The ZenRUN Podcast

Michelle Frost

All things mental and physical health! You’ll find in-depth interviews with runners as we delve into why they run and what keeps them running. And interviews with specialists on the brain and the effects of exercise on it – chemically and physically. Plus tips to keep you moving with a positive mindset.. So much goodness

  1. 2d ago

    Episode 673 - ZenRUN Moment 14: Check your shoulders on hills

    Do your shoulders seem to climb the hill before the rest of you? Hills have a funny way of creating tension without us even noticing. As soon as the gradient increases, our shoulders creep towards our ears, our jaw tightens, our fists clench, and our breathing can become short and choppy. This week’s ZenRUN Moment is a simple reminder to check in with your body every time you reach a hill. As you begin a climb, take a quick mental scan. Can you drop your shoulders? Loosen your grip? Relax your face? Take one deeper breath? None of these things will make the hill disappear, but they can make the climb feel much more manageable. We often create extra effort by holding unnecessary tension, and releasing it can help you move more smoothly and efficiently. This is a great reminder for life as well as running. When things become challenging, our instinct is often to tense up and push harder. Sometimes, though, the better approach is to soften first. Relaxing doesn’t mean giving up. It means using your energy where it matters most. So next time you see a hill, don’t just prepare your legs - check in with your whole body. You still have to do the work, but you might be surprised by how much easier it feels when you climb with awareness instead of resistance. Small moments of awareness like this can completely change the way running feels. 💛 Want to feel like a runner again? If this conversation resonated, Feel Like a Runner Again will help you get back to enjoying your running. It’s packed with practical tools and guided runs to help you quiet your mind, run with less pressure, and reconnect with the runner you already are. 👉 https://www.zenrun.app/courses/feel-like-a-runner-again A couple of small favours 1️⃣ If you’re enjoying the podcast, a quick follow, like, or review helps more runners discover it. 2️⃣ Got a running story - or know someone we should chat with? I’d love to hear from you. Find me on Facebook or Instagram @ZenRUN.club or email hello@zenrun.club

  2. 4d ago

    Episode 672 - From 130kg Gamer to Backyard Ultra Enthusiast | Bart Campbell

    In this episode of the ZenRUN Podcast, I chat with the incredibly inspiring Bart Campbell. Bart grew up in the Adelaide Hills and, by his own admission, wasn’t the sporty kid. He was the chubby kid hanging out the back of the softball field, more interested in computers, movies and gaming than running. By his early twenties, he weighed around 130 kilograms, had been diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, and spent most evenings sitting at a computer while his wife brought dinner to his desk. If you’d met Bart back then, you probably wouldn’t have picked him as someone who’d go on to develop a real passion for ultra running and backyard ultras. But that’s exactly what happened. This is one of those conversations that reminds us how much a life can change through small decisions made consistently over time. Bart shares the remarkable story of his dad, a Vietnam veteran who transformed his own life after years of struggling with trauma, addiction and alcoholism. That example became one of the biggest influences on Bart’s belief that people are never stuck where they are. From there we follow Bart’s own journey as he slowly started taking better care of himself. It began with simply jogging to work, then hiking Mount Lofty, then entering a trail race… and discovering that maybe he was capable of far more than he’d ever imagined. These days Bart has completed countless ultras, developed a real passion for backyard ultras, and loves sharing what he’s learned through his running videos and daily Running Wisdom series. We also chat about: growing up in a blended family in the Adelaide Hills being diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in his early twenties losing a significant amount of weight and changing the direction of his life why tiny daily improvements matter more than massive changes his love of storytelling and creating running videos his Running Wisdom series, which he’s recorded every single day for more than two years what backyard ultras have taught him about himself why he believes everyone should find “their thing”, whether that’s running or something completely different As always, there are plenty of laughs along the way, including stories about jumping off sheds into swimming pools, accidentally meeting his future wife while chasing another girl, travelling the world, filming ultras, and why Ross Noble unexpectedly became part of one of Bart’s favourite running stories. If you’ve ever wondered whether it’s too late to change your life, Bart’s story is a wonderful reminder that your next step can take you somewhere completely unexpected. Links mentioned in this episode UltraRunning Statistics (UltraRunning Stats) Bart’s Running Wisdom videos Bart’s Tips for Runners Bart shares some beautifully simple advice throughout this conversation. Start before you feel ready. You don’t need a perfect plan. You don’t need to know where the journey ends. Sometimes all you need is the first step. He also reminds us that real change rarely happens because of one massive decision. It’s the tiny choices, repeated consistently, that completely change your life. Whether that’s jogging to work, walking up a local hill, joining parkrun or simply putting your running shoes on, those little actions eventually become something much bigger. And perhaps Bart’s biggest message is this: Find your thing. For him, it was running. For someone else it might be something entirely different. Find the activity that helps you become a better version of yourself, then keep showing up for it. Pass the Baton Bart answers Kat Cacavas’s question: “What is your most precious memory while running?” His answer might surprise you. Rather than choosing a podium finish or a major race, Bart talks about throwing up after one of his first trail races because it was the first time he’d truly discovered what he was capable of when he pushed beyond what he thought were his limits. Bart also leaves a fantastic question for my next guest… You’ll need to listen right to the end to hear what it is. Enjoy! ❤️ 💛 Want to feel like a runner again? If this conversation resonated, Feel Like a Runner Again is a simple, practical program designed to help you rediscover the joy of running. You’ll learn how to quiet the mental noise, let go of the pressure, and make running feel like your escape again, not another thing on your to-do list. 👉 Feel Like a Runner Again 🙏 A couple of big favours If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and review the podcast - it helps more runners discover these conversations. I’m always looking for runners to interview. If you (or someone you know) has a running story to share, I’d love to hear from you. Find me on Facebook or Instagram @ZenRUN.club or email hello@zenrun.club 🎧 Don’t miss an episode Subscribe to the ZenRUN Podcast in your favourite podcast app so new conversations land straight in your ears.

