Sales Talk for CEOs

Alice Heiman

Welcome to Sales Talk for CEOs, where host Alice Heiman goes deep with female founders and experts on the real story behind building a company and a life at the same time. After 5+ years and 190+ episodes, the show has pivoted to focus exclusively on female founders/CEOs and their journeys on both the business and personal sides. In each episode, Alice explores not just what it took to build and grow a sales organization, but the full picture: getting funded, managing health and family, and driving revenue all at once. This is the founder story most podcasts don't tell.

  1. 2d ago

    Building Without a Plan B: Tamar Gill on Bootstrapping, Better Data, and People-First Growth

    Building a company without outside funding requires more than a great idea. It requires resilience, focus, and knowing exactly what you refuse to compromise. In this episode of Sales Talk for CEOs, Alice Heiman sits down with Tamar Gill, Founder and CEO of eCore Services, to explore her journey from practicing law in the Republic of Georgia to building a 150-person, fully remote B2B data company. Tamar shares how becoming a mother reshaped her career, why an unexpected remote job introduced her to the world of data, and how she eventually took the leap into entrepreneurship during COVID. Rather than pursue venture capital, Tamar chose to bootstrap eCore, protecting the people-first values at the heart of the company while learning how to grow through referrals, delegation, and disciplined financial decisions. The conversation also explores a growing challenge for sales and go-to-market leaders: bad CRM data. Tamar explains why organizations need reliable data before layering AI and automation on top of their systems - and how poor data can quietly drain sales productivity. Tamar explains: ◼️ How she rebuilt her career after moving from the Republic of Georgia to the US ◼️ Why remote work became the foundation for the company she would eventually build ◼️ How she landed her first client and grew through relationships and referrals ◼️ Why she chose to bootstrap eCore instead of pursuing outside funding ◼️ How she built a fully remote team of 150 people while keeping people at the center ◼️ Why founders need to learn how to delegate instead of trying to do everything themselves ◼️ Why unreliable CRM data creates hidden problems for sales teams ◼️ What CEOs need to understand before adding AI and automation to their go-to-market strategy ◼️ Why Tamar believes committing fully - and leaving no Plan  - is critical when building a company Connect with: Tamar Gill:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamargill/ Website: https://ecoreservice.com/ Alice Heiman:  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aliceheiman/ Website: https://aliceheiman.com/

    Building Without a Plan B: Tamar Gill on Bootstrapping, Better Data, and People-First Growth
  2. Sep 2

    Why the Best Leaders Slow Down: Elatia Abate on Reinvention, Presence, and the Future of Leadership

    Leading through uncertainty doesn't require moving faster, it requires thinking differently. In this episode, futurist and leadership strategist Elatia Abate shares practical frameworks to help female founder CEOs lead through rapid change without defaulting to outdated strategies. She explains why slowing down can become a competitive advantage, how to shift from past-anchored planning to future-led thinking, and why the quality of the questions leaders ask ultimately shapes the future they create. Drawing from nearly a decade of research into the future of work and leadership, Elatia offers a new perspective on strategy, decision-making, AI adoption, and embodied leadership, helping founders build businesses that are resilient, intentional, and prepared for what's next. Elatia explains: ◼️ Why leaving corporate leadership led her to an entirely different purpose ◼️ How one conference in 2016 changed the direction of her career ◼️ Why today's leaders need to slow down instead of constantly accelerating ◼️ The Think, Do, Be framework and how it changes decision-making ◼️ Why future-led thinking begins by asking different questions ◼️ How women leaders can create space for presence instead of constant busyness ◼️ What leaders should understand before introducing AI into their organizations ◼️ Why she believes the future belongs to leaders who trust themselves

    Why the Best Leaders Slow Down: Elatia Abate on Reinvention, Presence, and the Future of Leadership
  3. Aug 26

    From Retail Shelves to Every Bathroom Stall: How Denielle Finkelstein and Thyme Sullivan Pivoted a Period Product Startup

