On The Same Paige with Paige Leacey

Paige Leacey

Hey, I'm Paige. I'm fascinated by consciousness, perception, & subjective experience - the deep stuff. On the show, I explore big questions with scientists, philosophers, spiritual practitioners, altered-state researchers, & people with wild stories. How do we form a sense of self? What shapes our beliefs, behaviours, & biology? Why do we all experience reality differently? My mission is to make more perspectives & possibilities accessible, & help people think more deeply about their experiences. If you're a curious, open-minded, healthy skeptic who likes big ideas - you're among friends!

  1. 6d ago

    E41. My Unexpected Experience With Iboga (Full Story)

    I spent 48 hours in an iboga ceremony purging, confronting my deepest fears, and coming out the other side completely transformed. This is my full, unfiltered experience with this very unique plant medicine. In this episode, I take you through the entire journey: what iboga (Tabernanthe Iboga) actually is, its origins in the Bwiti spiritual tradition of Central Africa, and why this plant medicine operates in a category of its own — nothing like ayahuasca or psilocybin. ☕️ To support conversations like this, shout Paige a coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/paigeleacey I cover: 🩷 5 months of preparation — blood work, cardiac monitoring, meditation, lifestyle changes 🩷 Microdosing iboga for 5 weeks and the triggers that surfaced 🩷 My 8g streaming dose at home — a full night awake with no anxiety 🩷 The fear that almost stopped me: "What if iboga tells me to leave my partner?" 🩷 Reading my intention letter to Dr. Iboga before the flood dose 🩷 48 hours of relentless purging and what it taught me about surrender 🩷 The two laundry baskets vision — sorting what stays and what goes 🩷 Integration: 3 days, 3 weeks, 3 months, 3 years This is not an educational episode — it's a personal account. Every iboga journey is different, and I share mine not to influence your decision but to offer one honest window into what this initiation can look like. 🔗 Connect with Paige: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PaigeLeacey Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4sVFkvFcj3DW1wuVZuGd4U Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/on-the-same-paige IG: @samepaige__ TT: @samepaige__

    E41. My Unexpected Experience With Iboga (Full Story)
  2. Jul 6

    E40. The Terrifying Truth About What Happens Under Anesthesia

    What actually happens to your consciousness when you're put under general anesthesia — and how does a drug stop your brain from forming memories while a surgeon cuts into your body? Professor Bruce MacIver is a Stanford researcher who has spent decades studying how anesthetics work at the cellular level. His lab discovered that anesthetics disrupt learning and memory by enhancing inhibition of specific GABAergic interneurons, and his recent work on microtubules provided key experimental support for the Penrose-Hameroff theory of consciousness. Together with philosopher Tam Hunt, he just published a paper reviving the electromagnetic field theory of consciousness — the idea that your mind is a physical energy field, not just neurons firing. In this conversation, Paige and Bruce explore: 🩷 The terrifying phenomenon of anesthetic awareness — when you're paralyzed and awake during surgery 🩷 Why anesthesia doesn't replace natural sleep (and the one drug that actually can) 🩷 The full continuum of consciousness — from coma to psychedelic expansion 🩷 Whether plants have awareness and what that implies 🩷 How theta brain rhythms predict what you're going to do hundreds of milliseconds before you do it 🩷 The binding problem: why you feel like one unified self despite billions of neurons 🩷 Can you train your brain into deeper states of consciousness through biofeedback? ☕️ To support conversations like this, shout Paige a coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/paigeleacey TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 — What Happens Under Anesthesia? 0:55 — How Anesthesiologists Define Unconsciousness 3:11 — How Anesthetics Block Memory Formation 5:08 — Acupuncture as an Alternative to Drugs 6:51 — Anesthetic Awareness: Awake But Paralyzed 11:23 — Can You Die From Pain Alone? 13:49 — Sleep vs. Anesthesia: The One Drug That Restores Sleep Naturally 18:13 — The Consciousness Spectrum: Coma to Psychedelic Expansion 20:19 — Do Plants Have Consciousness? 21:32 — Microtubules and the Penrose-Hameroff Theory 24:09 — What Are Microtubules and Why They Matter 29:41 — Is Consciousness Just Neuronal Activity? 30:17 — The Electromagnetic Field Theory of Consciousness 39:00 — The Binding Problem: Why You Feel Like One Self 47:57 — Headphones, EMF Fields, and Your Brain 50:01 — Creating Thought-Like Activity in Disembodied Tissue 54:32 — Biofeedback: Training Your Brain for Deeper Consciousness 57:12 — Closing Thoughts 📍 Watch more of Bruce's work — search "MacIver Anesthesia and Consciousness" on YouTube 🔗 Connect with Paige: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PaigeLeacey Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4sVFkvFcj3DW1wuVZuGd4U Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/on-the-same-paige-with-paige-leacey/id1573526370 Newsletter: https://paigeleacey.substack.com Instagram: @samepaige__ TikTok: @samepaige__

