When I Heard This - Podcast

Nate Robinsoff and Joseph Tillman

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RELIGION & SPIRITUALITY
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What happens when a comedian asks a pastor whatever he wants?? 😮 In the "When I Heard This" podcast, comedian Nate Robinsoff asks Pastor Joseph Tillman, M.Div. whatever questions he can think of about church in America, the Bible, Christianity, cults, sex, and well really anything! He doesn't hold much back 🤣. https://www.youtube.com/@wheniheardthispodcast?sub_confirmation=1

3D AGO

Episode 176 – The War Debate Starts in the Bible

What happens when you actually read the Bible passages about war… instead of quietly skipping them? Because once those stories show up, the conversation about faith, violence, and responsibility gets a lot more complicated. This episode kicks off a larger discussion about Christian views on war and what Scripture actually says about it. Not the polished answers people tend to repeat, but the uncomfortable questions that show up when you read the text for yourself. Is war actually common in the Bible? What passages talk about it directly? And does God appear to view war differently between the Old Testament and the New Testament? Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman dig into the tension that Christians have wrestled with for centuries. If the Old Testament includes battles commanded by God, what are believers supposed to do with that today? Is war automatically murder, or are there situations where it isn’t? And when violence happens in war, who actually carries the moral weight, the leader giving the order or the person carrying it out? As usual, the conversation doesn’t pretend the answers are simple. Nate asks the kind of blunt questions that tend to show up in group chats but rarely in church settings, while Dr. Joseph Tillman brings the biblical and historical context. The result is a discussion that’s thoughtful, a little sarcastic, and very comfortable poking at the assumptions Christians often inherit without realizing it. Follow or subscribe to the podcast 🔔 Rate or favorite the episode if it resonated 👍 Share the episode with someone who enjoys honest faith conversations 📤 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/dhGYNkhoq3Y Website: https://wheniheardthispodcast.com/link-in-bio/ Locals + X: @wheniheardthis Facebook + Instagram: @wheniheardthispodcast #christianpodcast #faithdiscussion #biblequestions #theologytalk #churchculture

59 min
MAR 2

Episode 175 – Lent Is Not Just Giving Up Chocolate

Is Lent actually a historic Christian practice… or did we just turn it into a 40 day sugar detox? In this episode, the guys unpack what Lent really is, what it means, and why Christians have observed it for centuries. They talk about the church calendar, fasting, repentance, spiritual discipline, and why the number 40 keeps showing up in Scripture. It is less about chocolate and more about formation. They also get honest about how Lent plays out in modern church culture. Is it meaningful? Performative? Confusing? Somewhere in between? This conversation looks at faith, leadership, family rhythms, and everyday discipleship without assuming everyone listening grew up with ashes on their forehead. Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman approach the topic the way they approach everything else. Thoughtful. A little sarcastic. Not impressed by religious busywork. Curious about what actually shapes people over time. It is theology, but grounded in real life and real questions Christians and skeptics both tend to ask. Follow or subscribe to the podcast 🔔 Rate or favorite the episode if it resonated 👍 Share the episode with someone who has ever “given something up” and wondered why 📤 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/o9HbqPf9-is Website: https://wheniheardthispodcast.com/link-in-bio/ Locals + X: @wheniheardthis Facebook + Instagram: @wheniheardthispodcast #Lent #ChristianPodcast #FaithAndCulture #ChurchLeadership #SpiritualDiscipline

1 hr
FEB 23

Episode 174 – Universalism and the Disney Ending Problem

What if everyone gets saved in the end… and that is actually the problem? In this second and final conversation on universalism, we dig into the “Disney ending” version of theology. The idea sounds comforting. No eternal consequences. No final separation. Everyone reconciled. Cue the emotional music. But what does that do to justice, holiness, leadership, and the actual claims of historic Christianity? We talk about universalism through both theology and popular opinion. Why does it resonate so strongly in modern American church culture? Is it compassion, discomfort with judgment, or just a cultural allergy to hard endings? And if everyone gets a trophy, what exactly are we being saved from? Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman approach the topic the way they approach most things: honest questions, real church experience, and just enough sarcasm to keep it human. The conversation is thoughtful without being academic and skeptical without being cynical. If you have ever wrestled with faith, questioned church culture, or felt suspicious of overly tidy theological answers, this episode is for you. Follow or subscribe to the podcast 🔔 Rate or favorite the episode if it resonated 👍 Share the episode with someone who enjoys a little theology with their commentary 📤 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/aoBl3sJVrzs Website: https://wheniheardthispodcast.com/link-in-bio/ Locals + X: @wheniheardthis Facebook + Instagram: @wheniheardthispodcast #Universalism #ChristianPodcast #FaithAndCulture #TheologyDiscussion #ChurchCulture

