15:19 - Being tried as a 17-year-old 16:27 - Life in prison 17:23 - Studying law and preparing to fight his case 18:20 - Exoneration through DNA testing 19:47 - Supporting one another in prison 21:12 - What helped Jeffrey survive 23:08 - The impact on family relationships 25:12 - The surreal experience of release 26:47 - Therapy and the challenges of reintegration 28:32 - Turning anger into advocacy 29:45 - Compensation and support after release 31:37 - The foundation and Jeffrey’s path to law 33:03 - The foundation’s mission and casework 35:00 - Stigma after exoneration 37:59 - Rebuilding relationships and finding a place in the world 41:16 - Documentaries and raising public awareness 44:23 - Self-care and finding balance 47:18 - Jeffrey’s closing message: wrongful conviction can happen to anyone

  6. Oct 21 ·  Video

    Jeffrey Deskovic (Video); The 7-Hour Police Interrogation That Sent a Teen to Prison.

    This extraordinary conversation follows Jeffrey Deskovic, from his teenage years in Westchester County New York State, through his wrongful conviction, 16 years in prison, exoneration, and the long aftermath of rebuilding life on the outside. He also explains how that experience led him to found the Deskovic Foundation for Justice and to work on policy reform and exoneration cases. Dr. Naomi Murphy and David Jones guide the discussion through the legal, psychological, and personal impact of coercive interrogation, incarceration, and reintegration. Checkout the 20 minute documentary, Conviction, on Amazon Prime https://www.primevideo.com/detail/0T652A1QC6N6Y3K8WSIX2VQW2I The Deskovic Foundation https://www.deskovicfoundation.org/ Key topics Jeffrey’s childhood in Westchester County and how he felt out of place at school. The murder of his classmate Angela Correa and how Jeffrey became a suspect despite barely knowing her. The police tactics Jeffrey says led him to make a false confession as a teenager. The trial, including DNA evidence that did not match him and problems with the defense. Jeffrey’s 16 years in prison, his efforts to study law, and the friendships that helped him keep going. His exoneration through later DNA testing and the challenges of rebuilding his life after release. The ongoing stigma faced by exonerees, even after their innocence is established. How Jeffrey transformed his experience into advocacy, founded the Deskovic Foundation for Justice, became an attorney, and works to free others and prevent wrongful convictions.   Timestamps 00:00 - Introduction to Jeffrey Deskovic’s case 00:43 - Clarifying the timeline of his arrest and conviction 00:57 - Growing up in Westchester 02:33 - The case that led to Jeffrey becoming a suspect 03:29 - Why police focused on Jeffrey 04:56 - The police’s six-week manipulation strategy 05:53 - The lie detector test and isolated transport 07:18 - Hours of questioning 08:45 - The false confession 10:10 - DNA evidence and the trial 11:35 - Problems with the defense 13:03 - Polygraph testimony and missing evidence 14:30 - The conviction 15:19 - Being tried as a 17-year-old 16:27 - Life in prison 17:23 - Studying law and preparing to fight his case 18:20 - Exoneration through DNA testing 19:47 - Supporting one another in prison 21:12 - What helped Jeffrey survive 23:08 - The impact on family relationships 25:12 - The surreal experience of release 26:47 - Therapy and the challenges of reintegration 28:32 - Turning anger into advocacy 29:45 - Compensation and support after release 31:37 - The foundation and Jeffrey’s path to law 33:03 - The foundation’s mission and casework 35:00 - Stigma after exoneration 37:59 - Rebuilding relationships and finding a place in the world 41:16 - Documentaries and raising public awareness 44:23 - Self-care and finding balance 47:18 - Jeffrey’s closing message: wrongful conviction can happen to anyone

  7. Oct 14

    Sarah Turner (Audio); The Hidden Role of Light in Brain and Gut Health

    Summary Sarah Turner is the founder and CEO of CeraThrive, a neurotechnology company that develops red light therapy systems targeting the gut-brain axis. She formerly worked as a  neuroscientist with degrees in Psychological Sciences and Nutritional Medicine, plus a postgraduate qualification in Clinical Neuroscience. www.cerathrive.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebelscientist You can get a 20% discount on the Cera system, just use the code Living20 - at checkout using this link https://www.cerathrive.com/Living In this episode, Sarah, shares insights on how light therapy, especially near-infrared light, can support brain health, inflammation reduction, and overall well-being. We explore the science behind light structuring water, the impact on neurodegenerative diseases, and practical ways to incorporate light therapy into daily life. keywordslight therapy, near-infrared, brain health, inflammation, water structuring, neurodegenerative diseases, biohacking, wellness, microbiome, circadian rhythm key topics The connection between light, water structuring, and brain health Use of near-infrared light to stimulate mitochondria and reduce inflammation Case study of a motor neurone disease patient improving with light therapy The importance of light exposure for circadian health and mental well-being Potential applications of light therapy for trauma, sleep, and stress management Challenges and ethics of commercial research in wellness technology takeaways Red and near-infrared light can penetrate the skull and reach the brain, stimulating energy production. Structured water in the body can be influenced by light, impacting cellular function. Light therapy shows promise in supporting neurodegenerative conditions, but more research is needed. Simple lifestyle changes, like increasing natural light exposure, can significantly impact health. Transparency and third-party validation are crucial for credibility in wellness tech. Sound Bites "We can structure water with light, impacting cellular function." "Shining light onto the brain increases energy and reduces inflammation." "We saw a five-point increase in the ALS score with light therapy." Chapters 00:00Introduction to Sarah and her background in neuroscience and biohacking 61:03:10Sarah discusses her transition from pharmaceuticals to light therapy research 2027:43:17The connection between environment, water structuring, and brain health 4277:43:23How light structures water and influences the brain 4999:56:45Development of a consumer-friendly device for light therapy 7138:50:13The science behind red and near-infrared light therapy 9222:10:17The impact of light therapy on inflammation and mitochondrial function 10361:03:39Case study: Light therapy for motor neurone disease 13694:23:55Results of the case study and ongoing research 19249:57:27Safety, side effects, and the body's innate response to light 21305:30:52Addressing light deficiency in modern lifestyles 27222:11:09The microbiome, environment, and mental health 29472:11:18The influence of bacteria on behavior and brain function 31833:18:01Diet, microbiome, and mental health 346666:38:09Improving quality of life through simple interventions 399722:11:46Controlling placebo effects and scientific validation 425833:18:32Light therapy for trauma, nervous system regulation, and sleep 472777:45:19The role of light in stress, environment, and marginalized populations 626388:52:54Future directions: protocols, education, and global health applications