    E40. The Terrifying Truth About What Happens Under Anesthesia
  3. Jun 30

    E39. What's It Like To Be Injected With DMT For 40 Minutes Straight?

    What happens when you're injected with DMT for 40 minutes straight... on four separate occasions? Alexander Beiner was one of nine participants in the Imperial College of London's DMTx extended state trial — a protocol designed to push a human being to the peak of a psychedelic experience and hold them there. This is not a clinical breakdown. It's a first-person account of what happens at the edges of human experience, and what you bring back. We explore: 🩷 What the DMTx protocol actually feels like — from waking consciousness to peak in under 3 seconds 🩷 Why "surrender" might be the wrong word — and what polyvagal theory, curiosity hacking, and cognitive flexibility teach us about navigating altered states instead 🩷 The nature of consciousness — panpsychism, Bernardo Kastrup, and why the DMT realm challenges materialist assumptions 🩷 Entities, fairy lore, and UFO abduction — are they the same phenomenon wearing different cultural masks? 🩷 How ideas actually emerge — the neuroscience of creativity and why good writing demands good research 🩷 AI, the legitimation crisis, and why the internet is running out of reality To support conversations like this, shout Paige a coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/paigeleacey 🔗 Connect with Paige: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PaigeLeacey Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4sVFkvFcj3DW1wuVZuGd4U Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/on-the-same-paige-with-paige-leacey/id1573526370 Newsletter: https://paigeleacey.substack.com Instagram: @samepaige__ TikTok: @samepaige__ 🔗 Connect with Alexander Beiner: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alexander_beiner Substack: https://beiner.substack.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@StudioKainos Website: https://www.studiokainos.com/

    E39. What's It Like To Be Injected With DMT For 40 Minutes Straight?
  4. Jun 26

    E38. Chris Walker Had Absolutely Everything. Why Did He Still Feel So Unfulfilled?

