Building Wins LIVE!

Randy Chaffee

Weekly live sales-oriented audio/video podcast directed toward the sales, marketing, roofing, and post-frame building industry.

  1. 1d ago

    Ben Gay III | 09072026

    Guest: Ben Gay III Host: Randy Chaffee Producer / Director / Co-Host: Wes Wyatt 📌 Episode Overview & Intro ChatShow Intro & Friendship:Randy and Wes welcome back long-time friend and mentor Ben Gay III for what marks his 9th or 10th appearance on the show.Health and Gratitude: Ben playfully ribs Randy for describing Wes's past medical emergency as a mere "health scare." Wes shares that he received a clean bill of health at his doctor's appointment that day, allowing him to step down some medications after surviving two massive heart attacks, a brain bleed, stroke, and a 57-day hospital stay.Upcoming Celebration: Wes and Randy look forward to breaking bread again in December for the wedding of Wes's daughter, Carson, with Ben invited to join in spirit while keeping an eye on a Pittsburgh game. 📘 Welcoming The Closers – Part 7Arrival of the New Book:The primary celebration of the episode is the official release of The Closers – Part 7, co-authored by Randy Chaffee, featuring a foreword written by Wes Wyatt, and published as part of Ben Gay III's legendary sales series.Ben received his copy in the mail and praised the cover design and execution by Victoria and Richard Wolff, noting it stays true to the iconic "Blue Book of Sales" heritage while giving it a crisp, modern aesthetic.The Running Joke on "Foreword":Ben and Randy reminisce about spelling lessons. Ben famously left "forward" misspelled as an inside joke in the original The Closers – Part 1 after selling over 10.5 million copies.When Randy asked Ben to write the foreword for his earlier book, Asphalt and Algorithms, Ben agreed on one condition: make sure it is spelled F-O-R-E-W-O-R-D. Wes made sure to get the spelling right for Part 7. ✈️ Attention to Detail: The Learjet Photo ShootThe High Cost of Missed Details:Ben shares an embarrassing, humorous story from his days running a company with a flight school and a fleet of 40 aircraft, including a private Learjet.Publicity photographers staged a shoot of him dashing out of the jet in aviator glasses, trench coat over his shoulder, and briefcase in hand to look like a high-powered executive on the run.The Blunders: When the magazine published the photo, pilot friends immediately called out the obvious staging: The engine dust plugs were still firmly in place.The wheel chocks had not been removed.The sunscreens were still up in the cockpit window.There was no pilot sitting in the cockpit. The Sales Lesson:In sales, as in staged photo shoots, it is rarely the massive concepts that sink you; it is the overlooked little details that ruin your credibility.Ben also cautions modern "gurus" against posing in front of private planes without blurring the tail numbers, which can easily be looked up to expose that the plane is a rental. 🎪 Mastering Trade Shows as a "Sales Infiltrator"Beyond the Trade Show Booth:The Closers – Part 7 focuses on working trade shows and conventions not as static events, but as high-leverage relationship-building platforms.Randy and Ben reflect on the early mistakes salespeople make: showing up, setting out brochures and pens on a skirted folding table, and waiting around while playing on their phones.Randy emphasizes: "The end of the trade show to the casual observer is just the beginning of the trade show." The real business follows in the execution and relationships nurtured afterward.The Strategy of "Sales Infiltration":Ben links Randy’s methods directly to the final chapter of The Closers – Part 2 titled "Sales Infiltration."Real connections happen outside booth hours: having coffee at 6:00 AM in the hotel lobby, attending product demos to see who is watching, introducing yourself during educational sessions, and mingling at the host hotel bar.Ben's Speaking Routine: When giving keynotes, Ben is always the first person in the room (introducing himself to the hotel setup staff) and the last to leave (waiting until the vacuum cleaner starts running) because the highest-value interactions occur before and after the speech.The "Bill" Story:Randy recounts an interaction with an exhibitor named "Bill" who complained that a show had terrible foot traffic.When pressed, Bill admitted he had sent out no advance invites, used no free passes, posted nothing on social media, and pre-booked zero appointments. Randy gave him blunt feedback: the fault was not the venue, the weather, or the foot traffic; the fault lay entirely in Bill's lack of preparation. 🌟 Mentorship, Inspiration, & Upcoming BooksDolly Parton's Relational Genius:Ben highlights Dolly Parton as the ultimate real-world model of relationship building. Beyond her musical talent, everyone who ever interacted with her felt like they were the only person in the room. He notes that mastering that level of genuine personal connection is the real secret to sales infiltration.The Historic Zig Ziglar Contest:Ben and Randy recall the legendary year-long sales competition between Ben and Zig Ziglar when they both joined Holiday Magic Cosmetics.While Zig took time to celebrate what he believed was an insurmountable lead, Ben kept making sales calls right up to the final wire, edging out Zig to win the company presidency.Wes Wyatt's Upcoming Book Projects:The group highlights Wes's foreword in Part 7 and previews his two forthcoming book releases: Market YOU First!: A core business and personal branding volume rooted in his long-time philosophy.Are You Ready To Go?: A personal and spiritual volume drawing from his recovery, life perspective, and purpose. 🎙️ Closing ReflectionsAvailability:The Closers – Part 7 is officially available on Amazon in hardcover, paperback, and ebook formats.The True Scoreboard:While revenue and sales numbers track performance, Ben and Randy agree that the ultimate reward after decades in business is hearing from salespeople whose careers and lives were permanently turned around by the principles shared in these books. 💡 Key Takeaway"Trade shows and sales calls are not passive spectator events. Don't just show up and hand out brochures. Infiltrate the entire event, master the small details, pre-book your appointments, and focus on building genuine, long-term relationships before, during, and long after the floor closes." Ben Gay: https://stores.ebay.com/ronzonebooks https://www.linkedin.com/in/bengayiii/ Randy Chaffee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/randychaffee/ https://www.facebook.com/therandychaffee https://www.sourceonemarketingllc.com https://www.buildingwins.live Wes Wyatt: https://www.weswyatt.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/weswyatt/ https://www.facebook.com/weswyatt/