  3. Aug 27

    Episode 671 - ZenRUN Moment 13: Notice one beautiful thing

    How many times have you finished a run and realised you barely noticed where you were? It’s easy to spend an entire run focused on pace, distance, or the thoughts swirling around in our heads. This week’s ZenRUN Moment is a gentle reminder to look up, look around, and notice just one beautiful thing during your run. It doesn’t have to be anything extraordinary. It could be sunlight filtering through the trees, a dog happily hanging out a car window, fog rolling across a paddock, birds gliding overhead, rain glistening on the road, or the smile from another runner as you pass. These little moments are happening around us every day, yet they’re so easy to miss when we’re rushing from one kilometre to the next. One of the greatest gifts of running is that it gives us a front-row seat to the world. We get to experience changing seasons, shifting light, fresh air, and little moments of joy that people driving past may never notice. The more we train ourselves to look for these moments, the more running becomes something we experience rather than simply complete. So on your next run, don’t put pressure on yourself to notice everything. Just look for one beautiful thing. It might stay with you long after the run is over. Small moments of awareness like this can completely change the way running feels. 💛 Want to feel like a runner again? If this conversation resonated, Feel Like a Runner Again will help you get back to enjoying your running. It’s packed with practical tools and guided runs to help you quiet your mind, run with less pressure, and reconnect with the runner you already are. 👉 https://www.zenrun.app/courses/feel-like-a-runner-again A couple of small favours 1️⃣ If you’re enjoying the podcast, a quick follow, like, or review helps more runners discover it. 2️⃣ Got a running story - or know someone we should chat with? I’d love to hear from you. Find me on Facebook or Instagram @ZenRUN.club or email hello@zenrun.club