1h 10m
FEB 16

Episode 173 – Universalism and the “Everyone Gets a Trophy” Gospel

If everyone makes it to heaven in the end… what exactly are we doing here? Is universalism a serious theological position, or is it just the gospel rebranded for a culture that hates the idea of anyone being left out? In this episode, the conversation turns toward Christian universalism and the growing popularity of the belief that all people will ultimately be saved. Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman explore the theology behind it, the biblical arguments often cited in its defense, and the way cultural pressure quietly shapes doctrine. They look at how ideas about hell, judgment, grace, and justice get softened or reframed in modern church spaces. This is not a straw man. It is an honest look at universal salvation, why some Christians find it compelling, and where the tension shows up when you actually read Scripture. Faith, leadership, and church culture all collide in a discussion that refuses to pretend the answers are easy. Nate brings the pointed, real-world questions. Dr. Joseph Tillman brings theological depth and historical context. Together, they wrestle through what universalism claims, how it fits or conflicts with traditional Christian doctrine, and why this conversation matters for believers, skeptics, and anyone navigating church in America right now. Follow or subscribe to the podcast 🔔 Rate or favorite the episode if it resonated 👍 Share the episode with someone who has strong opinions about hell 📤 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/bLcDWgJNSuo Website: https://wheniheardthispodcast.com/link-in-bio/ Locals + X: @wheniheardthis Facebook + Instagram: @wheniheardthispodcast #Universalism #ChristianTheology #FaithAndCulture #ChurchLeadership #ChristianPodcast

1 hr
FEB 8

Episode 172 – Bible College Without the Brochure Energy

Bible college sounds great in theory. Real life tends to ask better questions. This episode continues the Bible college conversation, but drops the polished language and turns up the pressure. Nate comes in hotter with the questions most people think about but usually keep to themselves. What is Bible college actually designed to do. Who does it serve well. And what happens when the classroom version of faith meets real leadership, real relationships, and real church culture. The discussion moves through faith formation, calling, authority, and expectations without pretending there are easy answers. It is not a takedown, and it is not a promo. It is a candid look at what Bible college prepares you for and what it does not, especially once the brochure stops talking. Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman keep the conversation grounded, honest, and a little uncomfortable in the best way. One pushes with curiosity and skepticism. The other responds with lived experience and zero interest in churchy spin. It stays thoughtful, human, and occasionally funny throughout. If you have attended Bible college, considered it, led people who did, or just wonder how faith education actually shapes people, this episode will probably hit close to home. Follow or subscribe to the podcast 🔔 Rate or favorite the episode if it resonated 👍 Share the episode with someone who would enjoy the conversation 📤 Links Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/5vcyeQt872c Website: https://wheniheardthispodcast.com/link-in-bio/ Locals + X: @wheniheardthis Facebook + Instagram: @wheniheardthispodcast #BibleCollege #FaithAndCulture #ChurchConversations #ChristianPodcast #LeadershipAndFaith

1h 3m
FEB 3

Episode 171 – Bible College 101

Thinking about Bible college? Or still trying to figure out what it was actually supposed to do? This conversation starts at the basics, before anyone starts arguing in the comments. This is the first episode in a multi-part series on Bible college, and it intentionally starts slow. No shock value. No hot takes yet. Just context. Nate and Dr. Joseph talk through what Bible college is designed for, what it is not, and why so many people walk into it with expectations it was never built to meet. They dig into faith formation, leadership development, calling vs career, and how Bible college fits into modern church culture. It is informational on purpose, setting the groundwork for tougher, more opinionated conversations coming later in the series. Consider this the syllabus before things get spicy. Hosted by Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman, the conversation pulls from real ministry experience, personal stories, and years of watching people navigate Bible college with mixed results. The tone stays honest and self-aware, with just enough sarcasm to keep it from sounding like a brochure. If this episode lands, follow or subscribe to the podcast 🔔 Rate or favorite it 👍 Share it with someone who is considering Bible college or still processing it 📤 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/Mw63mV2Q1Ek Website: https://wheniheardthispodcast.com/link-in-bio/ Locals + X: @wheniheardthis Facebook + Instagram: @wheniheardthispodcast #BibleCollege #ChurchLeadership #FaithAndCulture #ChristianPodcast #ChurchConversations