    Ben Gay III | 09072026
  2. Aug 31

    Ian Selbie | 08312026

    Guest: Ian Selbie of Sales Look Host: Randy Chaffee Producer / Director / Co-Host: Wes Wyatt 📌 Episode Overview & Intro ChatShow Intro & Catching Up:Randy and Wes kick off the show with their signature banter, celebrating Wes's six-month clean bill of health following his heart appointment.Randy jokes about wearing wild, loud socks to upcoming events (including Wes's daughter Carson's wedding).Welcoming Ian Selbie:Ian Selbie returns to the show to announce and detail the upcoming Sales Look Open.Ian is an internationally recognized sales coach and trainer who has trained over 17,000 professionals across eight countries, authored multiple sales books, and built the pipeline management platform Sales Look. 💼 The Problem with Traditional CRMs: "Cash Runaway Monsters"Handcuffed to the Desk:Having coached thousands of reps globally, Ian consistently heard one primary complaint: traditional CRMs take too long to update, turning salespeople into data-entry clerks for management.Ian jokingly redefines CRM as a "Cash Runaway Monster"—an overly complex tool designed for accountants and executives that robs sales reps of selling time.The Sales Look Difference:Built by Salespeople for Salespeople: Designed around two core principles: Freedom (letting reps nurture relationships) and Focus (giving a clear visual pipeline at a glance).7-Second Deal Entry: Entering an opportunity takes seconds compared to 5 to 10 minutes in legacy software, giving reps 25% to 30% of their day back to prospect and close deals.Leaderboard & Team Roll-Up: Managers get a high-level visual team dashboard and pulse reports to track pipeline velocity, evaluate line-of-business mix, and provide targeted coaching without bogging reps down in paperwork. 📊 Visual Pipeline Management & Multi-Line Rep CapabilitiesColor-Coded Stages & Product Mix:Ian's methodology organizes deals across clear stages: Interested, Discovered, Qualified, Selected, and Closed.Opportunities can be color-coded to represent product categories (e.g., insurance vs. investments) or specific manufacturers/brands.Perfect for Multi-Manufacturer Rep Agencies:Randy and Ian discuss how independent rep agencies manage dozens of brands at different stages with the same client.Sales Look allows reps to quickly filter by brand/color on their phone before walking into a meeting, ensuring they cross-sell underrepresented product lines rather than leaving money on the table.Includes built-in spreadsheet importing to automatically inhale existing client contact lists. 🏆 The "Sales Look Open" & Pipeline WednesdaysWhat is the Sales Look Open?A completely free, 30-day program kicking off September 16th at 8:00 AM Pacific / 11:00 AM Eastern designed to accelerate pipeline growth for reps and entrepreneurs ($1,500 total value).Program Components: 1-Hour Kickoff Workshop (via Zoom): Covers lead qualification, visual pipeline strategy, sales planning, and the mechanics of "Pipeline Wednesday."Two Gamified "Pipeline Wednesday" Blitzes: High-energy, three-hour call sessions spaced two weeks apart. Reps text in logged calls and booked meetings to a real-time leaderboard. (Ian notes a prior 8-person team generated a $70M pipeline in six months using this exact sprint method).30 Days of Free Access to Sales Look: Complete access to the software with integrated training modules. Pricing After Trial:Affordable month-to-month access at $49.95/month per user (or 12 months for the price of 11 on annual plans), with full data export options at any time.Registration is available at saleslook.com/saleslookopen. 🎙️ Closing & Should-Ask Question (SAQ)The SAQ (Should-Ask Question):Question Ian wishes more people would ask: "How do I truly up my sales game right now?"Ian's 4-Step Framework: Call High: Always target the true decision-maker first.Find the Pain: Uncover the core business problem they want to solve.Bring the Gain: Deliver the exact solution or valuable connection that fixes that pain.Do It Again and Again: Execute with relentless consistency. 💡 Key Takeaway"A CRM should provide freedom and focus, not handcuffs. Simplify your pipeline tracking so you spend less time entering data and more time calling high, solving customer pain, and closing deals." Ian Selbie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ian-selbie-09883716 Sales Look: https://www.saleslook.com/ Randy Chaffee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/randychaffee/ https://www.facebook.com/therandychaffee https://www.sourceonemarketingllc.com https://www.buildingwins.live Wes Wyatt: https://www.weswyatt.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/weswyatt/ https://www.facebook.com/weswyatt/