    Denielle Finkelstein and Thyme Sullivan are Co-Founders and Co-CEOs of Unicorn in Every Stall. Before becoming entrepreneurs, Denielle spent more than 20 years in fashion leadership, including executive roles at Ann Taylor, Coach, Kate Spade, and Talbots, while Thyme built a 27-year career at Coca-Cola, Pepsi, and Nestlé. Both were the primary breadwinners for their families when they made the decision to leave corporate life and pursue something entirely new. Their journey began with a Facebook message between two cousins who hadn't seen each other in more than 30 years. What started as a conversation about cleaner period products quickly became a shared mission to build a company together. Although their backgrounds were different, they discovered their skills complemented one another, and within weeks they were working side by side. Throughout the conversation, Denielle and Thyme reflect on what it really means to become a founder later in life. They discuss walking away from successful careers, building a business while raising children, leaning on supportive spouses, and creating a company that reflected the life they wanted to live rather than repeating the burnout they had experienced in corporate leadership. They explain why they committed to putting themselves first, their families second, and the business third—and how that promise helped sustain them through the inevitable highs and lows of startup life. The episode also explores the difficult decisions that shaped their company. They share how listening closely to customers led them to rethink their original business model, why they chose to leave retail behind despite having momentum, and how they navigated fundraising while preserving the flexibility to build the company on their own terms. Rather than chasing certainty, they learned to trust their instincts, embrace change, and give themselves permission to make mistakes along the way. More than anything, this is a conversation about the founder journey. Denielle and Thyme offer an honest look at entrepreneurship as a second chapter—one built on courage, partnership, patience, and the willingness to keep moving forward even when the path isn't obvious. Denielle and Thyme explain: ◼ Why they left successful corporate careers to become founders later in life ◼ How reconnecting after more than 30 years led to an unexpected co-founder partnership ◼ What they learned about building a company while raising families and supporting one another through startup life ◼ Why they believe taking care of yourself first, your family second, and your business third creates a stronger foundation for leadership ◼ How listening to customers gave them the confidence to completely rethink their business ◼ What fundraising taught them about resilience, patience, and finding the right partners ◼ Why having a trusted co-founder helped them navigate uncertainty and make difficult decisions ◼ Their advice for founders on embracing risk, building a strong network, and trusting the journey over the destination

    From Retail Shelves to Every Bathroom Stall: How Denielle Finkelstein and Thyme Sullivan Pivoted a Period Product Startup
  4. Aug 12

    A Better Way to Sell: Becc Holland on Conviction, Curiosity, and Leading With Care

    Most sales organizations are training sellers to do the wrong job. In this episode, sales expert Becc Holland joins Alice Heiman to challenge some of the biggest assumptions in modern selling, from what qualifies as a lead to why buyers ignore outreach and what CEOs can do to build sales teams buyers actually want to talk to. Becc argues that today's buyers are not looking for another product pitch. They are looking for expertise. She explains why sellers should spend less time mastering objection handling and more time understanding the people they serve, why CEOs should prioritize buyer knowledge throughout onboarding, and how helping buyers uncover problems they do not yet recognize creates stronger conversations and better outcomes for everyone involved. Together, Alice and Becc explore what it means to make sales easier by replacing pressure with curiosity, focusing on diagnosis instead of persuasion, and equipping sellers to create value before they ever talk about a product. Becc explains: ◼️ Why CEOs should teach sellers to understand buyers before teaching products ◼️ How learning a buyer's world becomes an act of care ◼️ Why diagnosing problems creates better outcomes than pitching solutions ◼️ What founders can do to build sales cultures rooted in curiosity instead of pressure ◼️ Why buyers are looking for expertise rather than another sales pitch ◼️ How helping people make better decisions creates stronger businesses for everyone

    A Better Way to Sell: Becc Holland on Conviction, Curiosity, and Leading With Care
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Welcome to Sales Talk for CEOs, where host Alice Heiman goes deep with female founders and experts on the real story behind building a company and a life at the same time. After 5+ years and 190+ episodes, the show has pivoted to focus exclusively on female founders/CEOs and their journeys on both the business and personal sides. In each episode, Alice explores not just what it took to build and grow a sales organization, but the full picture: getting funded, managing health and family, and driving revenue all at once. This is the founder story most podcasts don't tell.