"No Trust" by Zero Trust Forum

"No Trust" by Zero Trust Forum

Listen to experts discuss the latest in Zero Trust security on our podcast! Explore topics like adaptive access control, data protection, and insider threat mitigation. Stay informed about Zero Trust architecture, best practices, and real-world case studies to enhance your cybersecurity strategy. Tune in for insights and advice on building a resilient, secure infrastructure.

  1. How AI Exposes Security Skeletons and What to Do About It

    May 12

    How AI Exposes Security Skeletons and What to Do About It

    In this episode, Howard Holton joins the No Trust podcast team to discuss why AI is exposing long standing weaknesses across cybersecurity, identity, and IT operations. Drawing on decades of experience as a CIO, CTO, and CISO, Howard shares practical insights into why organisations continue to struggle with security fundamentals, how technical debt has created massive hidden risk, and why AI is accelerating the impact of those problems rather than creating entirely new ones. The conversation explores identity hygiene, least privilege access, blast radius reduction, Zero Trust principles, board level accountability, and the growing gap between business speed and secure delivery. The episode also looks at why organisations need to rethink culture, governance, and leadership if they want to build sustainable security strategies in the AI era. Key Takeaways: • AI is exposing years of poor security hygiene. • Identity and access control matter more than ever. • Technical debt is becoming a major security risk. • AI increases the speed and scale of attacks. • Businesses still prioritise speed over security. • Least privilege is critical in the AI era. • Zero Trust helps reduce blast radius. • Security must become part of doing things right. • Boards need stronger cybersecurity understanding. • Organisations need time to clean up legacy issues. Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. What is the Zero Trust Forum about?  It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/

    50 min
  2. Navigating the Cybersecurity Landscape in 2026: Insights from Gina Yacone

    May 8

    Navigating the Cybersecurity Landscape in 2026: Insights from Gina Yacone

    In this episode, Gina Yacone joins Jaye Tillson and John Spiegel to discuss the latest trends in cybersecurity, Zero Trust, AI, identity, vulnerability management, and the evolving industry landscape. The conversation explores how organisations are being forced to rethink security because of rising cyber threats, AI-driven attacks, regulatory pressure, and the growing importance of business-aligned cybersecurity leadership. They also share practical insights on reducing attack surface, managing technical debt, preparing for quantum risks, securing AI adoption, and why modern CISOs must increasingly speak the language of the business rather than just technology. Key Takeaways: • Zero Trust is moving from buzzword to business necessity. • Identity is back at the centre of serious security conversations. • Zero Trust is about reducing blast radius, not pretending breaches will never happen. • AI is helping attackers move faster, scale better, and make fewer mistakes. • Defenders need AI too, but adoption and operationalisation are still hard. • Vulnerability management must move from counting CVEs to understanding real exposure. • CTEM is changing how organisations prioritise risk and patching. • Quantum readiness should start now with simple assessments and crypto visibility. • CISOs need to speak business language, not just technical language. • Secure AI, data governance, and SDLC controls are becoming urgent priorities. Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. What is the Zero Trust Forum about?  It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/

    51 min
  3. Navigating the Zero Trust Landscape in 2026 with Chase Cunningham

    Feb 3

    Navigating the Zero Trust Landscape in 2026 with Chase Cunningham

    In this episode of the No Trust podcast, Chase Cunningham discusses the evolution of Zero Trust, reflecting on the growth and challenges faced in 2025 and looking ahead to 2026. The conversation covers the hype cycle of Zero Trust, the importance of leadership in strategy implementation, the need for cultural shifts, and the metrics that matter in measuring success. The discussion also touches on the role of AI in cybersecurity and the future of Zero Trust as a standard practice in organizations. Key Takeaways: • 2025 was a year of significant international growth for Zero Trust. • The Zero Trust hype cycle has transitioned to a phase of practicality. • Leadership is crucial for the continuous execution of Zero Trust strategies. • Organizations often misinterpret Zero Trust as a completed project rather than an ongoing strategy. • Incentives in cybersecurity need to shift from punitive measures to positive reinforcement. • Cultural challenges in adopting Zero Trust can hinder its effectiveness. • Metrics should focus on real-world outcomes rather than superficial statistics. • Zero Trust is becoming a necessary standard for modern businesses. • Technical debt poses a significant challenge for legacy organizations in adopting Zero Trust. • The future of Zero Trust will likely see it integrated as a default practice in new organizations. Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. What is the Zero Trust Forum about?  It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/