    Ian Selbie | 08312026
  3. Aug 24

    Shield Wall Media | 08242026

    Guest: Gary Reichert and Karen Knapstein Host: Randy Chaffee Producer / Director / Co-Host: Wes Wyatt 📌 Episode Overview & Intro ChatShow Intro & Banter:Randy Chaffee and Wes Wyatt open the show with lighthearted banter about being only children who became "brothers" in business, along with playful jokes about Randy’s affinity for show-floor chocolate candy (specifically Snickers, Heath bars, and Dairy Queen Blizzards).Welcoming Shield Wall Media:Randy welcomes back long-time industry collaborators and friends of the show, Gary Reichert and Karen Knapstein from Shield Wall Media, to preview the upcoming Construction Roll Forming Show in Gatlinburg, Tennessee. 🏗️ The Construction Roll Forming Show (Gatlinburg, TN)Dates & Location:When: September 16–17.Where: Gatlinburg Convention Center, Gatlinburg, TN (Gateway to the Great Smoky Mountains / Pigeon Forge area).Family-Friendly / Walkable Destination: Karen and Gary highlight that downtown Gatlinburg is fully walkable, with trolley service available, making it easy for exhibitors and attendees to turn the trade show into an extended family vacation. Nearby partner hotels include Black Bear Inn & Suites (directly adjacent to the center) and Glenstone Lodge (featuring an indoor pool and family play area).What Makes the Show Unique:Exclusively Construction-Focused: Unlike massive industrial metal-forming expos that cater to automotive or high-speed manufacturing, this show is dedicated strictly to roll forming and light-gauge metal forming for the low-rise construction industry.Decision-Makers & High-Volume Buyers: Geared toward the people who "sign the front of the check, not the back." Attendees include component distributors, regional roll formers, and builders buying fasteners, trims, sealants, and coils by the pallet, container, or truckload.The "Tipping Point" for Builders: It serves as the ideal venue for roofing contractors and builders who are considering whether they buy enough volume to start manufacturing and roll-forming their own panels and trims in-house rather than outsourcing to a supplier. 📰 Shield Wall Media's Trade Publications7 Niche Construction Magazines:Rural Builder (Legacy publication serving the industry since 1967).Metal Roofing Magazine (25+ years covering installers and fabricators).Rollforming Magazine (Dedicated companion publication to the trade show).Frame Building News, Metal Builder, Roofing Elements, and Garage, Shed & Carport Builder.Free Industry Subscriptions:All digital and print subscriptions are free for industry professionals via shieldwallmedia.com, allowing builders, fabricators, and suppliers to stay up to date on market trends across regions.New Book Release:The show will feature the launch of the third book in their educational construction series: Max Builds a Barndominium. 🤝 Networking, Panels, & Relationship-BuildingBeyond the Trade Show Booth:Gary and Randy emphasize that the true value of trade shows happens outside traditional booth pitches—during continental breakfasts, educational seminars, and the Wednesday evening social.Meeting peers informally sparks out-of-the-box business solutions and builds long-term industry relationships that carry over from year to year.Interactive Panel Discussions:Randy and the Shield Wall team discuss the annual live Q&A panel. Rather than formal lectures, the sessions are designed as open, conversational forums.Asking the "Dumb" Questions: Wes, Gary, and Randy note that if one person in an audience has a question, at least 20 others are wondering the exact same thing. Addressing audience questions openly creates practical, actionable takeaways for everyone in the room. 🎙️ Closing & Should-Ask Question (SAQ)The SAQ (Should-Ask Question):Question Karen wishes people would ask about the show: "Who should attend, and what will I gain from being there?"Karen's Answer: Anyone who manufactures metal panels/trims for low-rise construction—or any contractor looking into the economics of expanding into roll-forming their own components—needs to be in the room to learn directly from component suppliers, machine manufacturers, and peers. 💡 Key Takeaway"Trade shows are about far more than handing out business cards at a booth. Real industry growth happens when you get the decision-makers in the same room, ask the questions everyone is thinking, and build relationships that outlast the weekend." Gary Reichert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gary-reichert-35826515/ Karen Knapstein https://www.linkedin.com/in/karen-knapstein-75a81622/ Shield Wall Media: https://shieldwallmedia.com/ Construction Rollforming Show: https://constructionrollformingshow.com Randy Chaffee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/randychaffee/ https://www.facebook.com/therandychaffee https://www.sourceonemarketingllc.com https://www.buildingwins.live Wes Wyatt: https://www.weswyatt.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/weswyatt/ https://www.facebook.com/weswyatt/

