That Tech Pod

Laura Milstein, Gabriela Schulte and Kevin Albert

Welcome to That Tech Pod, a podcast co-hosted by Laura Milstein, Gabi Schulte and Kevin Albert. Each Tuesday, That Tech Pod will feature in depth discussions about data privacy, cybersecurity, eDiscovery, and tech innovations with heavy hitters in the industry. Subscribe so you don't miss an episode! Visit thattechpod.com for more information.

  1. 3d ago

    AI Knows Everything. But Does It Know Who Can Get You in the Door? with The Swarm's Olivier Roth

    This week on the pod, we talk with Olivier Roth, Co-Founder and Chief Growth Officer of The Swarm, about what happens when AI starts mapping the human relationships behind business. Companies have mountains of relationship data sitting inside their employees, customers, investors, partners, advisors, CRMs, and inboxes. But knowing that two people have exchanged emails or worked at the same company doesn't necessarily mean one of them would actually pick up the phone. So how do you teach AI the difference between a connection and a real relationship? Olivier explains how The Swarm uses AI and relationship intelligence to help companies find the people who can actually open doors, rather than relying on LinkedIn searches, cold emails, and endless asking around. We also get into the uncomfortable questions: When does relationship intelligence become creepy? Who actually owns the relationships inside a company? And can AI really understand trust, credibility, and willingness to make an introduction? If AI can eventually understand not just what we know, but who we know and how those relationships actually work, cold outreach may start to look very different. Olivier Roth is the Co-Founder and Chief Growth Officer of The Swarm, a technology company helping businesses find smarter ways to grow through the people and connections they already have. Olivier works at the intersection of AI, relationship intelligence, and business development, helping companies uncover warm introductions, move away from cold outreach, and get more value from tools they already use, including CRMs and Clay.

  2. Sep 29

    Your Kids Are on Roblox. Here’s What You Need to Know with Roblox’s VP of Safety Product Policy, Eliza Jacobs

    On this episode we talk with Eliza Jacobs, VP of Safety Product Policy at Roblox, about what it actually takes to keep one of the world’s biggest online platforms safe for kids. Eliza takes us behind the scenes of Roblox’s approach to safety, from building safety into the product from the start to moderating millions of user-created experiences, handling reports, and dealing with the unique challenges of real-time voice chat. We also dig into the growing debate around age verification, privacy, and how platforms can protect younger users without creating an entirely new set of problems. And because Roblox is a huge part of how millions of kids spend their time online, we ask the questions parents actually want answered: What happens when a child reports someone? How does Roblox detect inappropriate interactions? What can parents realistically expect from the platform? And, most importantly, is there any secret way to get your kid some free Robux? Your kids are on Roblox so this is a conversation worth hearing. Eliza Jacobs is the VP of Safety Product Policy at Roblox, where she is responsible for our external Community Standards and the internal interpretation and enforcement of those policies. Prior to joining Roblox, she was the Head of Product Policy at Airbnb, joining in 2016 as the third member of the broader Community Policy team and helping it grow to 18 people in five offices across the globe. Eliza started her tech journey at Etsy, where she worked in a wide variety of Trust and Safety roles and learned the ropes of product, policy, and operations. She began her career as a lawyer, practicing as a securities litigator in New York before making the switch to Trust and Safety.

  3. Sep 22

    When AI Can Become an Actor, What Happens to Hollywood? with Writer, Actor & Producer Collin Pelton

    On this episode, Laura and Kevin are joined by filmmaker, actor, technologist and entrepreneur Collin Pelton, whose unconventional career has taken him from theater and acting to the U.S. Air Force, IT, Hollywood and post-production at Marvel Studios. After earning more than 33 credits across Marvel and Disney productions, Collin went on to co-found Collaborative Entity, a multimedia production company focused on film, digital content and helping creators build their businesses. We talk about AI’s growing impact on film and television and whether generative AI is really just the next step in a long line of filmmaking technologies, or something fundamentally different. We get into the questions around digital likenesses, who owns an actor’s face, voice or performance, and what happens when a digital version of an actor can be reused across movies, games and advertising. We also look at what AI could mean for Hollywood’s economics, from digital background actors and de-aging to potentially generating entire performances. And ultimately, will audiences care how much of what they’re watching was created by a human?  Collin also tells us about his directorial debut, Recession of a Hollywood Princess, a long-lost 2009 film he recovered and released in an experimental format, played entirely in reverse. It’s a pretty great example of how technology can give creators new ways to bring old ideas back to life. Collin Pelton is a filmmaker, actor, technologist and entrepreneur whose unconventional career has taken him from theater and acting to the U.S. Air Force, IT, Hollywood and post-production at Marvel Studios. During his time at Marvel, he earned more than 33 credits across films and streaming productions under the Disney umbrella, while bringing together his technical and production experience. He has also worked with actors, celebrities and showrunners on social media and fandom engagement. In 2023, Collin co-founded Collaborative Entity, a multimedia production company focused on film, digital content and helping creators build their businesses. He recently made his directorial debut with Recession of a Hollywood Princess, a long-lost film from 2009 that he recovered and released in an experimental format, played entirely in reverse. Check out CollinPelton.com.