    47 min
  4. Burning Down Cybersecurity Myths with Mr Unpopular Opinion

    11/13/2025

    Burning Down Cybersecurity Myths with Mr Unpopular Opinion

    In this episode of the No Trust podcast, John Spiegel engages with cybersecurity expert Joshua Copeland, who shares his insights on the fundamental flaws in the cybersecurity landscape. They discuss the leadership vacuum in the industry, the pitfalls of compliance theater, and the overwhelming vendor hype that complicates tool selection. Joshua emphasizes the need for a proactive approach to security, aligning cybersecurity with business objectives, and the importance of effective communication with leadership. The conversation culminates in actionable takeaways for cybersecurity leaders looking to improve their strategies and outcomes. Key Takeaways: • Cybersecurity has a leadership vacuum that needs addressing. • Compliance does not equate to security; it's often just theater. • Organizations suffer from tool sprawl and lack of strategy. • Vendor hype can distort risk perception and lead to poor decisions. • Security leaders must communicate in business terms to gain support. • Proactive security measures can prevent costly breaches. • Understanding the business is crucial for effective cybersecurity leadership. • Cybersecurity can be a revenue-generating function if aligned with business goals. • Leverage existing tools before chasing new ones. • Focus on redesigning critical processes for better security outcomes. Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. What is the Zero Trust Forum about?  It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/

    39 min
  5. From Scotland to Silicon Valley: Den Jones' Journey

    10/27/2025

    From Scotland to Silicon Valley: Den Jones' Journey

    In this episode, Den Jones shares his journey from Scotland to becoming a prominent figure in cybersecurity, discussing the evolving role of the CISO, the skills gap, and the importance of accountability. He emphasizes the need for effective communication with executives and the challenges posed by legacy systems. Den also reflects on leadership lessons learned from past mistakes and provides insights into implementing Zero Trust strategies. The conversation concludes with advice for aspiring leaders and a light-hearted discussion about food. Key Takeaways: • Den Jones shares his journey from Scotland to the US. • The role of the CISO has evolved significantly in recent years. • CISOs face increasing accountability and regulatory pressures. • There is a skills gap in cybersecurity, often due to employer expectations. • Legacy systems pose significant challenges for security teams. • Effective communication with executives is crucial for success. • Celebrating small wins can motivate teams and improve morale. • Zero Trust implementation requires understanding the audience's needs. • Leadership involves learning from mistakes and seeking mentorship. • The future of the CISO role may involve blending with CIO responsibilities. Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. What is the Zero Trust Forum about?  It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/

    51 min
  6. Navigating the Zero Trust Landscape with Jerry Chapman

    10/14/2025

    Navigating the Zero Trust Landscape with Jerry Chapman

    In this episode, Jaye and John welcome Jerry Chapman, a leading expert in Zero Trust security. They discuss Jerry's journey into cybersecurity, the misconceptions surrounding Zero Trust, and the importance of understanding it as a journey rather than a one-time project. Jerry shares insights on the Zero Trust blueprint, which consists of four phases: readiness, assessment, strategy, and metrics. The conversation also delves into the challenges organizations face in implementing Zero Trust, the significance of user experience, and the need for continuous iteration and learning. Jerry emphasizes that data and application security are often the weakest areas in organizations and highlights the importance of evaluating current capabilities to start the Zero Trust journey effectively. Key Takeaways: • Zero Trust is a journey, not a one-time project. • Misconceptions about Zero Trust often focus on technology rather than process. • Organizations need to assess their readiness for Zero Trust implementation. • The Zero Trust blueprint consists of four phases: readiness, assessment, strategy, and metrics. • Understanding business assets and protect surfaces is crucial for Zero Trust. • Data and application security are often the weakest areas in organizations. • Organizations can start their Zero Trust journey without having everything in place. • User experience is critical in the adoption of Zero Trust principles. • Metrics for success in Zero Trust implementation can be challenging to define. • Continuous iteration and learning from customer interactions are essential for improving the Zero Trust framework. Follow & Subscribe on all Podcast platforms. What is the Zero Trust Forum about?  It’s about empowering zero trust security professionals with strategies, architecture, and real world journeys to secure the digital future, the right way! Follow the Zero Trust Forum on LinkedIn www.linkedin.com/company/zero-trust-forum/. Follow Jaye Tillson on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/jaye-tillson/ Follow John Spiegel on LinkedIn - www.linkedin.com/in/john-spiegel-2011543/

    48 min

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Listen to experts discuss the latest in Zero Trust security on our podcast! Explore topics like adaptive access control, data protection, and insider threat mitigation. Stay informed about Zero Trust architecture, best practices, and real-world case studies to enhance your cybersecurity strategy. Tune in for insights and advice on building a resilient, secure infrastructure.

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