    Shield Wall Media | 08242026
  4. Aug 17

    Andrew Boyle | 08172026

    Guest: Andrew Boyle of Making Sheds Simple Host: Randy Chaffee Producer / Director / Co-Host: Wes Wyatt 📌 Episode Overview & Intro ChatShow Intro & Banter:Randy Chaffee and Wes Wyatt kick off the show discussing late-night work ethics, road trips to Columbus, and the shared mission to "make people happy."Randy introduces guest Andrew Boyle, whom he saw speak in York, PA, following his own keynote, noting how impressed he was with Andrew's stage presence and his team in their signature bright yellow shirts.Introducing Andrew Boyle:Andrew Boyle is a shed industry leader, entrepreneur, speaker, and founder across several brands under the "Simple" umbrella, including Simple RTO and MakingShedsSimple.com. 🏗️ From 27 Furniture Stores to Shed Industry LeadersThe Early Start & The Big Pivot:Andrew entered the shed business in 2014 after buying an existing shed lot adjacent to a furniture store he operated, starting their first Rent-To-Own (RTO) portfolio with a modest $50,000 loan.They expanded aggressively into retail furniture, scaling to 27 franchise stores across 3 states with 150 employees.When their parent franchise company unexpectedly went bankrupt, they were forced to liquidate everything within 90 days, losing the stores overnight.Relaunching into the Shed Business:During that low point, Andrew's nephews began building backyard sheds from YouTube tutorials, which led to a late-night drive to acquire a manufacturing plant.Today, Andrew's brother Peter runs their manufacturing facility in North Florida (servicing the entire state), while Andrew runs the nationwide RTO company and training programs. 🟡 The S.I.M.P.L.E. Core FrameworkFrustrated by the heavy, restrictive red tape of the corporate franchise world, Andrew and his team built their entire business philosophy around the acronym S.I.M.P.L.E.: S – Stop Selling, Solve Problems: Focus on helping the customer resolve their pain point rather than forcing a pitch.I – Ignore the Numbers: Prioritize doing the right thing for people; sustainable revenue and profits naturally follow.M – Misfits Win: Stand out in a crowded world by being authentic (exemplified by their bold yellow shirts and genuine style).P – Proverbs Principle: Based on Proverbs 22:1 ("A good name is rather to be chosen than great riches").L – Leave Memories: Customers quickly forget basic transactions, but they always remember remarkable experiences.E – Embarrass Yourself: Fear of failure and embarrassment kill creativity. Step out of your comfort zone, try new marketing channels, and don't be afraid of bloopers or making mistakes. 🤝 Customer-Centric Operations & The "It Could" PhilosophyFrictionless Buying (The Grocery Line Analogy):Andrew compares shed buyers to grocery shoppers: they take their time carefully picking the product (like selecting the best apples/oranges), but at checkout, they expect the line to be fast.Simple RTO focuses on streamlining paperwork and technology to make buying a shed faster and easier than renting a mini-storage unit.Avoiding Rigid "Policy" Traps:Randy and Andrew critique companies that create massive, anti-customer policies based on a single past negative incident.Instead of defaulting to "That's against our policy," great businesses look for ways to say "It could" and go to bat for the customer, making them feel like a hero who won.Jesse Cole / Savannah Bananas Model:Andrew references Jesse Cole’s "Fans First" mentality—eliminating nickel-and-dime fees, over-delivering value, and creating memorable moments that turn one-time buyers into lifelong brand advocates. 🤖 AI & The Adaptive MindsetEmbracing Modern Tech:Andrew and Randy discuss how AI and automated bots have accelerated basic workflows (booking flights, automating forms, drafting content).Andrew emphasizes: "You’re not going to lose your job to AI; you’ll lose your job to someone who knows how to use AI."Consistency Over Creativity:A single post, postcard, or tool change won't transform a business overnight. Long-term market dominance comes from consistent daily execution, advertising, and a willingness to continuously adapt. 🎙️ Industry Events & Should-Ask Question (SAQ)Upcoming Industry Gatherings:Shed Sales Summit: Held annually in September in Knoxville, TN (ShedSalesSummit.com), focusing on sales training and growth.National Shed Show: Launching in February in Daytona Beach, FL—featuring vendors, networking, education, and community-building events.The SAQ (Should-Ask Question):Question Andrew wishes more people would ask: "How do I become better?"Andrew's Answer: Don't let fear of embarrassment or rejection stop you from asking competitors, leaders, or peers for guidance. Most people in the trades genuinely care and are willing to share what worked for them if you simply ask for help. 💡 Key Takeaway"Business doesn't have to be complicated. Strip away the red tape, embrace being a 'misfit,' prioritize memorable customer experiences over rigid policies, and never be too proud to ask others, 'How do I become better?'" Making Sheds Simple: https://makingshedssimple.com/ Randy Chaffee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/randychaffee/ https://www.facebook.com/therandychaffee https://www.sourceonemarketingllc.com https://www.buildingwins.live Wes Wyatt: https://www.weswyatt.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/weswyatt/ https://www.facebook.com/weswyatt/

