A Slice of Bread and Butter

The Bread and Butter Thing

The voice of The Bread and Butter Thing - with stories from the frontline of the cost of living crisis from one of the UK's leading food charities.

  1. 2d ago

    What If The Problem Is Not Aspiration But The Pathway

    Send us Fan Mail Diana joins us with her dog Gizmo in the background and tells the kind of story that sticks with you. what it’s like to live through a nervous breakdown, carry anxiety for years, and still keep turning up as a parent? We talk about the fear and loss of control that comes with mental health trauma, how dyspraxia can make everyday life harder than people assume, and the quiet confidence it takes to say, “That was then, this is now”, while you’re still in the middle of recovery.  We also get practical about money and food. Diana explains the real maths of Universal Credit, rising bills, and the end-of-week fridge check, plus how a low-cost weekly shop through The Bread and Butter Thing helps her stretch the budget with fruit, veg, fridge food, frozen items, and cupboard staples. We dig into dignity too and ask why members sometimes say they’ve been “given” food, why paying matters, and how community food support can feel like friendship as much as groceries. And yes, there is a surprisingly passionate debate about avocados.  From there we zoom out into the bigger questions... why people are judged for being on benefits, why so many want to work and regain routine, and why policy often confuses “low aspiration” with “no clear pathway”. We explore local heroes, careers guidance, apprenticeships versus university, and the unintended consequences that shape who takes which route. If you care about cost of living, food poverty, mental health, or social mobility, listen now, then subscribe, share with a mate, and leave us a review. What’s one clear pathway you wish you’d been shown earlier?

    23 min
  2. Jun 5

    Breaking Bread with Hovis

    Send us Fan Mail Bread is cheap, familiar, and everywhere which might be exactly why we waste so much of it. We sit down with Chris from Hovis to pull back the curtain on what “bread waste” actually looks like in UK bakery manufacturing and distribution, from out of spec loaves and sensitive dough to supermarket shelf life demands that can make perfectly good stock unsellable before it ever reaches a shelf. We talk about how Hovis works across branded and own label products, how surplus shows up in distribution centres, and why so much still ends up in animal feed. Chris is candid about the practical barriers: older bakery equipment, tight margins that slow investment, and the hidden asset problem of bread trays, pallets and baskets that need constant replacing. It is a proper look at sustainability in food supply chains, with the messy trade-offs included. From there, we get into the bits that affect all of us at home: date labels, the best before versus use by confusion, and how fear of getting it wrong drives household food waste. We also explore what could shift the system, from smarter logistics like backhauling to policy incentives that prioritise feeding people and recognise the true costs of food insecurity on health and stress. If you care about food waste reduction, surplus food redistribution, and practical ways to tackle food poverty in the UK, press play then subscribe, share, and leave us a review so more people find the show.

    24 min
  3. May 29

    Barfoots of Botley and surplus veg

    Send us Fan Mail “Food waste” is often just food that lost its label, its looks, or its moment. We sit down with Steve Brown, Head of Customer Technical at Barfoots (and sustainability lead for factory operations), to get specific about what surplus means inside a major UK fresh produce grower and packer, and why the route from field or factory to plate is shaped as much by definitions as by lorries. We talk about Barfoots’ farming roots and what it takes to supply vegetables across seasons by following the sun through the UK, Spain and Senegal. Then we get into the messy middle: anaerobic digestion for inedible by-product, and the grey area where edible produce can still end up as “waste”. Steve breaks down streams like sweetcorn husks (truly inedible) versus sweet potato and butternut offcuts that are perfectly fine to eat, plus tenderstem broccoli leaves and mixed-colour chillies that fail cosmetic standards but not flavour, safety or nutrition. From there, we zoom out to the policy and measurement problem. Pre-farm gate food waste is hard to count when harvests are multi-pass and “cut and drop” can be plant husbandry rather than negligence. We explore mandatory food waste reporting, the cultural nature of “edible vs inedible”, and why language matters because what we call waste often becomes waste. The thread that holds it together is simple: redistribution works when relationships make it easy, low-cost and reliable for surplus food to go to people who need it, especially as the cost of living squeezes household budgets. If you find this useful, subscribe, share the episode with someone who cares about sustainable food systems, and leave us a review so more people can find the show.

    28 min
  4. May 22

    What If The Problem Is Not Your Budget

    Send us Fan Mail £2.47 left after bills. Not “after treats”, not “after a big shop”, after the basics. That single number from Tracy in Warrington says more about the UK cost of living crisis than a hundred hot takes about budgeting ever could, and it sets the tone for a conversation that is both funny and painfully real. We meet Tracy at the Latchford hub and talk about the practical reality of food insecurity: being paid fortnightly, trying to plan for an 18 day gap, and watching the price of everyday items jump week by week. She shares what she can actually spend on food, why meat has become so hard to justify, and how public transport costs change what “saving money” even means when getting to town and back is a fiver. Along the way we get the details that make life feel human, from volunteering locally for years to walking miles in summer to stay connected with family. We also dig into the bigger question behind her story: why simple solutions do not work for everyone. It is easy for the media, influencers, and even charities to push one neat fix, but real lives are complicated, especially when mental health, bills, travel, and caring responsibilities all collide. That is why community food clubs and surplus food redistribution matter, not as a slogan, but as one practical support that fits around how people actually live. If you care about affordable groceries, community support, and what the cost of living looks like on the ground, listen through and share it with someone who still thinks the answer is “just budget better”. Subscribe, leave a review, and tell us what part of Tracy’s story stayed with you.

