Wild About Kinder

Sarah Lister

This is Wild About Kinder, the podcast for anyone curious about Kinder Scout in the Peak District. Each episode will bring you interviews with people who appreciate the Kinder Scout landscape. I will ask guests about why they love it here, what makes it special and unique to them, and how their personal experiences relate to a sense of connection. My aims are to create an accessible resource for people to listen to stories, to learn about important issues in a relatable and engaging way, and to bring together a feeling of community. There will be unique questions for each guest, but every person interviewed will be asked: "What makes you wild about Kinder Scout?" This will provide a nice collection of different responses throughout the making of the show. Alec Boyd and Gabby Wolstenholme from The Northern Project worked with me on series 1 of this podcast, which was supported by the Peak District National Park Communities Small Grants Scheme. The show is available to listen to completely free, anywhere that you can find podcasts. You can also download each episode as an MP3.

  1. Jul 4

    How Do I Get to the Countryside? | Sarah Calcutt, Creator of Heath & Mud

    What happens when you step off a train at Edale and ask, "How do I get to the countryside?" For writer, artist and creator of Heath & Mud, Sarah Calcutt, that simple question led to a lifelong relationship with Kinder Scout, the Peak District and a whole new creative life. In this episode of Wild About Kinder, Sarah shares how a chance visit to Kinder Scout sparked a deep love of walking, folklore, history, storytelling and printmaking. We talk about the joy of exploring hidden corners of the plateau, why she's drawn to mysterious places like the Aztec Rock, and how one lino-cut kit discovered in a drawer eventually became Heath & Mud - a community zine that has already raised thousands of pounds for Peak District causes. This conversation wanders through moorland paths, place names, ancient stories, creativity and belonging, revealing why Kinder Scout continues to offer something new every single time she returns. In this episode Sarah's unforgettable first visit to Kinder Scout after arriving by train in Edale.Why the Aztec Rock is her favourite on Kinder.Stepping off the paths and into the wild heart of the Kinder plateau.Why accessible paths can help more people fall in love with the People's Hill.The surprising ways Kinder Scout led Sarah into folklore, history, art and storytelling.The story behind Heath & Mud and how a homemade zine became a thriving creative community.Why Sarah believes in "just having a go."The hidden stories behind Peak District place names.How Kinder continues to surprise her, even after years of exploring. A favourite quote "Kinder Scout offered me something that I didn't even really know I was looking for." Mentioned in this episode Haddon Hall https://www.haddonhall.co.uk/Edale Mountain Rescue Team – the volunteer rescue team supporting walkers across the Peak District, and one of the first charities to benefit from donations from Heath & Mud.https://edalemrt.co.uk/Landscape Trees – a charity restoring native trees and woodland across the White Peak, supported through sales of the White Peak edition of Heath & Mud.https://landscapetrees.org/Weird Walk – the beautifully produced walking zine celebrating folklore, history and curious landscapes that helped inspire Sarah's own publishing journey.https://www.weirdwalk.co.uk/The South Yorkshire Moors by Christopher Goddard – an excellent guide to the landscapes, history and folklore of the eastern Dark Peak, including the stories behind Win Hill and Lose Hill.https://christophergoddard.net/product/the-south-yorkshire-moors/ About Sarah Calcutt Sarah is the creator and editor of Heath & Mud, an independent Peak District zine celebrating walking, landscape, folklore, history and creativity. Through writing, linocut printmaking and collaboration with artists, photographers and writers, Heath & Mud has become a growing community project that has donated thousands of pounds back to Peak District conservation and community organisations. Links Heath and Mud: https://heathandmud.bigcartel.com/ Follow Sarah on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heath.and.mud/ Enjoyed this episode? If you enjoyed this conversation, please consider following Wild About Kinder, leaving a review, or sharing the episode with someone who loves Kinder Scout and the Peak District as much as you do. Every share helps more people discover the stories, history and wild beauty of Kinder Scout. Send in your own Kinder Scout stories on the Wild About Kinder website and contact the show host to send in your comments, questions and suggestions. Subscribe to the Wild About Kinder newsletter and send in your contributions. Share your favourite episodes by tagging @about.the.adventure on Instagram and use the hashtag #WildAboutKinder. Thank you! Recording date This interview was recorded on Kinder Scout, 14th May 2026. Host & Production By Sarah Lister, About The Adventure Contact the host You can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments.