    Andrew Boyle | 08172026
  5. Aug 10

    Alec Walker | 08102026

    Guest: Alec Walker of Window Supply LLC. Host: Randy Chaffee Producer / Director / Co-Host: Wes Wyatt 📌 Episode Overview & Intro ChatShow Intro & Banter:Hosts Randy Chaffee and Wes Wyatt kick off the show with their usual lighthearted banter, poking fun at beard colors and past memories meeting up in New Greenland.Focusing Back on the Industry: Randy introduces the episode as a direct deep-dive into the building products and manufacturing industry, bringing on a long-time partner and client.Introducing Alec Walker:Alec Walker is the President of Window Supply, a premier window and door manufacturer/wholesaler based out of New Albany, Indiana (just across the river from Louisville, KY).Randy and Wes have represented and worked alongside Window Supply since the company’s inception. 🪟 The Window Supply Business Model: "It Could"Listening to the Customer & Reps:Window Supply built its business model by actively gathering feedback from sales reps and builder-customers to identify gaps left by traditional window suppliers.Rather than giving immediate "no's" to unique customer requests, Window Supply adopts a flexible, problem-solving mindset—evaluating custom requests to see if they can make it work ("It could").The Three Pillars (Price, Quality, Service):Industry Lead Times: Traditional window orders often take 4 to 8 weeks. Window Supply solves this by maintaining a massive inventory of core "big mover" stock items.2-Day Shipping Goal: For standard stock orders, their target is to have products loaded on a truck heading to the customer within two business days of order placement.Delivered Pallet Pricing: Pricing is structured per pallet with delivered freight costs included (across their primary 12–15 state trading territory), giving builders and distributors upfront cost clarity. 📐 Core Product Lines & OfferingsStocked Inventory (Post-Frame & Shed Windows):Colors: White and Black vinyl frames.Styles: Horizontal sliders (3x2, 3x3, 4x3, 4x4) and single-hung vertical sliders (2x3, 3x3, 3x4, 3x5) with grid options.Transom Windows: Stocked in 72" x 24" and newly added 60" x 24" sizes (designed specifically to fit standard post-frame spacing to let in high natural light safely).Order Flexibility:Options range from single-pallet quick-ships to full, mixed truckload orders (white, black, grids, transoms combined) delivered in roughly 3 to 4 weeks.Expanding Line: Barndominiums & Walk Doors:Higher-End Residential Windows: To serve the booming "Barndominium" market, Window Supply offers double-hung and single-hung residential-grade vinyl windows with higher insulation ratings for living quarters.Walk Doors: Expanded into solid steel-frame walk doors (flush, half-lite, 9-lite in white/black) to provide builders with a single-source "one-stop-shop" for both window and door packages. 🤝 Customer-First Policy & Service PhilosophyCustomer-Centric Problem Solving:Alec and Randy emphasize that strict, rigid corporate policies often hurt customer relationships.When an issue occurs (shipping damage, job site changes), Window Supply's rule is to resolve the customer's problem first and worry about internal logistics or fault later.If a specific request isn't possible, they always provide alternative solutions ("I can't do X, but here is what I can do for you"). 🎙️ Closing & Should-Ask Question (SAQ)The SAQ (Should-Ask Question):Question Alec wishes prospective clients would ask: "Why Window Supply? What is your core business model?"Alec's Answer: It gives the team a chance to highlight how they differentiate themselves—balancing aggressive pricing and high quality with industry-leading 2-day lead times and relentless customer support. 💡 Key Takeaway"In the building industry, lead times and service make or break a job. Build your business by listening to your customers, keeping inventory ready to ship in days rather than weeks, and putting customer resolution ahead of rigid corporate policy." Alec Walker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alec-m-walker/ Window Supply LLC. Randy Chaffee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/randychaffee/ https://www.facebook.com/therandychaffee https://www.sourceonemarketingllc.com https://www.buildingwins.live Wes Wyatt: https://www.weswyatt.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/weswyatt/ https://www.facebook.com/weswyatt/

