Frankly Speaking - A Podcast on Responsible Business

Frank Bold

Frankly Speaking is a double award-winning podcast on responsible business by Frank Bold - discussing the latest political, legal and business developments in the field of ESG, business and human rights and corporate reporting. Host Richard Howitt is a pioneer in the field of corporate disclosure and former Member of the European Parliament. He speaks frankly and personally about what moves policy makers, business and activists to make responsible business the norm and last but not least - redefine business!

  1. Oct 7

    #122 What China’s New Security Regulations Mean for EU Sustainability Laws

    What do China’s new supply chain security and counter-extraterritoriality rules mean for European companies trying to conduct human rights and environmental due diligence?  In this episode of the Frankly Speaking podcast, Richard Howitt was joined by Katja Drinhausen, Head of Programme Politics and Society at the Mercator Institute for China Studies (MERICS).  Together they discuss China’s new regulations on supply chain security and countering the undue exercise of extraterritorial jurisdiction, and what they could mean for European and other international companies carrying out human rights and environmental due diligence in the country. You’ll also hear more about:  The growing tension between Chinese regulations and European and US requirements on forced labour and supply chain due diligence  How the new rules could make it harder for companies to gather information and conduct audits in Chinese supply chains  How China’s approach to ESG and social responsibility differs from European approaches, particularly when it comes to human rights, independent oversight and civil society participation  Whether Chinese due diligence and sustainability initiatives can provide alternatives to international tools and standards  Katja’s advice to companies on how they can continue conducting responsible due diligence in China while also protecting both workers and those carrying out investigations  Listen in and follow us on LinkedIn and Youtube!

  2. Sep 23

    #121 Julia Otten & Amandine Van Den Berghe: Environmental Due Diligence in the CSDDD - What's Next?

    The EU’s Corporate Sustainability Due Diligence Directive (CSDDD) has moved from political negotiations to the next critical phase: implementation. But what does meaningful implementation actually look like? In this episode of Frankly Speaking, Richard Howitt was joined by Julia Otten, Senior Policy Officer at Frank Bold, and Amandine Van Den Berghe, Senior Lawyer specialising in value chains, trade and investment at ClientEarth. Together they discussed their new joint publication “Corporate Environmental Due Diligence and Reporting in the EU,” which aims to support Members States in transposing the CSDDD in the most effective manner. You’ll also hear about: The gaps in the Directive’s definition of environmental impacts, and why companies should consider the wider international standards on environmental due diligenceMeaningful engagement with suppliers and affected stakeholders representing a cornerstone of effective due diligenceWhat the removal of climate transition plan requirements from the CSDDD means for companiesThe issue of the principle of non-regression, and what it may mean for the DirectiveWhat recent climate litigation in France, the Netherlands and Germany could mean for companies’ responsibilities for emissions across their value chainsWhat companies can do to already get ahead of the curve on CSDDD transposition Listen in and follow us on LinkedIn and Youtube!

  3. Aug 26

    #118 Companies Putting the “Meaningful” into Meaningful Stakeholder Engagement: Danny Miles and Dr Wilson Odiyo

    What does effective Meaningful Stakeholder Engagement (MSE) look like in the food and agriculture sector? In this episode of Frankly Speaking, Richard Howitt was joined by Danny Miles, Head of Collective Action at the Ethical Trading Initiative, as well as Dr Wilson Odiyo, Corporate Affairs Director for Eastern Produce Regional Services (EPRS), a consultancy based in Kenya with expertise in agro-economics, providing technical support, marketing and logistics to agricultural producers in eastern and southern Africa, and one of ETI’s company members. Together they discussed ETI’s recently developed guidance on MSE for the food and agriculture industry alongside an alliance of organisations (Amfori, FLA, Oxfam Sweden amongst others), as well as EPRS’s experience in implementing it. You’ll also hear about: How ETI advises its agricultural member companies to address problems of gender-based violence in supply chains through its GAIA programme (Gender Action in Agriculture) – and what EPRS has done in practiceThe actions taken by EPRS to tackle the new issues already caused by climate change, from the outbreak of new pests and diseases to water scarcityETI’s contribution to the EU Commission’s recently closed open public consultation on guidelines on the Corporate Sustainability Due Diligence Directive (CSDDD)Dr Wilson Odiyo’s message to EU policymakers on the importance of understanding contextual differences in the way labour is organized across the world in its legislationHow system change can become a realityThe key elements of ETI’s strategy until 2030 Listen in and follow us on LinkedIn and Youtube!

  4. Jul 29

    #117 How Businesses Can Combat Modern Slavery: Professor John Dumay

    Can businesses really tackle the pervasive issue of modern slavery?  In this episode of Frankly Speaking, Richard Howitt was joined by an expert in the field, Johannes Dumay, Professor in accounting at Macquarie University, Sydney, and multi-award-winning researcher on modern slavery as well as sustainability accounting and reporting.  Together they discussed how corporate attitudes towards modern slavery have (and haven't!) evolved over the past decade, as well as what the increasing number of court cases on the issue mean for the future of companies’ responsibility and duty of care in their supply chains. You’ll also hear about:  John's verdict on whether legal requirements on companies in relation to modern slavery, from the UK to Australia, have actually been effective   Why companies having more of a risk management culture rather than a due diligence culture is preventing them from effectively identifying and remediate modern slavery  To what extent the EU Forced Labour Regulation will be able to meet its objective of eliminating forced labour from supply chains   What the glove manufacturer Ansell gets right in its modern slavery report  The potential future of modern slavery legislation: companies having to demonstrate the modern slavery is not in their supply chains if they are based in high-risk areas   Why John has changed his mind on boycotting the chocolate industry altogether  Listen in and follow us on LinkedIn and Youtube!

  5. Jul 22

    #116 Simon Rawson: Is Inequality a Risk to Business? Inside the TISFD Framework

    The Taskforce on Inequality and Social-related Financial Disclosures (TISFD) wants to do for social issues what the TCFD did for climate a decade ago: harness capital markets to drive corporate action, this time on inequality and people-related risk.  With its beta framework now open for public consultation (deadline 31 July 2026), host Richard Howitt sits down with TISFD Executive Director Simon Rawson to ask the hard questions: Can financial value really be assigned to fundamental human rights?  Does the framework take a single or double materiality approach? With regulators like the ISSB and the EU (through CSRD/ESRS) seemingly retreating from ambitious social reporting requirements, is TISFD swimming against the tide? Rawson explains how the framework builds on (rather than duplicates) existing initiatives like the World Benchmarking Alliance, GRI, and Social Value International, and why the taskforce insists that human rights, social capital, and wellbeing paradigms must operate side by side rather than substitute for one another. He also shares which companies (including Coca-Cola and Airbus) have already joined the TISFD alliance, how a market-led approach helped TCFD win its case for climate disclosure, and what he learned from his own career path (from British diplomat in Pakistan to NGO campaigner to task force leader) about what's really at stake for informal and vulnerable workers on the ground. Listen to this conversation about whether business can be convinced that people, not just the planet, belong on the balance sheet of risk.

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Frankly Speaking is a double award-winning podcast on responsible business by Frank Bold - discussing the latest political, legal and business developments in the field of ESG, business and human rights and corporate reporting. Host Richard Howitt is a pioneer in the field of corporate disclosure and former Member of the European Parliament. He speaks frankly and personally about what moves policy makers, business and activists to make responsible business the norm and last but not least - redefine business!

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