    How Do I Get to the Countryside? | Sarah Calcutt, Creator of Heath & Mud

  2. 12/28/2025

    History Fuels my Adventures - Kirsten Amor on Wild About Kinder

    Join Kirsten, her dog Tryfan and I for a walk up Kinder Scout from Hayfield up to Cluther Rocks. Hear about Kirsten’s interest in archaeology and folklore, her book inspired by the Peak District, and what makes her wild about Kinder. I spontaneously recorded half of this interview while we were walking uphill together. Hopefully this means you’ll feel more immersed in the experience by listening to the river, our footsteps in the squelch, and a natural flow of conversation. I wanted to capture Kirsten’s vibrant, fun energy and playfulness with her dog while we walked, and the moment that she found the Dog Stone. Kirsten Amor is a Sheffield-based writer, editor, and photographer obsessed with nature, history, and adventure sports. ​She is a former archaeologist and lifetime climber, hiker, and runner. Her writing has appeared in BBC Travel, BBC Wildlife, Atlas Obscura, The Sunday Times Travel Magazine, Mpora, The Great Outdoors, and Geographical, among others. References Longdendale Tales podcast Heath and Mud website The Curious Incident of the Dog in Kinder's Quarried Stone - substack post by Kirsten Amor Links Kirsten’s writing on Substack Kirsten’s website Follow Kirsten on Instagram Recording date This interview was recorded on Kinder Scout, 12th December 2025. Host & Production By Sarah Lister, About The Adventure Contact the host You can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments. Get involved with the conversation Send in your own Kinder Scout stories on the Wild About Kinder website and contact the show host to send in your comments, questions and suggestions. Subscribe to the Wild About Kinder newsletter and send in your contributions. Share your favourite episodes by tagging @about.the.adventure on Instagram and use the hashtag #WildAboutKinder. Thank you!

    History Fuels my Adventures - Kirsten Amor on Wild About Kinder

  3. 05/04/2025

    Kinder Scout holds a memory for everybody - Interview with photographer Matt Oliver

    Why does Kinder Scout appeal to Matt Oliver when his usual subject of photography is woodlands? He says that although they are very different environments, they carry a similar sensation. Find out more by tuning in. In this interview Matt tells us about how he got into photography, the challenges of capturing the Kinder Scout landscape, the companionship his dog Ralph brings to his life, and why he revisits the Kinder plateau. I asked him for a few tips on how to take good landscape photos too. Find out why Matt thinks you can show more by capturing less.  We recorded this interview below the rocky outcrop of Ringing Roger, sheltered as much as possible from the wind. Listen out for the curlew and grouse in the background. Matt lives in Sheffield which gives him good access to the Peak District and combines his enjoyment for walking with his love of photography. He’s been a commercial photographer for over 28 years and whenever he can he visits the Derbyshire countryside to experience its beauty and finds it a great balance to his day to day work. Matt has been runner up in the Professional Photographer magazine Portrait of the year awards, and received highly commended images in both the Pink Lady food photographer of the year and The Best Shots photographic awards. He has also had images commended and printed in the Landscape photographer of the Year awards books and shortlisted for Outdoor Photographer of the Year 2018 & 2019. Links Matt’s website: Derbyshire and Peak District landscape and woodland photography ‘Forgotten Souls’ book by Matt Oliver Matt’s substack: Among Trees Follow Matt on Instagram Follow Matt on Bluesky Matt’s commercial work: website References After the rains - Matt’s post about Kinder Scout ‘Forgotten Souls’ book by Matt Oliver Recording date This interview was recorded on Kinder Scout, 3rd May 2025. Host & Production By Sarah Lister, About The Adventure Contact the host You can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions. Get involved with the conversation Send in your own Kinder Scout stories on the Wild About Kinder website and contact the show host to send in your comments, questions and suggestions. Subscribe to the Wild About Kinder newsletter and send in your contributions. Share your favourite episodes by tagging @about.the.adventure on Instagram and abouttheadventure.com on Bluesky, and use the hashtag #WildAboutKinder. Thank you!