    Alec Walker | 08102026
  6. Aug 3

    Hugh Hornsby | 08032026

    Guest: Hugh Hornsby Host: Randy Chaffee Producer / Director / Co-Host: Wes Wyatt 📌 Episode Overview & Intro ChatShow Intro & Friendship:Randy and Wes welcome long-time friend and trades industry advocate Hugh Hornsby back to the show after catching up over dinner a few weeks prior.Lighthearted Stand-Up Comedy Story: Randy teases Hugh about a photo of him performing comedy at the West Side Comedy Club in New York City, dressed in a country flannel shirt and cowboy boots.Overcoming Stage 4 Cancer:Hugh opens up about his health journey. Diagnosed two and a half years prior with what was initially thought to be Stage 4 prostate cancer, it was later reclassified as Stage 3A.He is now cancer-free. During his treatments, Hugh used humor to bring smiles to fellow patients and used the life-altering experience not as an "end," but as a new beginning to pursue passions like comedy and writing. 💡 The Story Behind "Blue Collar Smart"Early Adversity & Mindset:At age 10, Hugh fell off a swing set and was diagnosed with epilepsy.His mother played a pivotal role in shaping his mindset, telling him: "Never let anybody hold you back, especially yourself." She routinely placed inspirational "underdog" books on his bed to build his resilience.Defining "Blue Collar Smart":Struggling with traditional academics like math and English, Hugh realized his strength was his ability to overcome obstacles, adapt, and out-hustle challenges—a quality he coined "Blue Collar Smart."Building Underdog Teams:Throughout his career, Hugh specialized in turning around underperforming divisions (overhauling 10+ business divisions) and launching initiatives by hiring for potential over resumes.Examples include turning a college fraternity of "misfits" into the campus's largest chapter in two years, and helping grow plumbing/HVAC supply manufacturer Everflow from $65M to $155M in three and a half years. 🛠️ Blue Collar Smart Podcast & Upcoming BookThe Blue Collar Smart Podcast:Focus: Highlighting stories of grit and resilience from people across the trades—ranging from "the guy turning the wrench to the guy ringing the bell on Wall Street."Featured Guests: High-profile "underdogs" and leaders, including Dave Sanderson (the last passenger off US Airways Flight 1549 in the "Miracle on the Hudson") and John Register (Paralympic silver medalist and motivational speaker).Release Schedule: Drops every Thursday across all major podcast syndication networks and at hughhornsby.com.The Upcoming Book:Full Title: Blue Collar Smart, Built Different: Underdog Proven, Trades Tested.Core Message: Promoting the skilled trades as a premier career path and exposing the hidden entrepreneurial wealth inside the industry. Hugh offers a free first chapter to listeners who reach out via his website. 🤝 Systems vs. People & The Trades Industry ShiftMarrying Systems with Relationships:Hugh and Randy discuss how systems create personal and operational freedom.Systems provide discipline and prevent leaders from "being busy being busy," but they must be paired with genuine personal relationships ("Street Smart vs. Corporate Smart").Adaptability: Systems aren't rigid; leaders must tweak and adapt their systems when unexpected disruptions occur (such as during COVID-19).Elevating the Trades:Hugh notes that private equity is entering the trades in a big way, bringing structured corporate systems to family-owned businesses.Highlighting data from the PHCC (Plumbing-Heating-Cooling Contractors Association), Hugh mentions the average age of newcomers entering the trades is now around 25.He advocates for building strong leadership, financial literacy, and entrepreneurial ownership within the blue-collar sector so reps can build lasting personal wealth. 🎙️ Closing & Should-Ask Question (SAQ)The SAQ (Should-Ask Question):Question Hugh wishes more people would ask: "Will you help mentor me?"Hugh urges people to stop trying to figure out everything alone. Find someone who has achieved what you want to achieve, reach out, and ask them to mentor you. Most successful veterans are eager to give back.Final Mindset Advice (Be, Do, Have):"Start acting like the person you want to become today." If you want to change your life, start embodying the mindset, habits, and attire of that future version of yourself right now. 💡 Key Takeaway"Systems create freedom, but people drive growth. Don't let your past or lack of traditional smarts hold you back—invest in yourself, embrace being 'built different,' and never be afraid to ask a mentor for help." Hugh Horsby: https://www.hughhornsby.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/hugh-hornsby-51986b10/ Randy Chaffee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/randychaffee/ https://www.facebook.com/therandychaffee https://www.sourceonemarketingllc.com https://www.buildingwins.live Wes Wyatt: https://www.weswyatt.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/weswyatt/ https://www.facebook.com/wesawyatt/