    The version of you that created your problems can't come with you to solve them. Chris Walker had a multi-million dollar business, a growing personal brand (hundreds of thousands of followers across platforms), and speaking gigs at Google — and he was an anxious wreck. He thought $10M would fix it. It didn't. But he managed to transform his entire life and upgrade what he calls his "frequency" with one simple yet powerful practice. In this conversation, Paige pushes back on Chris's claims with genuine skepticism: Is this just manifestation in different clothing? Can you actually reprogram beliefs you can't consciously access? And if everyone is capable of the transformation Chris describes, why do so few people achieve it? TOPICS: - Why earning more money doesn't reduce anxiety (and what actually does) - The 90-day journaling system that rewired Chris's neural pathways - Emotional sovereignty — eliminating cognitively-driven negative emotions - How nervous system capacity expansion leads to clairvoyant visions - Why handwriting outperforms typing for neuroplasticity - The "beauty contract" — how inherited definitions of attractiveness drive suffering - Identity-based subconscious programs and why busy founders can't slow down - Chris's vision of the synthetic vs organic human split - What Chris changed his mind about after 10 years of this work TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 — Chris's origin story: anxiety, $3M revenue, and the journaling that changed everything 4:50 — Paige's skepticism: "This feels too good to be true" 5:37 — The fitness analogy: training neural pathways like training your body 7:36 — Is this just manifestation in different clothing? 13:07 — Why busy founders can't slow down: identity and the productivity contract 19:00 — It's not technology's fault — it's your relationship to it 20:42 — The Freudian challenge: how do you reprogram what you can't access? 24:07 — Why handwriting activates neuroplasticity (the neuroscience) 26:00 — The compounding effect: 4 structural brain changes per year 28:40 — The beauty contract: redefining attractiveness on your own terms 32:14 — How the pivot was received: "Chris, you sound crazy" 35:00 — Clairvoyance explained: nervous system capacity and the prefrontal cortex 39:58 — Chris's visions: the synthetic vs organic human split 46:13 — What Chris changed his mind about: "I was told what to believe" 🔗 Chris Walker: Podcast: We Are Encoded (Apple, Spotify) LinkedIn: Chris Walker Encoded AI: encoded.ai 📌To support conversations like this, buy Paige a coffee: https://buymeacoffee.com/paigeleacey 🔗 Connect with Paige: YouTube: / @paigeleacey Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4sVFkvF... Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast... Newsletter: https://paigeleacey.substack.com Instagram: @samepaige__ TikTok: @samepaige__

    E38. Chris Walker Had Absolutely Everything. Why Did He Still Feel So Unfulfilled?
  5. Jun 15

    E37. Is Your Level Of Self-Awareness Actually Holding You Back?

    Everyone in the personal development world is chasing more self-awareness. But what if you've already got it — and that's not actually the problem? Paige makes the case that your body is running a 24/7 awareness system you never had to build. The hard part isn't becoming more aware. The hard part is being honest about what you already know you feel. In this episode: the gap between sensing something and saying it out loud, why "I don't know" is the most underrated tool in psychology, and why slowing down isn't a mindset shift — it's an act of rebellion. TIMESTAMPS: 0:00 — The self-awareness trap: why "knowing more" doesn't fix it 1:41 — Your system is already doing the work 2:51 — The real problem: honesty, not awareness 4:47 — When you know exactly what's wrong but can't say it 6:01 — The Gap Theory: the space between stimulus and response 7:26 — Why slowing down is an act of rebellion in 2026 9:07 — The language of body sensations (and when it doesn't help) 9:48 — "I don't know" — the most underrated tool in all of psychology 11:30 — What you actually need instead of more self-awareness 🔗 Connect with Paige: YouTube:⁠https://www.youtube.com/@PaigeLeacey⁠ Spotify:⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/4sVFkvFcj3DW1wuVZuGd4U⁠ Apple Podcasts:⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/on-the-same-paige-with-paige-leacey/id1573526370⁠ Newsletter:⁠https://paigeleacey.substack.com⁠ Instagram: @samepaige__ TikTok: @deepbeauty__