    Kinder Scout holds a memory for everybody - Interview with photographer Matt Oliver

  4. 01/23/2025

    Seeking adventure and solitude - Sarah Barker on Wild About Kinder

    “It’s really important that I get outside, out of the fluorescent lights, out of my uniform, and chase my own dreams and chase my own wants and desires outside of the career that I love so much.” Sarah Barker says that she can’t fully explain what it is about Kinder Scout that she loves so much but she thinks it’s because it makes her feel a certain way. It feels safe one minute and threatening another and she likes the challenge of both those places. In the first part of this interview you'll listen to Sarah talking about her first wildcamp on Kinder Scout and why she leaves the comfort of her family home to go out alone in nature to spend a night on a local hill or mountain. We recorded this part while hunkered down in the porch of her tent on Grindslow Knoll until we gave in to the howling wind and cold to the warmth of a log fire in my bungalow in Edale village. In the second half of the interview, Sarah shares why she started her YouTube channel which beautifully documents her wildcamping trips, how she learned navigation skills and of course what makes her Wild About Kinder. Sarah's biography Sarah is a Midwife, she chose this career path because she has an innate passion and drive for nurturing people. Supporting families through vulnerable life events is at the core of who she is and she gains a great deal of satisfaction from caring for birthing people as they become families.  She lives with her Husband, teenage children and 4 dachshunds near the Peak District and has recently been working on renovating her forever home.  She has a YouTube channel with over 3000 subscribers and 74 videos published to date. She started filming her camping adventures in 2024 and now believes that her videos have become an important extension to her camps to keep them alive for longer. The unique connections that she has made with ‘the best friends she may never meet’ continues to bring her joy and is highly motivating for herself and for others who either wish to explore the outdoors themselves or do so already. This diary of memories will continue to build throughout her exploration of the Peak District predominantly and become a legacy to her family when she is no longer able to do it. Links Subscribe to Sarah’s YouTube channel: SoloSarahB Follow Sarah on Instagram: solosarahbx Written feature on Wild About Kinder website: "A Tidy Mind on Kinder Scout" - by Sarah Barker References Patrick Dickinson Andrew Beavers Mountain Walks Kinder Scout book - by Sarah Lister Recording date This interview was recorded on Grindslow Knoll and later at my home in Edale on 19th December 2024. Host & Production By Sarah Lister, About The Adventure Contact the host You can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions. Get involved with the conversation Send in your own Kinder Scout stories on the Wild About Kinder website and contact the show host to send in your comments, questions and suggestions. Subscribe to my newsletter to hear about the latest episodes of this podcast, new blog posts and guided walks. Share your favourite episodes by tagging @about.the.adventure on Instagram @ABTheAdventure on Twitter, and use the hashtag #WildAboutKinder. Thank you!

    Seeking adventure and solitude - Sarah Barker on Wild About Kinder

  5. 10/31/2024

    Story of the 1932 Kinder Trespass with Martin Porter

    Martin Porter says that the 1932 Mass Trespass of Kinder Scout is two stories that cross over. One is the story about how we regained access to the land, and the other one is the story of British communism. In this interview he sets the wider historical context, shares his interpretation of the event, and describes some of the people involved. Later on in the episode Martin talks about his personal connection with Kinder Scout and the trespass, describes his favourite walk and finally adds the role of Edale in the Kinder trespass. Martin lives in Glossop and is the grandson of Claude Porter who was part of the Kinder Trespass in 1932. Martin has been an environmental activist for more than 20 years and helps to run the Manchester Greenpeace Group. He is also a qualified Social Worker and holds the role of Adult Care Convenor for Derbyshire UNISON. Between 1988 to 1991 he studied Physics with Astrophysics at the University of Leicester. Links Martin Porter on LinkedIn Martin Porter on X The Greenman blog by Martin References Manchester Greenpeace on Facebook Derbyshire Unison Further reading and information Forbidden Kinder by Keith Warrender Very scarce 1932 Kinder Trespass by Benny Rothman Mass Trespass video by WellRedFilms featuring Martin Porter The Communist PLOT That Changed The English Countryside - documentary by Stephen Reid Recording date This interview was recorded near Oller Brook in Edale on 17th October 2024. Host & Production By Sarah Lister, About The Adventure Contact the host You can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions. Get involved with the conversation Send in your own Kinder Scout stories on the Wild About Kinder website and contact the show host to send in your comments, questions and suggestions. Share your favourite episodes by tagging @about.the.adventure on Instagram @ABTheAdventure on Twitter, and use the hashtag #WildAboutKinder. Thank you!