    Hugh Hornsby | 08032026
  7. Jul 27

    James Buckley | 07272026

    Guests: James Buckley of 'Sell Better' Host: Randy Chaffee Producer / Director / Co-Host: Wes Wyatt 📌 Episode Overview & Intro ChatShow Intro & Updates:Hosts Randy Chaffee and Wes Wyatt kick off the show, catching up in person.Book Announcement: They publicly announce plans to publish a Building Wins book by the summer of 2027.Show Mantra: They recount a story from a hotel bar where Randy asked if a pie came with ice cream, and the waitress answered, "It could." That phrase—"It could"—has become their ongoing mantra.Introducing James Buckley:James Buckley (Host/Content Creator at Sell Better) joins the show.Personal Update: James shares a major health journey, having dropped from over 300 lbs down to ~250 lbs after a Type 2 diabetes diagnosis in his mid-40s. He highlights how sedentary inside sales roles can impact health and stresses the importance of changing lifestyle habits. 🛠️ James Buckley & Sell BetterWhat Sell Better Does:Runs the Daily Sales Show every day.Sponsors tech, services, and sales tactics to help SDRs, Account Executives, and sales leaders book more meetings, close deals, and forecast better.The Modern Sales Rep / Manager:James emphasizes that sales managers are rarely "just managers"—they act as player-coaches, joining calls, holding quotas, and sharpening their skills in real-time. 🤖 Deep-Dive into AI for Sales1. Shift in Mindset & Generational DifferencesAI Isn't Replacing You; It's Enhancing You: James points out that AI is a tool to amplify human performance, not eliminate reps. You won't be replaced by AI outright, but you will lose out on the leaderboard to peers who embrace it.Google vs. Prompting: Older generations tend to use AI like a standard Google search bar (asking basic, surface-level questions). Newer/younger workers treat AI (ChatGPT, Claude) as active partners—prompting it with specific ICP (Ideal Customer Profile) details, objection handling, and workflow automation. 2. Best Tools & Prompting StrategiesClaude vs. ChatGPT: While ChatGPT is great for personal use and basic queries, James prefers Claude for professional sales workflows due to its depth, context-window capabilities, and integration across email/CRM systems."Skills" and Rules in AI:AI to Learn AI: Don't wait for management to train you. Ask the AI directly: "I'm trying to accomplish X, how can you help me?"Creating Skills: Once the AI outlines a great process, tell it: "Let's make this a skill/rule." It saves it (e.g., as an .md file), allowing you to trigger that exact complex routine in the future using a simple slash command or shortcut.Whisper Flow (Dictation Tool):James demonstrates and strongly recommends Whisper Flow (a smart dictation tool).Unlike basic voice-to-text, it captures tone, auto-punctuates, formats paragraphs, removes stutters/pauses, and stays active as long as you hold the shortcut key.It drastically speeds up writing detailed prompts and cold outreach emails (e.g., dictating at 160+ WPM). ✉️ Maintaining Personalization & AuthenticityAI Outreach Doesn't Have to Be Generic:James shows a live example of an outreach email generated by Claude that referenced deep personal context (past interactions with a former CEO, shared event history).AI can pull from past CRM data to craft hyper-personalized messaging at scale.Keeping the "Human Touch":Always review and edit AI outputs—never blindly copy and paste.Train your AI on your specific voice/tone (e.g., telling it "I don't speak like that, remove clichéd phrases like 'it stopped me in my tracks'").Technology accelerates the heavy lifting, but the human remains responsible for polishing the message and building true rapport. 🎙️ Closing & Should-Ask Question (SAQ)Vibe Coding & Internal Tech: James notes a trend where companies are using tools like Lovable or custom LLM builds to recreate internal CRMs, saving hundreds of thousands of dollars over legacy platforms like Salesforce.The SAQ (Should-Ask Question):Question James wishes people asked him more: "What are your hobbies / what are you super passionate about?"James reveals he is a massive Tolkien/Lord of the Rings nerd (covered in Middle-Earth tattoos and part of the Tolkien Society).Key Sales Takeaway: Asking people about their actual passions outside of work creates deep, authentic human connections—which is the bedrock of building long-term business relationships. 💡 Key Takeaway"Don't ask if you should use AI—ask how you should use AI. Use AI to learn AI, set strict rules/skills to keep your personal voice intact, and let technology handle the tedious work so you can focus on building genuine relationships." James Buckley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamessaywhatsalesbuckley Sell Better: https://sellbetter.xyz/ Randy Chaffee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/randychaffee/ https://www.facebook.com/therandychaffee https://www.sourceonemarketingllc.com https://www.buildingwins.live Wes Wyatt: https://www.weswyatt.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/weswyatt/ https://www.facebook.com/wesawyatt/