  8. Oct 14 ·  Video

    Sarah Turner (Video); The Hidden Role of Light in Brain and Gut Health

    Summary Sarah Turner is the founder and CEO of CeraThrive, a neurotechnology company that develops red light therapy systems targeting the gut-brain axis. She formerly worked as a  neuroscientist with degrees in Psychological Sciences and Nutritional Medicine, plus a postgraduate qualification in Clinical Neuroscience. www.cerathrive.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebelscientist You can get a 20% discount on the Cera system, just use the code Living20 - at checkout using this link https://www.cerathrive.com/Living In this episode, Sarah, shares insights on how light therapy, especially near-infrared light, can support brain health, inflammation reduction, and overall well-being. We explore the science behind light structuring water, the impact on neurodegenerative diseases, and practical ways to incorporate light therapy into daily life. keywordslight therapy, near-infrared, brain health, inflammation, water structuring, neurodegenerative diseases, biohacking, wellness, microbiome, circadian rhythm key topics The connection between light, water structuring, and brain health Use of near-infrared light to stimulate mitochondria and reduce inflammation Case study of a motor neurone disease patient improving with light therapy The importance of light exposure for circadian health and mental well-being Potential applications of light therapy for trauma, sleep, and stress management Challenges and ethics of commercial research in wellness technology takeaways Red and near-infrared light can penetrate the skull and reach the brain, stimulating energy production. Structured water in the body can be influenced by light, impacting cellular function. Light therapy shows promise in supporting neurodegenerative conditions, but more research is needed. Simple lifestyle changes, like increasing natural light exposure, can significantly impact health. Transparency and third-party validation are crucial for credibility in wellness tech. Sound Bites "We can structure water with light, impacting cellular function." "Shining light onto the brain increases energy and reduces inflammation." "We saw a five-point increase in the ALS score with light therapy." Chapters 00:00Introduction to Sarah and her background in neuroscience and biohacking 61:03:10Sarah discusses her transition from pharmaceuticals to light therapy research 2027:43:17The connection between environment, water structuring, and brain health 4277:43:23How light structures water and influences the brain 4999:56:45Development of a consumer-friendly device for light therapy 7138:50:13The science behind red and near-infrared light therapy 9222:10:17The impact of light therapy on inflammation and mitochondrial function 10361:03:39Case study: Light therapy for motor neurone disease 13694:23:55Results of the case study and ongoing research 19249:57:27Safety, side effects, and the body's innate response to light 21305:30:52Addressing light deficiency in modern lifestyles 27222:11:09The microbiome, environment, and mental health 29472:11:18The influence of bacteria on behavior and brain function 31833:18:01Diet, microbiome, and mental health 346666:38:09Improving quality of life through simple interventions 399722:11:46Controlling placebo effects and scientific validation 425833:18:32Light therapy for trauma, nervous system regulation, and sleep 472777:45:19The role of light in stress, environment, and marginalized populations 626388:52:54Future directions: protocols, education, and global health applications

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Can institutional culture challenge your mental health? What if your job makes you feel shame, sadness, grief, disgust and fear? What if you are expected not to feel? Or you are expected to be relentlessly competitive? What it’s like to live or work in a prison? Does working with people who commit murder, child abuse and rape affect people who work in prisons and the wider criminal justice system? How do people survive and thrive when facing significant challenges to our emotional health over a lengthy period? How do we protect ourselves and stay compassionate, loving and trusting? Importantly, how do we find and preserve hope? Fyodor Dostoevsky wrote that “The degree of civilisation in a society can be judged by entering its prisons”. In this weekly podcast ,your hosts, David Jones (Forensic psychotherapist) and Dr Naomi Murphy (Consultant Clinical & Forensic Psychologist) hope that exploring less visible aspects of prisons will help listeners see that prisons are a window into society and let us see people not only at their worst but also at their best. We feature a rich range of guests sharing snap shots of life in prisons and take a look at hospitals, schools, sport and the police in order to learn from other institutions. We learn about challenges to human integrity and hear important lessons and heart-warming stories about survival and growth when facing adversity in harsh places. We hope that sharing our conversations can help you make changes to your own relationship with institutions that might challenge your emotional health and well-being. Follow and connect with us and give us feedback. Let us know what you think works, and also what doesn’t. We want you to look forward to the podcast each week. We’ll also be extremely grateful for any reviews that you give us. A simple star or two or a thumbs up will do. Email: lockedupliving@gmail.com or connect with us on: Substack: https://lockedupliving.substack.com Twitter: https://twitter.com/LockedUpLiving Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/naomimurphypsychologist/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-jones-41910b12/ Insta: https://www.instagram.com/lockedupliving/

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