    Story of the 1932 Kinder Trespass with Martin Porter

  6. 07/05/2024

    Kinder Scout: Like visiting an old friend - Interview with poet Yvonne Reddick

    Where did you feel separated from during the national lockdowns? Yvonne says that she longed for Kinder Scout in a way she never had before, missing it almost as she would an old friend.  In this interview, Yvonne reads two of her poems, ‘To a Snow Hare’ and ‘Dear Tor’, while sitting among the boulders of the Woolpacks on Kinder Scout. She chose this setting because of the characterful rocks that resemble living creatures.  I asked her about her creative process, what she has learnt about protecting mountain hares, how poetry has become part of her life, and why Kinder Scout is a special place to her. I think you’ll really enjoy Yvonne’s eloquent storytelling, fun nature and stirring words. A mountain hare came hopping past while recording which was only the second time that Yvonne has seen one on Kinder Scout. We were lucky to capture this very special experience while the microphones were on.  Yvonne Reddick is a poet and researcher. She is the author of Ted Hughes: Environmentalist and ecopoet, 2017 and Burning Season, a collection of poems, 2023. Burning Season won the Laurel Prize for Best UK First Collection of Ecopoetry and was shortlisted for the Saltire Poetry Book of the Year Award 2023. It was a BBC Radio 4 Poetry Extra Book of the Month for January 2024. With the wildlife filmmaker Aleksander Domanski, she made the film Searching for Snow Hares, shortlisted for the BMC’s Women in Adventure film awards. You can read more about her work here. Links Burning Season book by Yvonne Reddick Anthropocene Poetry: Place, Environment and Planet book by Yvonne Reddick @yvonnereddickwriter on Instagram @YvonneReddick on Twitter Yvonne’s website References Ted Hughes Penny Pot Cafe Searching for Mountain Hares - Cairngorms on YouTube BMC Recording date This interview was recorded at The Woolpacks on Kinder Scout on 11th May 2024. Host & Production By Sarah Lister, About The Adventure Contact the host You can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions. Get involved with the conversation Send in your own Kinder Scout stories on the Wild About Kinder website and contact the show host to send in your comments, questions and suggestions. Subscribe to the newsletter and send in your contributions. Share your favourite episodes by tagging @about.the.adventure on Instagram @ABTheAdventure on Twitter, and use the hashtag #WildAboutKinder. Thank you!

    Kinder Scout: Like visiting an old friend - Interview with poet Yvonne Reddick

  7. 03/20/2024

    Kinder Scout: A hill that’s not about the summit - Interview with writer Andrew Terrill

    “I love to imagine I’m back home on the hill that started it all for me, even though it’s worlds apart.” In this interview we listen to Andrew Terrill’s memories of walking, running and bivvying on Kinder Scout and why these experiences have had such a powerful and lasting impact in his life. He says that being in nature gave him the confidence to be himself. You’ll soon be able to tell that Andrew is a writer because of the way that he expresses himself and shares his anecdotes. He is a wonderful storyteller and reflects on his memories of Kinder with fondness. He says that he misses wandering in the mist, the sideways rain and the bogs squelching underfoot and being cold and damp. This interview is entertaining, heart-warming and inspiring. We hear from a man who shares openly and generously about how his journeys have changed him. There’s an air of curiosity and playfulness to his storytelling that I think you’ll find really engaging.  Andrew has written two books: The Earth Beneath My Feet (published June 1, 2021) and On Sacred Ground (published October 1, 2022). The books take readers on a 7,000-mile wilderness walk into the heart of wild nature. He also writes regularly on his blog which he describes as an outdoor diary, and shares beautiful photography.  Links Visit Andrew’s website Buy his books  Follow Andrew on Instagram Follow Andrew on Facebook Contact Andrew here References Article - An Ode to Kinder Scout (First published in TGO, August 2005) Mountain Walks Kinder Scout  Blog article - Acting my age Kinder Log by T. Nelthorpe (Cicerone, 1987) Recording date This interview was recorded online on 21st February 2024. Host & Production By Sarah Lister, About The Adventure Contact the host You can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions. Get involved with the conversation Send in your own Kinder Scout stories on the Wild About Kinder website and contact the show host to send in your comments, questions and suggestions. Subscribe to the newsletter and send in your contributions. Share your favourite episodes by tagging @about.the.adventure on Instagram @ABTheAdventure on Twitter, and use the hashtag #WildAboutKinder. Thank you!

