In this episode, Jennifer Muldowney sits down with Jill Greenbaum to explore a different approach to one of life’s hardest conversations, death, loss, and everything we struggle to put into words. Jill introduces the idea that drawing, even in its simplest form, can help people communicate what they feel when language falls short. Because here’s the truth most people overlook. Words disappear. Conversations get forgotten. But when something is placed visually in front of you, it stays. It becomes something you can return to, reflect on, and understand more clearly. You don’t need to be an artist. You don’t need to get it right. You just need a way to express what matters. And in a world where people are overwhelmed, burnt out, and often disconnected from their own emotions, something as simple as drawing might be the most honest form of communication we have. Key Topics: -Using visual storytelling to make death, grief, and loss easier to talk about-Turning simple drawings into a powerful tool for communication-Creating visual obituaries to reflect on life, legacy, and meaning-Processing grief through creativity, ritual, and personal expression-Making end-of-life conversations more accessible and easier to understand Quotes from the episode: “There is music and there is art in everyone.” — Jennifer Muldowney “What I'm teaching people to do is not about making art, which is wonderful, but it is about communication.” — Jill Greenbaum Timestamps: [01:39] From Education to Visual Storytelling: Jill shares how her background in teaching, curriculum development, and creativity led her into visual practice. [02:11] Drawing Your Thoughts, Questions, and Plans: Jill explains how simple marks can help people express what they are thinking, even when they believe they “can’t draw.” [03:16] Visualizing End of Life Issues: Jill shares how a group of women came together to use visual storytelling as a more accessible way to talk about dying, death, grief, and loss. [04:10] Creating a Visual Story of Your End of Life: Jill explains the Lifting the Lid workshop, where people used prompts to imagine where they want to be, who they want with them, and what their final wishes may look like. [07:41] It’s Not About Making Art, It’s About Communication: Jill makes a powerful point that drawing does not have to be beautiful, it just has to help people express what matters. [14:52] When Pet Loss Opens a New Path: Jill shares how losing her dog led her toward pet loss and bereavement chaplaincy work. [19:56] We Are the Artists of Our Lives: Jill reflects on how creativity is not limited to traditional art, but also shows up in the choices, rituals, and practices that help us heal. [24:42] Self-Care for People Working Around Death and Grief: Jill discusses burnout in care-based fields and why self-care cannot only fall on individuals, systems also need to become more responsive.Connect with Jill Greenbaum at:Website: www.jillgreenbaum.comEmail: jill@jillgreenbaum.comSocial media accounts: https://www.instagram.com/jillig/https://www.facebook.com/jill.greenbaumhttps://www.linkedin.com/in/jillrgreenbaum/ Connect with Jennifer/The Glam Reaper on socials at:Instagram - / jennifermuldowneyTikTok - / therealglamreaperYouTube - / @theglamreapermuldowneyLinkedIn - / jennifermuldowneyFacebook Page - / muldowneymemorialsEmail us - glamreaperpodcast@gmail.comShop Merch - https://the-glam-reaper.printify.me/Listen to The Glam Reaper Podcast on Apple Podcasts:https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...The Glam Reaper® AMAZON Storefront - https://amzn.to/4hObpOh
