In this deeply introspective episode, Frank and Jess explore the interplay between personal growth, vulnerability, and the wisdom found in tarot cards. Their conversation weaves through themes of emotional processing, professional relationships, and the profound insights that can arise from seemingly mundane experiences. - Jess shares her recent experience of emotional vulnerability, including spending "a more than normal amount of time crying yesterday" and making a difficult decision to decline an opportunity to maintain balance in her life. - Frank opens up about his fears and joys in witnessing Jess' personal growth, expressing vulnerability about his worry that Jess might "tire of me and move on to other things" as she continues to grow and thrive. - Discussion of the balance between professional distance and personal connection in their work, with Frank reflecting on the joy he finds in witnessing Jess' transformation: "I get front row seats for the most great show, greatest show on earth." - Exploration of two tarot cards: the Eight of Swords and the Wheel of Fortune. Jess describes the Eight of Swords as being "stuck, but not really stuck," using the metaphor of focusing on a locked door while missing an open window. - Insights on breaking free from self-imposed limitations, with Frank relating the Eight of Swords to a recent chess game where he got caught up in one line of thinking and missed a simpler solution. - Discussion of the Wheel of Fortune card, with Jess explaining it as a reminder to "come back to the center of the wheel" when life feels chaotic, and Frank sharing his perspective on feeling less attached to the ups and downs of life. Memorable quotes: - Jess: "I don't know how most of the world gets by in life, not crying as much as I do. But so much to cry about." - Frank: "I have a deep resonant joy in experiencing the world of the other in a very deep way." - Jess on the Eight of Swords: "The thoughts alone are what are keeping us feeling trapped." - Frank on the Wheel of Fortune: "I don't really see a big difference between the successes and the failures actually. They seem both to be narratives." - Jess: "The inside of the wheel and the outside of the wheel are the same wheel." - Frank, reflecting on the simple joys of life: "I was just in tears of the awe of it, the Grand Canyon ness of the simple, mundane human existence of life, of just being." New to Feel This? We're so happy you're here! We would love to stay connected! Join Our Mailing List and talk with us directly! Coming soon! A Feel This online community space. Keep an eye and ear out! We were selected in 2023 by Feedspot in their Top 30 Internal Family Systems Podcasts! The primer episodes below establish the space our conversations take place in. They will enhance your listening experience of our podcast and give you tools to use in your life and relationships. Primer #1 - Modes of Communication Primer #2 - Looking into Internal Family Systems Your Feedback is so meaningful to us. Please leave us a comment. We would love to hear from you and include your energy and awareness into our creative process. About this Podcast: Feel This is a series of experiential conversations between Jessica Olberz Singleton and Frank D’Amato exploring trauma, healing and awakening through the lens of relationship. Through the use of Authentic Connection, which focuses on our present moment experience, Frank and Jess share their emotions, inner dialogue and physical experience as a way of connecting more deeply to themselves, each other and the listener. Each episode is created to be an emotional and spiritual journey for all involved. Your hosts: Frank D’Amato is an Internal Family Systems practitioner and the creator of the Authentic Connection model. Jessica Olberz Singleton is an artist, teacher, tarot reader, synthesizer of information, and creator of safe and beautiful spaces.