I Used To Think...

Pat Reid Lee

A podcast about people who were brave enough to change their mind.

  1. Sep 2

    24 | Leaving a Religious Cult, Emotions as Sins, and Spiritual Bypassing

    Christy grew up homeschooled and was part of a cult for a large part of her childhood. The cult, founded by Bill Gothard, is known as the Institute in Basic Life Principles (IBLP). Gothard stepped down as leader when multiple sexual abuse allegations were made against him. The teachings and culture of the cult deeply influenced the way Christy saw her faith, the world, and her own identity. In this episode, Christy shares how negative and uncomfortable emotions are weaponized within a cult. She explains how cults use power and control to prevent suspicion within the community. She discusses how strict standards are placed on women in particular and how freeing it felt to finally allowed herself to express her true personality after leaving IBLP. We discuss the practice of "spiritual bypassing" and how damaging it is to suppress our emotions with religious platitudes. Christy also gives advice on how to interact with a friend who is in a cult or is spiritually bypassing. Topics We Cover: Volunteering with baby goats Why uncomfortable emotions are not sins History of Bill Gothard, IBLP, and Advanced Training Institute (ATI) How cults use fear to control people Treatment of women within cults Finding your voice Spiritual bypassing Permission to feel and express emotions How to love someone who is trapped in a cult Doubt is not a sin Guest Links: Christy's Substack: https://substack.com/@christylynnewood   Christy's book detailing her journey out of the cult: https://christylynnewood.com/religious-rebels-book/ References: A Matter of Basic Principles: Bill Gothard and His Cultish Teachings A book by Don Veinot exploring IBLP and its cultish characteristics -- Follow this podcast on Instagram: @iusedtothinkpodcast  Pat's Email: patricktlee7@gmail.com   Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@iusedtothinkpodcast

    24 | Leaving a Religious Cult, Emotions as Sins, and Spiritual Bypassing
  2. Jun 24

    23 | From Tech Executive to Therapist, Ethical Technology, and Dungeons & Dragons

    In 2012, Jerry joined the video game company Riot Games as their Chief HR Officer. During his time there, the company grew tremendously, and so did the video game industry as a whole. Jerry observed as video game companies went from creating fun products to addicting products. He saw the ways in which games evolved from being enjoyable pastimes into monetization machines. After witnessing the effects of technology on society and mental health, Jerry decided to become a licensed therapist to make a meaningful impact on his community. Jerry warns against ignorance over the potential of AI and how to properly engage with AI. We discuss the somber reality of companies choosing profits over ethical practices and how we can counteract those negative affects through simple community gatherings - maybe even a game of Dungeons & Dragons.   Topics we cover: Evolution of the video game industry Profit vs. Ethics Social media and technology bans in China and Australia Becoming a licensed mental health counselor Board games and roleplaying games Technology free spaces Using AI wisely Guest Links: Jerry's Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/ProchazkaPontificates/   Jerry's AI consulting services for small businesses: Strategy & The Machine References: Jonathan Haidt's book The Anxious Generation (a book about technology and its affects on Gen Z's mental health) Tristan Harris' nonprofit: Center for Humane Technology -- Follow this podcast on Instagram: @iusedtothinkpodcast Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@iusedtothinkpodcast

    23 | From Tech Executive to Therapist, Ethical Technology, and Dungeons & Dragons
  3. Mar 17

    22 | Leaving White American Evangelicalism, Christian Nationalism, Church in the South