  4. Aug 24

    Episode 670 - Running Through Life’s Different Seasons with Kat Cacavas

    In this episode of the ZenRUN Podcast, I chat with the wonderful Kat Cacavas. Kat is a dietitian, health promotion officer, yoga teacher, marathon runner, charity founder, traveller and someone who has spent much of her life helping other people live healthier lives. She grew up in Melbourne in a family where movement was simply part of everyday life. Running, dancing, swimming, surf lifesaving, athletics… if there was a sport going, chances are Kat gave it a go. Although she loved running from a young age, dancing was her first love for many years. It wasn’t until her early twenties that running started taking centre stage, eventually leading her to marathons all over the world. Including one of the most extraordinary first marathons I’ve ever heard. Kat’s debut marathon wasn’t in Melbourne, Sydney or the Gold Coast. It was in Sierra Leone. That race became the beginning of something much bigger than simply running 42.2 kilometres. Over the past decade, Kat has built an incredible connection with Sierra Leone through running, eventually founding the Make Ways Foundation, which now supports young people through movement, education and opportunity. What started with taking donated running shoes in her suitcase has grown into a registered charity, three shipping containers of sporting equipment, a community sports store and employment for local people. It’s one of those stories that reminds you just how powerful running can be. We also chat about Kat’s career as a dietitian and health promotion officer, why food doesn’t have to be complicated, how clever supermarket marketing influences our choices, and why chasing the latest fad diet rarely solves the real problem. Kat also shares something deeply personal. For the past three years she and her husband have been navigating IVF. She talks honestly about how fertility treatment has repeatedly interrupted her running, the emotional impact of constantly rebuilding fitness, and how she’s learned to rediscover the joy of simply running again whenever she gets the chance. It’s a beautiful conversation about resilience, identity and remembering that running can look different in different seasons of life. Along the way we also chat about: Growing up in Melbourne and discovering a love of running and dancing. Running half marathons through Paris and Nice while travelling. Completing her first marathon in the heat and humidity of Sierra Leone. Why running holidays are one of the best ways to explore a new place. Building strength after repeated ankle injuries… including one caused by stepping on a mango! Why runners shouldn’t underestimate yoga, breathing and mobility. How running has given Kat friendship, adventure, purpose and community. The original Athens Marathon and why it’s firmly on Kat’s bucket list. Kat’s running tips Running doesn’t have to look the same in every season of life. Build your identity around more than just running. Running while travelling is one of the best ways to experience a new place. Don’t ignore your body when something doesn’t feel right. Yoga can improve strength, mobility, breathing and body awareness for runners. Sometimes the greatest running memories come from the people you meet, not the finish line. Links mentioned in this episode Make Ways Foundation: https://makewaysfoundation.org/ Make Ways Foundation documentary trailer: https://vimeo.com/1179061019/6127657463?share=copy&fl=cl&fe=ci Kat’s online yoga for runners: https://createdconnections.com.au/ Kat on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katcacavas/ Kat on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/MakeWaysFoundation/ Kat on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katherine-cacavas/ 💛 Want to feel like a runner again? If this conversation resonated, Feel Like a Runner Again is a simple, practical program designed to help you rediscover the joy of running. You’ll learn how to quiet the mental noise, let go of the pressure, and make running feel like your escape again, not another thing on your to-do list. 👉 https://www.zenrun.app/courses/feel-like-a-runner-again 🙏 A couple of big favours 1️⃣ If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and review the podcast - it helps more runners discover these conversations. 2️⃣ I’m always looking for runners to interview. If you (or someone you know) has a running story to share, I’d love to hear from you. Find me on Facebook or Instagram @ZenRUN.club or email hello@zenrun.club 🎧 Don’t miss an episode Subscribe to the ZenRUN Podcast in your favourite podcast app so new conversations land straight in your ears.

  5. Aug 19

    Episode 669 - ZenRUN Moment 12: Notice how your feet land

    Every running step begins with one simple thing - your foot meeting the ground. This week’s ZenRUN Moment is an invitation to become curious about that connection. As you head out on your next run, notice how your feet land. Are your footsteps light or heavy? Quick or flat? There’s no need to analyse or judge what you discover. Just pay attention to the conversation that’s happening between your body and the ground beneath you. As your awareness grows, you might naturally begin to soften your landing. Not by trying to run with “perfect” technique, but by allowing your body to move a little more smoothly and efficiently. Many runners find that when they focus on landing a little lighter, their stride becomes more relaxed, their movement feels more fluid, and the run becomes more enjoyable. The goal isn’t to become an elite runner overnight. It’s to become a more connected runner. Every run gives you thousands of opportunities to notice, adjust, and learn something new about how your body moves. Those small moments of awareness often lead to the biggest changes over time. On your next run, let your feet be your guide. Listen to the conversation they’re having with the earth beneath you and enjoy discovering what they have to teach you. Small moments of awareness like this can completely change the way running feels. 💛 Want your running (and your headspace) to feel a little lighter? If you enjoyed this ZenRUN Moment, you might love The Running Reset - a simple bundle of guided runs and tools designed to help you clear your mind, reset your rhythm, and fall back in love with running. 👉 https://www.zenrun.app/courses/the-running-reset A couple of small favours 1️⃣ If you’re enjoying the podcast, a quick follow, like, or review helps more runners discover it. 2️⃣ Got a running story - or know someone we should chat with? I’d love to hear from you. Find me on Facebook or Instagram @ZenRUN.club or email hello@zenrun.club