    Kinder Scout: A hill that’s not about the summit - Interview with writer Andrew Terrill

  8. 02/09/2024

    Entering a different realm on the gnarly ground of Kinder Scout - Interview with musician Bella Hardy

    What does it smell like when you're sitting up on Kinder Scout Plateau? ‘Patron of the Bog’ Bella Hardy describes it as sweet and earthy. During this episode she shares memories of growing up in Edale, ‘beating the bounds’ with the local community, stories about sleeping dragons and giants from her childhood, and reflects on what makes her wild about Kinder. It’s a place that both inspires her music and gives her brain a break. You’ll hear Bella play the fiddle - ‘Broadlee Bank’ and ‘Crowden jig’ at the beginning and the end of this interview. Bella is a folk musician, with many of her songs inspired by the landscape and folk tales of the Peak District. The ‘Dark Peak and The White’ album is her first collection of music specifically from the area, with adaptations and new tunes to works from ‘The Ballads and Songs of Derbyshire’ published 1867, and original songs written for the history, folklore and legends of the area. Bella attended Edale CE Primary School and Hope Valley College and earned a Bachelor of Arts degree in English literature from York St John University in 2005 and a Master of Music degree from the University of Newcastle in 2007. You can read more about Bella on her website. Listen now to find out why Bella thinks Kinder Scout is a unique place. Links Bella’s website Follow Bella on Instagram Listen to Bella’s songs on Spotify Follow Bella on Bandcamp References The Dark Peak and The White With the dawn First light of the morning Hares on the Mountain Loving Hannah  Africa’s Mountains of the moon by Guy Yeoman Moors For The Future  Recording date This interview was recorded at Bella’s home in Edale on 15th January 2024. Host & Production By Sarah Lister, About The Adventure Contact the host You can email sarah@sarahventurer.com to send in your comments and suggestions. Get involved with the conversation Send in your own Kinder Scout stories on the Wild About Kinder website and contact the show host to send in your comments, questions and suggestions. Share your favourite episodes by tagging @about.the.adventure on Instagram @ABTheAdventure on Twitter, and use the hashtag #WildAboutKinder. Thank you!

    Entering a different realm on the gnarly ground of Kinder Scout - Interview with musician Bella Hardy
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This is Wild About Kinder, the podcast for anyone curious about Kinder Scout in the Peak District. Each episode will bring you interviews with people who appreciate the Kinder Scout landscape. I will ask guests about why they love it here, what makes it special and unique to them, and how their personal experiences relate to a sense of connection. My aims are to create an accessible resource for people to listen to stories, to learn about important issues in a relatable and engaging way, and to bring together a feeling of community. There will be unique questions for each guest, but every person interviewed will be asked: "What makes you wild about Kinder Scout?" This will provide a nice collection of different responses throughout the making of the show. Alec Boyd and Gabby Wolstenholme from The Northern Project worked with me on series 1 of this podcast, which was supported by the Peak District National Park Communities Small Grants Scheme. The show is available to listen to completely free, anywhere that you can find podcasts. You can also download each episode as an MP3.

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  • Creator
    Sarah Lister
  • Years Active
    2021 - 2026
  • Episodes
    19
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © Copyright 2026 Sarah Lister
  • Show Website
    Wild About Kinder

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