    Memphis, Tennessee is often considered the focal point for Christian Nationalism and conservative evangelicalism. My guest, Mark Hackett, grew up in this environment and refers to it as "white American evangelicalism." In our conversation, we discuss the characteristics of this type of Christianity and how it is unique to the South. According to Mark, the moralism, patriarchy, and strict authoritarian structures found in white American evangelicalism are not aligned with the Gospel and true Christianity. Mark shares candidly about how him and his family painfully left their church due to corruption and toxic political discourse. Mark shares how authentic Christianity is less about the afterlife and more about following the pattern that Jesus presents for how we live our lives and interact with others. Sign up for Mark's newsletter: https://www.markhackett.com/newsletter Check out Mark's website: https://www.markhackett.com/about-me Mark's Article about his story: https://www.markhackett.com/writings/escaping-white-american-evangelicalism References: Jesus and John Wayne by Kristin Du Mez The Flag and the Cross by Philip Gorski Things we discuss: Church culture in the South compared to California Tolkien What is Christian Nationalism? Individualism in the church The effects of Trumpism in Southern churches Church abuse and corruption Searching for a new church What is true Christianity? What is the Gospel? Why Mark shares his story via blogging and podcasting -- Follow on Instagram: @iusedtothinkpodcast Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@iusedtothinkpodcast

    22 | Leaving White American Evangelicalism, Christian Nationalism, Church in the South
  4. 08/20/2025

    20 | Romantic Love vs. Real Love, Relationship Anxiety, and the Stage After Infatuation

    When Marianne was 21 years old, she started dating, Tony, the man of her dreams. Initially smitten and deeply infatuated, she thought of him constantly. Then nine months into the relationship, these feelings began to fade and Marianne experienced intense emotional turmoil, leading her to question the nature of love and her connection with Tony. It affected her so deeply that she couldn't eat or sleep.  Marianne talks about how society has idolized romantic love and elevated it to a godlike status, expecting it to fulfill our every need. Doubt is not presented as a normal part of relationships but rather a sign that something is wrong. Through resources like Cheryl Paul's work on relationship anxiety, Marianne discovered that love is more about action and commitment rather than just feelings. She learned that love is a choice to commit to someone even when it's difficult. Marianne's podcast about fantasy books: https://open.spotify.com/show/2AmfNU6P3iINRmE2x3uAgS?si=MNhfRqfkS8eEotCh4B4F8Q Marianne's newly published children's book about children of immigrant parents: https://www.amazon.com/Came-Here-You-Marianne-Boules/dp/1662953585   Topics we discuss: - Relationship anxiety - Infatuation stage of a relationship - Romantic love versus real love - Love as a choice - Elizabeth Gilbert's book "Eat, Pray, Love" - Hozier's song "Take Me to Church" - Romantic love as a deity in culture - Doubt as a normal part of relationships __ New Substack for the podcast! https://iusedtothink.substack.com/p/what-i-used-to-think-recovering-from?r=ljh57 Follow on Instagram: @iusedtothinkpodcast Watch this episode on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@iusedtothinkpodcast

    20 | Romantic Love vs. Real Love, Relationship Anxiety, and the Stage After Infatuation
  5. 04/23/2025

    18 | Entrepreneurship, Dropping Out Of College, and Learning from Failure

    Chris started his first business when he was 19 years old. He worked hard at sustaining the business but lacked the experience and community he needed. By the time he was 21 years old, Chris had two failed business attempts under his belt. He tried going to college but realized it was not for him. Life felt bleak for Chris. In this episode, Chris walks us through his career journey, from dropping out of college to starting his own business - for the third time. Chris learned the value of working various jobs, even those he felt miserable in. He gained confidence as he received job offers despite not having a college degree. He also found a creative outlet through music production with his friend Keith. Chris talks about the importance of having the right network of people around him who can encourage him and keep him humble. He talks about his wife, Jen, and how meaningful her support has been for him as an entrepreneur. Topics We Discuss: Whether college is for everyone Entrepreneurship Overcoming failure Being passionate about what you are working on Assessing risk Learning from criticism Music production Creativity Board games Having a supportive spouse/partner Surrounding yourself with good people Southern California traffic Chris' LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/itschrisnguyen AfterGate Studios: Instagram @aftergatestudios Transcript for this episode: https://share.descript.com/view/VRWR2x73Ay8 Contact Pat: DM me on Instagram! @iusedtothinkpodcast Email: PATRICKTLEE7@GMAIL.COM

    18 | Entrepreneurship, Dropping Out Of College, and Learning from Failure
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