  6. Aug 17

    Episode 668 - From “You’ll Never Run Again” to 200 Miles with David Martin ⭐

    In this episode of the ZenRUN Podcast, I chat with Western Australian ultra runner David Martin. David works in IT and finance, once spent his teenage years sailing yachts to Rottnest Island, accidentally became president of AURA, owns several running phones and has a collection of boxer shorts chosen by his children for different stages of his ultra races. As you do. David grew up in Fremantle in a multicultural family, with a Polish mum and Russian/Ukrainian family heritage on his dad’s side. He describes himself as much more academic than sporty, although he always enjoyed running, even when he was near the back of the school cross-country field. His adult running journey began when a mate entered a team in the Busselton Half Ironman without actually having a team. David agreed to run the half marathon leg, downloaded a sub-two-hour training plan and finished in 1:59:40. Mission accomplished. From there came half marathons, trail races and a growing curiosity about how far he could go. But in 2020, everything changed. After taking steroids for a medical condition, David developed severe damage in his hips. A surgeon told him his left hip was unsalvageable, his right hip was at risk and he would probably need a hip replacement within 18 months. He was also told he would never run again. David fainted in the surgeon’s office. After spending several years away from running, he gradually began walking again. Walking felt too slow, so he tried running. There was no pain. He increased the distance, completed a 10km event, progressed to a half marathon and then decided to run almost every half marathon he could find in Western Australia. Naturally, this eventually led him to the Feral Pig 50km. From there, David’s running journey escalated rather quickly. He jumped from 50km to the Delirious W.E.S.T. 100 miler, then completed Cape to Cape, Feral Pig and other major ultras before stepping up to the Delirious W.E.S.T. 200 miler. David shares how he mentally approached the 200 miler by treating the first 100 miles as the journey to the start line of a race he already knew he could complete. It worked. Although there were some very dark moments, including briefly hoping a snake might bite him so he would have a legitimate reason to stop. Later in the race, when he actually encountered snakes, his attitude had changed considerably. “Don’t you dare.” We talk about the strange mental places ultra running can take you, what it feels like to spend days alone on the trail and how David deliberately clears unfinished conversations, work problems and life admin before a race. Instead of using the trail to solve problems, David tries to arrive with what he calls an “empty brain”. He focuses on the scenery, wildlife, people and experience around him. David rarely listens to anything while running because he wants to fully experience nature, although during the lowest points of Delirious he discovered that the right song could help change his mood and get him moving again. We also chat about: Why David runs with a separate phone during races His fear of spiders and the discovery of “spider baseball” The importance of respecting the trail, wildlife and other runners Why his children choose his race outfits Kermit, Bluey, SpongeBob and shark boxer shorts Accidentally leaving two left socks at an aid station Blisters, swollen feet and losing six toenails His first trip to emergency after Delirious Why his physio believes strong muscles may help protect his damaged hips His dream of finding the limits of how far he can go The Bibbulmun Track and fastest known time ideas Why race entries help give his training a clear purpose The impact ultra training has on family life The pride, fear and support that comes from David’s wife and children Why he believes runners rarely achieve these things alone The community of volunteers, medics, physios, family and fellow runners who help us reach the finish line David also shares plenty of practical lessons from his rapid rise through the ultra distances. David’s Running Tips Build gradually, even when the next challenge feels exciting David used marathons, 50km events and looped ultras to test his body, equipment and nutrition before moving into longer distances. Train on the terrain you will race on Before his first marathon, David repeatedly drove an hour each way to practise on the actual course. Use smaller events to test your systems David used a looped 50-mile event to test shoes, nutrition, Tailwind and race equipment before attempting his first 100 miler. Expect your feet to swell David loosens his shoelaces later in races and plans shoe and sock changes around how his feet respond over long distances. Strength work matters After being told he would need a hip replacement, David built strength around his hips. His physio now believes that this additional muscular support may help him avoid surgery. Deal with life before you reach the start line David tries to resolve difficult conversations, emails and unfinished problems before racing so he can stay present rather than spending hours mentally stewing over something he cannot fix from the trail. Let the event become your permission to disconnect During long races, David removes work email, uses a separate phone and allows himself to be unreachable. Respect the environment and the people around you Carry the required safety equipment, look after other runners, respect wildlife and remember that the next person along the trail may be the one who helps you in an emergency. Do not assume you have to do it alone David credits fellow runners, race volunteers, family members, medics, his physio and the broader trail community with helping him reach the start and finish lines. Carry toilet paper or wet wipes This lesson may have been learned the hard way on a beach at 3am during Delirious. David’s message is simple. Do not assume that a huge running goal is impossible. You may not know how you will reach it yet, but you can learn, build experience and find people who will help you along the way. The Ultra Stats website: https://statistik.d-u-v.org/ And make sure you stay until the end to hear David answer Kat Booth’s Pass the Baton question: “What shoes, if you had to, would you chop up to make it to the end of your race? You might have to tape them, chop them up or cut open the toe box. Which pair would you do, and what would it take for you to decide to chop them up?” You will also hear the question David has chosen for my next guest. Let’s just say the Pass the Baton questions may be developing a slightly concerning toilet theme. 💛 Want to feel like a runner again? If this conversation resonated, Feel Like a Runner Again is a simple, practical program designed to help you rediscover the joy of running. You’ll learn how to quiet the mental noise, let go of the pressure, and make running feel like your escape again, not another thing on your to-do list. 👉 https://www.zenrun.app/courses/feel-like-a-runner-again 🙏 A couple of big favours If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and review the podcast. It helps more runners discover these conversations. I’m always looking for runners to interview. If you, or someone you know, has a running story to share, I’d love to hear from you. Find me on Facebook or Instagram at @ZenRUN.club or email hello@zenrun.club 🎧 Don’t miss an episode Subscribe to the ZenRUN Podcast in your favourite podcast app so new conversations land straight in your ears.