57 min
FEB 1

In the Headlines: The Bethel Scandal

When church leadership makes headlines, the fallout is never just internal. And this time, the story is heavier than most. Sensitive content warning: This episode discusses allegations involving fraud and sexual abuse. Listener discretion is advised. In this In the Headlines episode, Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman talk through the ongoing Bethel Church scandal involving Shawn Bolz, Kris Vallotton, and Bill Johnson. They unpack what’s being alleged, why these stories are gaining traction, and how power, influence, and accountability intersect in modern church culture. This conversation isn’t built on outrage or speculation. It’s a careful, honest look at how scandals like this affect real people, real faith communities, and public trust in Christian leadership. The discussion centers on discernment, responsibility, and what it means to take allegations seriously without turning faith into a PR exercise. Because this is a news-based episode, clarity matters. Nate and Dr. Joseph slow things down, separate confirmed information from assumptions, and reflect on how both believers and skeptics process stories like this when they involve spiritual authority and harm. Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman bring lived experience, dry commentary, and a refusal to look away from uncomfortable topics. In the Headlines exists to address what’s already dominating conversations, without pretending these moments don’t shape how people understand church, leadership, and faith itself. Continue the conversation: • Follow or subscribe to the podcast 🔔 • Rate or favorite the episode if it resonated 👍 • Share the episode with someone who would appreciate the discussion 📤 Links: • Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/LrMM27hzPb0 • Website: https://wheniheardthispodcast.com/link-in-bio/ • Locals + X: @wheniheardthis • Facebook + Instagram: @wheniheardthispodcast #BethelChurch #ChurchScandal #ChristianLeadership #FaithAndCulture #WhenIHeardThis

1h 15m
JAN 26

Episode 170 – Atheism and the Meaning Plot Hole

If meaning is just something we make up, why does it keep falling apart? In this episode, the conversation goes straight at atheism and the meaning problem it creates. Not as a debate and definitely not as a gotcha. More like an honest look at what happens when belief in God is removed and purpose is expected to hold itself together anyway. We talk about why meaning feels necessary even when people reject faith, where moral frameworks actually come from, and why culture keeps borrowing Christian ideas while insisting it does not need Christianity. The discussion moves through leadership, relationships, and everyday decision-making, especially in a world that wants purpose without transcendence. This is not a tidy answers episode. It is observational, occasionally uncomfortable, and very aware that both Christians and skeptics carry assumptions they rarely slow down to examine. Nate and Dr. Joseph Tillman bring their usual mix of curiosity, humor, and real-life perspective to the conversation. They push on ideas without pretending everything resolves cleanly, and they are honest about where faith clarifies things and where it complicates them. If this conversation resonated, follow or subscribe to the podcast 🔔 Rate or favorite the episode 👍 Share it with someone who enjoys thoughtful conversations about faith and culture 📤 Watch the full episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/KSBv8rBnrTs Website: https://wheniheardthispodcast.com/link-in-bio/ Locals + X: @wheniheardthis Facebook + Instagram: @wheniheardthispodcast #Atheism #FaithAndCulture #ChristianPodcast #MeaningOfLife #ChurchAndCulture

1h 13m

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What happens when a comedian asks a pastor whatever he wants?? 😮 In the "When I Heard This" podcast, comedian Nate Robinsoff asks Pastor Joseph Tillman, M.Div. whatever questions he can think of about church in America, the Bible, Christianity, cults, sex, and well really anything! He doesn't hold much back 🤣. https://www.youtube.com/@wheniheardthispodcast?sub_confirmation=1

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Nate Robinsoff and Joseph Tillman
Years Active

2022 - 2026
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183
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