    E37. Is Your Level Of Self-Awareness Actually Holding You Back?
  6. May 25

    E35. Neuroplasticity: How Far Can the Human Brain Go? | Prof. Greg Downey

    Most people think the nature vs. nurture debate is a question of which side wins. Professor Greg Downey says that's exactly the wrong question — and that framing it as a competition is what's been holding back our understanding of human potential for decades. In this conversation, Paige sits down with Prof. Greg Downey — neuroanthropologist, professor at Macquarie University, and co-founder of the field of neuroanthropology — to explore how your nervous system is in a constant state of retooling based on the environment you're in, the skills you practice, and the culture you inhabit. What you'll discover in this episode: 🩷 Why separating nature and nurture is a category error — and what to ask instead 🩷 How culture literally trains your senses to perceive things others can't 🩷 Why your "self" and consciousness are skills — not fixed traits 🩷 The neuroscience behind extraordinary human abilities (echolocation, free diving, and more) 🩷 The single most effective way to learn any new physical or cognitive skill CHAPTERS 00:00 — What is neuroanthropology? 01:43 — Why the nature vs. nurture debate is wrong 03:42 — How culture trains your senses 06:10 — What "culture" actually means 10:06 — How language shapes what you can perceive 13:08 — Neuroplasticity: how the brain rewires for skill 18:09 — Is consciousness a skill? 22:35 — Daniel Kish: the man who sees with sound 25:01 — Free divers and the outer limits of human physiology 30:02 — How to study real human potential 37:44 — Cage fighters, capoeira & exploring consciousness 41:44 — The "consciousness platter" metaphor 51:34 — Psychedelics, context & cultural transplanting 56:46 — The fastest way to learn any new skill 59:49 — What fieldwork in Brazil taught Greg about himself ABOUT PROF. GREG DOWNEY Greg Downey is a professor of anthropology at Macquarie University (Sydney) and co-founder of the neuroanthropology field. His work bridges neuroscience and cultural anthropology to understand how human development is shaped by the environments, practices, and communities we inhabit. Research profile: https://researchers.mq.edu.au/en/persons/greg-downey/ Wesbite: https://neuroanthropology.net/ 🔗 Connect with Paige: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PaigeLeacey Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4sVFkvFcj3DW1wuVZuGd4U Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/on-the-same-paige-with-paige-leacey/id1573526370 Newsletter: https://paigeleacey.substack.com Instagram: @samepaige__ TikTok: @samepaige__

    E35. Neuroplasticity: How Far Can the Human Brain Go? | Prof. Greg Downey
  7. May 19

    E34. Is Psilocybin Just A More Intelligent You? | James W. Jesso

    What does it mean to have a relationship with a psychedelic substance and why does that framing matter more than any protocol, ceremony, or clinical trial? In this conversation, Paige sits down with author, educator, and psilocybin advocate James W. Jesso to explore the philosophical, ethical, and psychological dimensions of working with psychedelics responsibly. This isn't about biohacking with microdoses or chasing ego-death status. It's about taking the intelligence of these substances seriously - and understanding what's at stake when you don't. What we cover: 🩷 Why viewing psilocybin as a relationship changes everything about safety 🩷 The difference between internal and external safe containers and why most people skip the harder one 🩷 How psychedelics can surface deep trauma and how to avoid re-traumatization 🩷 Why your guide's personal experience matters more than their credentials 🩷 The heroic dosing trend and the real harm James sees it causing 🩷 How mainstream media is distorting psychedelic culture and expectations ⏱️ CHAPTERS 00:00 — Introduction 02:40 — Psychedelics as a Relationship 07:40 — Internal vs External Safety 10:30 — Trauma & Psychedelic-Assisted Healing 11:30 — Why Your Sitter's Experience Is Non-Negotiable 28:35 — The Heroic Dose Myth 🔗 James W. Jesso: https://www.youtube.com/@AdventuresThroughTheMind James' Books: https://www.jameswjesso.com/category/books/ More Links: https://linktr.ee/jameswjesso 🔗 Connect with Paige: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PaigeLeacey Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4sVFkvFcj3DW1wuVZuGd4U Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/on-the-same-paige-with-paige-leacey/id1573526370 Newsletter: https://paigeleacey.substack.com Instagram: @samepaige__ TikTok: @samepaige__

    E34. Is Psilocybin Just A More Intelligent You? | James W. Jesso

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Hey, I'm Paige. I'm fascinated by consciousness, perception, & subjective experience - the deep stuff. On the show, I explore big questions with scientists, philosophers, spiritual practitioners, altered-state researchers, & people with wild stories. How do we form a sense of self? What shapes our beliefs, behaviours, & biology? Why do we all experience reality differently? My mission is to make more perspectives & possibilities accessible, & help people think more deeply about their experiences. If you're a curious, open-minded, healthy skeptic who likes big ideas - you're among friends!

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