  7. Aug 12

    Episode 667 - ZenRUN Moment 11: Listen for the quiet moments

    Running isn’t always quiet. There’s the sound of your footsteps, your breathing, passing traffic, birds, people, and, of course, the constant chatter inside your own mind. It’s easy to think a peaceful run means complete silence, but this week’s ZenRUN Moment invites you to discover something different. Today, listen for the quiet moments hidden within your run. They might only last a few seconds. The stillness after a car passes. The calm at the top of a hill. The moment the wind fades. The gentle rhythm of your breathing once you’ve settled into your stride. These little pockets of quiet are always there, we just don’t often notice them. When you begin paying attention in this way, something shifts. Your run becomes less about the noise around you and more about the spaces between it. Those brief moments of calm can help quiet a busy mind and remind you that peace doesn’t have to mean complete silence. Sometimes it’s simply about noticing what’s already there. On your next run, keep your ears open. Not just for the sounds around you, but for the quiet moments in between. You might discover they become some of your favourite parts of the run. Small moments of awareness like this can completely change the way running feels. 💛 Want to feel like a runner again? If this conversation resonated, Feel Like a Runner Again will help you get back to enjoying your running. It’s packed with practical tools and guided runs to help you quiet your mind, run with less pressure, and reconnect with the runner you already are. 👉 https://www.zenrun.app/courses/feel-like-a-runner-again A couple of small favours If you’re enjoying the podcast, a quick follow, like, or review helps more runners discover it. Got a running story, or know someone we should chat with? I’d love to hear from you. Find me on Facebook or Instagram @ZenRUN.club or email hello@zenrun.club