  4. Sep 15

    AI vs. Education: Who’s Actually Learning? with Yvette Renteria

    On this episode of That Tech Pod, Kevin Albert talks with Yvette Renteria, Chief Program Officer at Common Sense Media, about how AI is changing the classroom and forcing parents, teachers and students to rethink what it actually means to learn. As kids head back to school, the question is no longer whether technology belongs in education. It’s what education should look like when AI can explain concepts, quiz students, provide feedback and even help write the answers. Kevin and Yvette dig into the growing AI arms race between students and teachers, including whether tactics designed to catch AI-assisted cheating are actually solving the problem or just creating a technological cat-and-mouse game. They also tackle a bigger question: What should students actually be required to do themselves?  The conversation goes beyond the classroom, exploring what happens when algorithms compete for kids’ attention, influence what they see and believe, and collect enormous amounts of personal data. Yvette also offers practical advice for parents trying to navigate phones, social media and AI with their kids as the new school year begins. It’s a conversation about AI, education, attention, privacy and raising kids in a world where technology is no longer something they simply “go online” to use. Yvette Renteria is the Chief Program Officer for Common Sense Media. She leads the education, research, family and community engagement teams that help our kids thrive in a digital world. Yvette brings 20 years of experience working in schools and non-profit organizations. Within her years in education, she served as Deputy Chief of Innovation on the district level, school principal and elementary school teacher. Yvette has also worked in nonprofits as a Program Director for a workforce development organization and Chief Strategy Officer for an early childhood development organization. The focus of her career has always been about access, opportunity and growth for people.

  5. Sep 8

    AI Has Changed Identity Theft. Are We Ready? with James Lee and Eva Velasquez of the Identity Theft Resource Center

    Identity theft used to require a scammer to get your information. Today, they may only need a few pieces of it. On this episode of That Tech Pod, we sit down with James Lee, President of the Identity Theft Resource Center, and Eva Velasquez, CEO of the ITRC, to look at how identity theft, scams and fraud are evolving in the age of AI. We talk about why scams are getting harder to recognize, how AI is making fraud more convincing and scalable, and how seemingly harmless activities, from social media posts to online purchases, can give criminals pieces of the puzzle they need to impersonate you. We also dig into the enormous amount of personal information exposed through data breaches and ask a bigger question: How much responsibility should really fall on individuals when so much of our data is collected and stored by businesses? James and Eva also share what they think identity theft will look like five years from now, what businesses need to rethink about authentication and security, and what they personally do differently because they assume the threat is already here. If you've ever wondered what a scammer could actually do with the information you've casually shared online, this episode is worth a listen. Learn more about the Identity Theft Resource Center and get free resources for preventing and recovering from identity crime. And check out Frozen Pii, a free resource from the ITRC that helps consumers protect themselves with credit freezes and other identity-protection tools. James Lee is the President of the Identity Theft Resource Center (ITRC) , the nation’s premier non-profit dedicated to providing free support and education to victims of identity crimes. A nationally recognized expert on data breaches, cybercrime, and fraud, James is a sought-after speaker who translates complex security topics into actionable advice for consumers and businesses alike. He frequently provides expert commentary to top media outlets and contributes to public policy discussions on privacy and security before state legislatures, regulatory agencies, and the U.S Congress. Eva Velasquez is CEO of the Identity Theft Resource Center  (ITRC) and a nationally recognized expert on identity theft, cybercrime and fraud. She spent 21 years with the San Diego District Attorney’s Office before serving as VP of Operations for the San Diego Better Business Bureau. Eva is a frequent media commentator and speaker, appearing in outlets including CBS Mornings, NBC Nightly News, CNBC, The New York Times and NPR. She has briefed federal agencies and policymakers on identity crime and privacy and serves on industry advisory boards and working groups. Eva is also a recipient of the U.S. Department of Justice National Crime Victim Service Award and is committed to helping victims, educating the public and driving meaningful change around identity crime.