    20 min
  5. May 15

    What Does A Fair Benefits System Look Like When You Can Barely Stand

    Send us Fan Mail A single jump. No warning. One second you’re proud of a job well done, the next you can’t feel your legs. For our 100th episode, Vic phones in as a roving reporter from rainy York and we share Steve’s story from Manchester, starting with the day in 2015 when a routine bit of landscape gardening ended in a serious back injury and long-term nerve damage. It’s a conversation about how fast ordinary life can change, and what it takes to keep going when it does.  We talk about the real-world impact of disability and chronic pain: the loss of work, the shock of going from a strong self-employed income to a tiny monthly benefit, and the way identity can fracture when you can’t do the things that once defined you. Steve opens up about repeated falls, the constant uncertainty of a leg giving way, and the impossible choices that come with treatment, including surgery that carries the risk of never walking again. Throughout, his children are the anchor point, shaping every decision and keeping him connected to hope.  We also dig into the UK benefits system, including PIP assessments, appeals, and the emotional cost of having to prove your needs again and again. Steve’s experience of taking the DWP to court, winning, and still ending up worn down by the process is hard to hear, but vital to understand. On the practical side, we chat about finding The Bread and Butter Thing, stretching the budget through affordable food, and the surprisingly powerful routine of batch cooking meals that last. There are lighter moments too, from “Turkey teeth” to Charlie the Chihuahua trying to run the interview.  If Steve’s story makes you think, please subscribe, share this with someone who needs it, and leave us a review. What part of the system do you most want to see changed, and why?

    22 min
  6. May 8

    Life On A Tight Food Budget

    Send us Fan Mail A weekly food budget can look fine on paper, right up until you try to feed a family, cover the bills, and still say yes to the small joys that make life feel normal. We sit down with Caroline from Whitby, a single mum raising her 13-year-old son while managing severe asthma, fibromyalgia, endometriosis and POTS. She talks candidly about what caring takes out of you, why work is not possible right now, and how quickly your world can shrink when all your energy goes into keeping your child steady.  Caroline also shares what it feels like to claim benefits after years of working and why guilt can be the loudest voice in the room. We dig into the real-life impact of the UK cost of living crisis: prices rising faster than incomes, “one-off” spends that wreck a plan, and the constant pressure of weekends, treats, and the everyday “can we?” that comes with having a teenager. We also get into the tricky but necessary job of teaching kids about money, especially when schools do not cover budgeting and online games make spending feel invisible.  We reflect on how COVID changed schooling for some children, why quieter learning environments can help, and how returning to normal can be a shock. And because Whitby winters are no joke, we talk seasonal budgeting, keeping kids entertained when it’s bitterly cold, and the importance of local community support. Along the way we share how The Bread and Butter Thing uses surplus food to run affordable food clubs, turning a cheaper weekly shop into breathing space for families.  Subscribe for more stories from our members, share this with someone who needs it, and leave a review so more people can find the podcast.

    22 min
  7. May 1

    Food Waste Wisdom From St Ambrose

    Send us Fan Mail Kids can spot food waste a mile off and they say the quiet part out loud. We sit down with pupils from St Ambrose Primary for a funny, sharp, and surprisingly thoughtful chat about what food waste actually is, why it happens, and what people can do at home to stop good food ending up in the bin. We start with favourite foods and quickly get into the real stuff: leftovers that never get eaten, food that goes out of date in the fridge, and the difference between unavoidable scraps like peel and bones versus perfectly edible meals that get chucked. The kids share practical ideas that are easy to copy such as saving meals for the next day, composting what cannot be eaten, and giving spare food to others rather than wasting it. One tip that lands hard is simple: don’t go shopping hungry, because overbuying turns into household food waste fast. Then we zoom out. If a child were Prime Minister, would they fine people for wasting food, ban buying food you will not eat, or make a big national speech to change behaviour? We also dig into why food waste feels so complicated in the UK, from confusing bin systems to the sheer amount of choice in shops, and how those pressures collide with cost of living, the environment, and long-term resilience. If you care about reducing food waste, saving money on your weekly shop, and building stronger communities through surplus food redistribution, press play. Subscribe, share the episode, leave us a review, and tell us your best leftover or shopping tip.

    21 min
  8. Apr 24

    Kirsty's more resilient than she thinks

    Send us Fan Mail Crisis does not always look like eviction notices and cardboard boxes. Sometimes it is a mental health crash, a five-week wait for Universal Credit, and the quiet panic of watching food prices climb while your teenager needs more than a swing in the park to feel like life is normal. We’re joined by Kirsty from Manchester, a single mum who works part-time in crisis support and has managed long-term mental health challenges for most of her life. She shares what happened when she took on too much, lost her job, and suddenly had to navigate the benefits system while unwell. We talk about the culture she experienced at DWP, why support can feel hardest to access at the exact moment you have the least energy, and what a more human system could look like, including her idea of aligning decisions more closely with healthcare realities. Kirsty also brings the day-to-day detail that rarely makes headlines: writing a priority shopping list, counting every pound as you move through the supermarket, and the sting of asking for items to be taken off at the checkout. We dig into the cost of living crisis, inflation, fuel shocks, and why “working families” can still need an affordable food scheme. Along the way we explore how surplus food and mobile food clubs can cut food waste, reduce food insecurity, and build community that lasts far beyond a bag of groceries. If you care about food poverty, mental health, Universal Credit, and practical community support, listen now then subscribe, share the podcast with a mate, and leave us a review so more people can find it.

    24 min

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The voice of The Bread and Butter Thing - with stories from the frontline of the cost of living crisis from one of the UK's leading food charities.

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