9 episodes

How do artists make what they make? Join journalist and best-selling author Lizzy Goodman as she digs into the daily creative practices of some of the most compelling figures in entertainment, politics, film, literature, and art. Difficult Artist is produced by Cadence13.

Difficult Artist Cadence13 and Lizzy Goodman

    • Society & Culture
    • 4.6 • 48 Ratings

How do artists make what they make? Join journalist and best-selling author Lizzy Goodman as she digs into the daily creative practices of some of the most compelling figures in entertainment, politics, film, literature, and art. Difficult Artist is produced by Cadence13.

    Laurie Anderson

    Laurie Anderson

    Laurie Anderson is a master at making her life her art. In a conversation as unconventional as the artist herself, Lizzy and Laurie discuss everything from the geological history of the planet to death and grief to the importance of fun as a frame for how to live and work.
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    • 1 hr
    Ed O’Brien

    Ed O’Brien

    As a founding member of Radiohead, Ed O'Brien has been on the inside of one of the great rock and roll stories. He talks about growing up in the cloistered world of British boarding school life, recalling the wonder of first seeing a kid his age with a real guitar and the pain of feeling like the sensitive one in a world that equated emotional repression with strength. We get into the dizzying rise of Radiohead, the unique pleasure of being part of the "organism" that is a real band. And we talk about Ed's remarkable debut solo LP, Earth, a work eight years in the making that he released just as the pandemic booted the world out of rock clubs and relegated us all to our couches. 
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    • 1 hr 31 min
    Olivia Nuzzi

    Olivia Nuzzi

    Olivia Nuzzi is the Washington Correspondent for New York Magazine. For four-plus years it was her job to think about Donald Trump and his cohort every day. She talks to Lizzy about the emotional cost of that work, the morality of journalism in general, and explains why some of her most significant influences are stand-up comedians and rappers.
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    • 1 hr 21 min
    Liz Phair

    Liz Phair

    One of the most resonant voices in music, Liz Phair is a true iconoclast with a sense of levity about the game of fame. Liz gets into her long history being both embraced and rejected by the indie rock community, touches on motherhood and creativity, and explains that yes, there are in fact voices in her head telling her what to write. Liz's first album of new material in eleven years, Soberish, is out June 4th.
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    • 1 hr 11 min
    Shantell Martin

    Shantell Martin

    The visual artist Shantell Martin has an unusual creative process: she draws live. As in, she walks up to a blank canvas, and, in front of an audience, waits for inspiration to strike. The results are mesmerizingly detailed, joyful, playful black and white line drawings that are also strangely soothing to look at and to watch the artist make. Shantell talks to Lizzy about growing up an outsider, finding herself at Central St. Martins art college in London, and learning that leaving where you’re from is sometimes the best way of finding out where you really feel at home. 
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    • 1 hr 18 min
    Whitney Cummings

    Whitney Cummings

    Writer, director, comedian, and dog rescuer Whitney Cummings joins Lizzy to talk about how she comes up with her seemingly endless stream of red hot takes. Known for outrageous, incisive comedy exploring relationship dynamics, sexism, and the real hierarchy in Hollywood, Cummings's mind is a mile-a-minute marvel. In this episode she gets into the practices that allow her to create art out of chaos, her "love bombing" philosophy on stand-up, and the origin story behind her drive to do comedy in the first place. 
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    • 1 hr 28 min

Customer Reviews

4.6 out of 5
48 Ratings

48 Ratings

Raina!M ,

Love!

This is such a great podcast for all creative people. Lizzie is great at interviews! Love love love it.

gooja010 ,

Best podcast ever

Literally. The best podcast.

luey_bee ,

Looking forward to more ✨

Came here from Maggie’s IG post excited to hear from one of my favorite musicians, & I thoroughly enjoyed some insight on her process. I was happy to come back to another episode, this time with someone I know nothing about, and loved the questions and the thoughtful discussion. Thanks for bringing these convos to us Lizzy, excited to have a new weekly pod to tune into.

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