  6. Aug 25

    America’s Housing Crisis Has a Data Problem. Trent Livingston Wants to Fix It.

    Trent Livingston is back on That Tech Pod. When Trent first joined the pod for Episode 3 in 2021, he was leading ESI Analyst, a pioneering SaaS company focused on data discovery for the legal industry. Today, after selling ESI Analyst, he’s tackling a very different problem: America’s housing crisis. As co-founder and CEO of ZoneLex, Trent is focused on one of the least visible but most consequential pieces of the housing puzzle: zoning law. Fragmented, constantly changing local regulations can determine what gets built, where it gets built, and whether the housing Americans need can actually get approved. We talk about Trent’s journey from legal tech to housing, why zoning is such a massive technology problem, and how his experience working with complex legal and data systems led him to this new challenge. We also dig into his philosophy around Applied AI and Small Language Models, and why bigger models aren't necessarily better for enterprise applications. From the limits of today's AI systems to the possibility that technology is beginning to outpace the laws governing it, Trent makes the case for a different approach to AI: know the land. Know the laws. And, naturally, we end with the question: after taking on zoning, housing, and some of America's most complicated regulatory data, what's the next impossible problem Trent might decide to tackle? Trent Livingston is a two-time founder who specializes in bringing macro-level technology visions to life. After founding and selling ESI Analyst, a pioneering SaaS data discovery solution in the legal tech space, Trent turned his attention to a massive new challenge: U.S. zoning law and the nation's housing crisis. His motivation to tackle this space is directly tied to his deep foundation in legal technology and his work as a testifying expert in complex data analytics. Recognizing that the "missing middle" housing shortage ultimately starts and stops with fragmented, ever-changing laws, he co-founded ZoneLex. As CEO, Trent drives the strategic vision for an enterprise platform powered by Applied AI and Small Language Models designed to decode and structure this complex legal landscape. With over two decades of experience, Trent excels at identifying massive, unaddressed bottlenecks and building market-defining B2B businesses that drive real-world impact.

  7. Aug 18

    Will AI Agents Replace the Work or Just Change Who Does It? with Consilio’s Raj Chandrasekar

    AI agents are moving from experimentation to execution, but what does that actually mean for the future of work? In this episode of That Tech Pod, Laura and Kevin sit down with Raj Chandrasekar, Chief Technology and Innovation Officer at Consilio, returning to the show after more than two years to discuss how the AI conversation has evolved from "Can we trust AI?" to "Can AI actually do the work?" Raj shares his perspective on the current state of AI agents, what separates true agentic systems from advanced chatbots, and why successful AI adoption depends as much on people and processes as it does on technology. The conversation explores the challenges organizations face as AI becomes more autonomous, including human oversight, hallucinations, AI governance, and the emerging question of whether AI agents will eventually need other AI agents to validate their work. They also revisit predictions from their previous conversation, discuss how AI is changing software development, and explore how leaders can determine when an AI agent is the right solution versus when traditional automation is the better answer. You can listen to Raj's previous episode here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/this-valentines-day-fall-in-love-with-consilio-and-ai/id1559586772?i=1000645127580 Raj Chandrasekar is Chief Technology and Innovation Officer of Consilio where he oversees Consilio’s technology and innovation functions – merging Development and Engineering, Infrastructure, Security, Product Management, Business Intelligence, and Corporate Services functions.  In his role, Raj frequently interfaces with clients to understand and accommodate processing, security and uptime needs and is also responsible for the day-to-day operations of their industry-leading eDiscovery and legal industry software solutions. Raj has over 25 years of experience in the field of Software Development and Infrastructure Management and has held technology leadership positions in various large corporations.

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Welcome to That Tech Pod, a podcast co-hosted by Laura Milstein, Gabi Schulte and Kevin Albert. Each Tuesday, That Tech Pod will feature in depth discussions about data privacy, cybersecurity, eDiscovery, and tech innovations with heavy hitters in the industry. Subscribe so you don't miss an episode! Visit thattechpod.com for more information.