  8. Aug 10

    Episode 666 - How Running Helped Kat Booth Rebuild Her Life

    In this episode of the ZenRUN Podcast, I chat with the wonderfully energetic, endlessly entertaining and slightly foot-obsessed Kat Booth. If you have been anywhere near the Delirious W.E.S.T. events, you may already know Kat as the nurse who appears when your feet have stopped resembling feet. She is the calm, capable and very funny person runners trust with their blisters, wounds, mysterious swelling, chafing, exhaustion, hallucinations and occasionally very questionable toes. But there is so much more to Kat than feet. Kat grew up in Western Australia and loved running and cross-country from an early age. Sprinting was never her thing, but give her about a kilometre to warm up and she was ready to keep going. Her nursing career began with a slightly rocky start when she failed her first haematology exam and was promptly removed from nursing school. Rather than giving up, Kat went away, worked in aged care, reapplied the following year and returned determined to prove she belonged there. She worked her backside off, passed the same subject with an excellent result and went on to build a fascinating career across orthopaedics, plastics, skin grafting, wound care, education and health program management. Along the way, Kat also somehow found herself running errands through Airtasker, chasing an escaped chicken down the street, delivering hundreds of plants, building furniture, creating grazing boards inspired by trails, finding a stranger’s passport hidden inside socks and helping her mum darn a collection of expensive flamingo socks for a very grateful burly bloke. As you do. Behind Kat’s humour and huge personality is also an extraordinary story of survival. After experiencing serious violence in a relationship, Kat was left with an acquired traumatic brain injury. She had to relearn how to walk, write, speak and navigate everyday life. There is a period of around two years that she still cannot remember. Her recovery involved jumbo pencils, repeating the same songs until she could find words again, artwork, ballroom dancing, handstands, walking enormous distances and slowly learning to trust her body and brain. Running became an important part of that recovery. After experiencing panic attacks and feeling afraid to return to the community, Kat began attending parkrun and later volunteered at a Light Horse event. There, she discovered Ultra Series, trail running and a community where she felt safe. Naturally, after a major brain injury and problems with balance, Kat decided that running over rocks in the dark with a head torch sounded like an excellent idea. And remarkably, it helped. Trail running improved her balance, strength and confidence. It also reduced her parkrun time from around 33 minutes to approximately 27:30. Kat eventually stepped onto the other side of the event herself at Light Horse, where she completed an incredible 62.7 kilometres without a watch, a distance goal or even a blister. Unfortunately, a serious sesamoid injury and the return of foot-drop symptoms have now brought Kat’s running to an unexpected end. She speaks honestly about the sadness of losing something that helped her so deeply, while also finding new ways to remain part of the trails she loves. Kat is now preparing to walk the 21-kilometre event at Tarawera with friends and is determined to keep moving, exploring and contributing to the running community. We also talk about Kat’s incredible travels, including Oktoberfest, living in Whistler, meeting Kevin Costner, surfing in Bali, eating twice-daily gelato in Florence and being stalked by a cougar during her very first multi-day hike on Canada’s West Coast Trail. And, of course, we hear some classic stories from her time as a Delirious medic, including sleep-deprived hallucinations, seriously battered feet and the memorable day a nearly 70-year-old runner tried caffeine for the first time during a 200-mile race. This episode is funny, honest, moving and full of reminders that life does not always go to plan, but it can still be fascinating, adventurous and full of beautiful moments. Kat's Tips for Runners Kat encourages runners to occasionally leave the watch, pace goals and headphones behind. Take your phone for safety, but allow yourself to run without worrying about distance, speed or what the session is supposed to achieve. Listen to the birds, notice the trail and allow your body to tell you what it needs that day. It does not have to be part of a training plan. Sometimes, the best run is simply the one where you head outside, explore and have fun. Kat also reminds us to appreciate the small moments. A city view from the trail, adding a rock to a cairn, leaving a tiny surprise for another runner or even successfully cooking the perfect soft-boiled egg can all become moments worth celebrating. And if you are running a very long event, look after your feet early. Do not wait until the blister, rubbing or swelling becomes a major problem before asking for help. Pass the Baton Kat answers Sally Pymer’s question: What makes you smile the most on your runs? Her answer includes birds, beautiful city views, rock piles and tiny fruit characters secretly left beside the trail to make other people smile. Kat also leaves a very fitting question for the next ZenRUN Podcast guest. You will need to listen to the episode to hear what it is. This is a conversation about running, recovery, adventure, community, brains, feet, flamingo socks and making the most of your 4,000 weeks. Enjoy! 💛 Want to feel like a runner again? If this conversation resonated, Feel Like a Runner Again is a simple, practical program designed to help you rediscover the joy of running. You'll learn how to quiet the mental noise, let go of the pressure, and make running feel like your escape again, not another thing on your to-do list. 👉 https://www.zenrun.app/courses/feel-like-a-runner-again 🙏 A couple of big favours If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate, and review the podcast. It helps more runners discover these conversations. I'm always looking for runners to interview. If you (or someone you know) has a running story to share, I'd love to hear from you. Find me on Facebook or Instagram @ZenRUN.club or email hello@zenrun.club 🎧 Don't miss an episode Subscribe to the ZenRUN Podcast in your favourite podcast app so new conversations land straight in your ears.

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All things mental and physical health! You’ll find in-depth interviews with runners as we delve into why they run and what keeps them running. And interviews with specialists on the brain and the effects of exercise on it – chemically and physically. Plus tips to keep you moving with a positive mindset.. So much goodness

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