Table of ContentsListen to the Episode Meet RaphieEpisode Transcript Listen to the Episode In this episode, I chat with Raphie Wagner, a podcast coach and expert, about how creating a podcast to attract and connect with your community can be a great marketing strategy for any online business.We talk about what you need to know to get started, what to avoid on your podcasting journey, and how you can streamline your marketing strategy by creating multiple pieces of content for several platforms from just one podcast episode! Meet Raphie Check out the next episode in the series: Boost Your Business With a Podcast – Part 2 Episode Transcript Welcome, everyone. We are here with Raffi Wagner, and she is a podcast coach. We are going to talk all about podcasting and how this could be an amazing tool for your business. Welcome, Raffi. Thank you. Hi, thanks for having me. I’m looking forward to it. So, let’s just dive right in. And I want to talk about, because to me, you are like my go-to podcast person. I, you know, I have my own podcast, clearly. I have a couple podcasts, and you have been an amazing resource for me. So, I want to know how you got into podcasting and how you became basically this podcast guru. Absolutely. My adventure started in 2018 when I realized that there was a such thing called podcast movement, the big conference where, you know, podcasters from worldwide come and hang out, and there’s a conference and a lot of different things. And when I first saw that, that’s when I was like, okay, I have to explore podcasting. I probably didn’t even really listen to too many podcasts to mid-2018. And then that just ramped up as soon as I realized that there was such a thing. So, I was a podcast listener first. Then I created a podcast in 2019, and I went to podcast movement, though, in 2019. And it wasn’t until after that that I launched my podcast. That the energy from all the podcasters there kind of just put me in action mode. So, I came back and I launched my first podcast. What was it called? I got to jump in. What was it called? Tell me about your first one. My first one was just Not a Mama. So, it’s for child-free. At that time, it was for child-free women. So, it was Not a Mama, and it was for child-free women. And that was my first lesson of how to handle when things don’t go right. Because that podcast was completely lost during a transition and migrating from one host to another. Oh, no. So, you lost all your stuff? Completely lost everything. Oh, I hate that. That was a lesson of backing up audio. That was a lesson of really understanding how to do the migration, really understanding how to pick a host, and understanding the Apple connection. So, for me, that was my first lesson of, okay, troubleshoot this, figure this out, and move forward. At that time, though, during that 2019, I also kind of started really connecting with a lot of leaders in the industry. And as I do with everything in my business and everything that I do about business, I tend not to go to the big, big, big names. I tend to kind of start to seek the middles, I call them. And in doing that, I became very close friends and created a business-mentor relationship with quite a few women. And those women, we’ll talk about it, I’m sure, but those women have then created roles for me. So, it was a complete blessing. But those relationships started in 2019. So, you started by creating your own podcast and then creating a network. So, really getting into that, tapping into that community and building the network, okay. And tapping into relationships. I know we hear this a lot. But there is so much power in building relationships and nurturing relationships and not just all social media and all, you know, jump on a call with someone and just have a, you know, a chat. That kind of thing. There is so much beauty and so many gifts in building true relationships. Got it. So, and you didn’t go to it with a, what can you do for me? It’s how can I get into this world of podcasting, which seems to be like, kind of like an up and coming thing and it’s really getting big. And do you know how many podcasts there are right now? Like, I can tell you the latest statistics that I heard, which I think were in March, were, when you look at the statistic, you have to keep in mind, what you see is active and what’s out there are two different things. Gotcha. So active podcast, I believe is under 900,000 and active meaning they published an episode within the last 90 days. Okay. But if you look at podcast as a whole, how many that are out there, I believe it’s like 2.3 million. So that’s a, that’s a huge contrast. And I’m sure we’ll talk about this too. There’s so many reasons that people start and never finish or start in just what we call pod fade. Oh, yeah, we’re going to talk about, we’re going to talk about pod fade. Yep. There’s always a discrepancy with what’s active and what’s actually listed in these players. Okay. So you got in kind of like, so not like three or two or two to three years ago and you really just started like getting into the network, building relationships and getting into that community and being part of it. Correct. So take me into now what you’re doing and how we’re using this expertise to help others start their podcasts. So how I’m using my expertise, my expertise has come from a lot of self-learning, self-teaching, and a lot of skills and connections through all of my mentors in the space. And what has happened now is I work for two women that have been my mentors for quite some time and I work with them now in addition to my own business because they created positions and opportunities for me. So the two positions I hold are positions that were created for me. They didn’t exist until they came in contact with me and we started talking. One of my connections actually became was started on Instagram and then she reached out to me and says, I see what you’re doing. Let’s jump on a Zoom and that’s how it all started. So now fast forward to today where I am a podcast coach and I am also a program manager for a certified podcasting coaching program that is rolling out at the end of 2021. Okay, so what you’re saying is that you be based on your network and your relationships and because you were visible, so they saw the value that you were adding in terms of helping people set up podcasts and running podcasts and they reached out to you and they wanted to bring you in so that you could lend your expertise to their organizations, to their businesses because you were adding so much value. Exactly. And one of the things, it’s kind of current, so I guess it’s good to talk about. One of the positions I hold right now, I was in a clubhouse room and they were doing like little hot seats for podcasters and I went up on a hot seat. They gave me feedback on my current podcast, which is called Not a Mama Life and it’s for child free humans. So that was the new version of the podcast that was lost and she gave me feedback and it was Tracy Hazard of the Binge Factor and she gave me feedback and then I revisited another clubhouse room that they were doing and she noticed and checked on my podcast and noticed that I made the changes. She right then and there invited me to be on that podcast. After that podcast recording, we stopped recording on Zoom and she said, I have to work with you. So that’s how one of the positions was kind of, and we created something because she didn’t really have something. She had a few projects in mind. So we shortly after that episode aired, we jumped on a Zoom and she kind of went over the few positions that were potentials because they were projects they wanted to work on. And then she said her opinion of what she thought and I agreed with her that the best fit would be helping create this certified coaching program, podcast certified coach. So can I ask what is a certified podcast coach? What does that entail? So that’s kind of where we’re going with this program. We are doing this to kind of distinguish the coaches that have the skills specifically for podcasting. Right now, there are a lot of life coaches, a lot of different coaches in different fields that have now turned into podcast coach. And so our program is going to really provide a full scope type of education and we are going to be very different than what’s out there right now. So what I’m finding, and I’ve been in the online business space for a minute or two, what I’ve noticed is that you have a lot of individuals, coaches who create their own, they create their own business and they find a strategy that has worked for them and they get to a certain point and then they pivot and they say, okay, now instead of being B2C, I’m going to be B2B and I’m going to show people, I’m going to show them how to replicate my success by following the map that I, following all the steps that I used to do this. So maybe they’re not experts in actual business strategy but they know what worked for them and that’s a little bit dangerous because it’s anecdotal, right? Like that experience and that success is anecdotal at best. Maybe they’ve tried a few different things but just because it worked for them does not necessarily mean it is something that can be replicated. And it’s good if they can kind of show, if they understand why it was successful, that’s helpful. But I’m kind of one of those, I want to go straight to somebody who understands, who has the expertise of the strategy, not necessarily somebody who was successful following their own map and they managed to hit six figures, seven figures doing something, but they understand that there’s all of the techni