    James Buckley | 07272026
  8. Jul 19

    Ian Selbie | 07192026 | Best Of #4

    People, Process, Performance: The Triad of Sales Excellence Guests: Ian Selbie of 'Sales Look' Host: Randy Chaffee Producer / Director / Co-Host: Wes Wyatt Episode Summary:Ian Selbie returns to Building Wins Live with host Randy Chaffee and co-host/producer/director Wes Wyatt for a sales-heavy conversation built around Ian’s three core pillars: People, Process, and Performance. Ian, a speaker, author, coach, sales mentor, and host of Confessions of a Sales Pro, explains how he helps sales organizations move from scattered effort to a “well-oiled selling machine” by assessing talent, installing a consultative sales process, and driving disciplined performance rhythms. His sales assessment includes leadership interviews, 90-minute one-on-one interviews with salespeople, and a recommendation report focused on the five or six changes that would matter most if he had ownership in the company. The goal is not endless theory. It is better people decisions, stronger sales talent scorecards, cleaner pipelines, and customer loyalty for life. Ian and Randy dig deep into the difference between sales activity and sales performance, especially through Ian’s Pipeline Wednesday model: every second Wednesday, salespeople spend a three-hour block doing nothing but outreach to book new prospect meetings. Ian explains that the prep must happen before the session because it is not “Wing It Wednesday.” Lists should be ready, research should be done, and the only mission during the block is outreach. One client used this system to build a $70 million pipeline in one year. The conversation also covers Ian’s Sales Look app, which supports pipeline management without trying to replace a CRM, as well as his monthly sales reviews and Top Deals Roundtable, where reps review their five strongest opportunities and receive coaching on how to move them forward. Randy and Ian close with a sharp reminder that great salespeople prepare, listen, avoid overselling, and understand that the first call is often not about closing the deal. It is about earning the next conversation. Key Takeaways:People come before process: Ian starts with sales assessments because training the wrong person only creates expensive frustration. His scorecard helps leaders decide who to keep, who to develop, and who may not fit the organization's direction. Five or six changes beat sixteen recommendations: Ian avoids overwhelming leadership with a laundry list. He focuses on the handful of changes that would have the greatest impact if he personally owned the company. Pipeline Wednesday builds sales muscle: Every other Wednesday, sales teams block three hours for outreach only. No research, no CRM cleanup, no wandering through LinkedIn. The prep happens Monday and Tuesday, so Wednesday becomes pure execution. Activity leads to pipeline, pipeline leads to results: Ian’s formula is simple and brutal: without consistent activity, there is no healthy pipeline. Without pipeline, there are no predictable results. One client built a $70 million pipeline in one year: Ian shares that a New York client implemented the assessment, training, and performance program and then used Pipeline Wednesday to generate it. It is not “Wing It Wednesday”: Salespeople should not show up at 9:00 wondering who to call. Lists, research, and call targets must be ready before the clock starts. The first call sells the meeting, not the product: Ian stresses that the goal of outreach is to earn a 20- or 30-minute meeting, explore needs, position value, and see whether there is a fit. Leave the product in the trunk: Ian’s training teaches salespeople not to lead with the product, service, or subscription. The first job is to sell the value of a relationship and show the prospect that real homework has been done. Overselling kills ready buyers: Ian shares a story from his Apple days where a salesperson kept demonstrating features even after the customer was ready to buy. The customer walked away because the salesperson would not stop selling long enough to listen. Process creates consistency, not robotic selling: Ian’s pipeline system gives teams a shared language for forecasting and deal status, while still leaving room for personality, flexibility, and each customer’s unique journey. Sales Look supports the process without replacing CRM: Ian’s Sales Look app is designed to make pipeline tracking simple, align with his sales methodology, and give reps more time to sell instead of drowning in administrative sludge. Top Deals Roundtable sharpens major opportunities: Every two weeks, salespeople bring their top five pipeline deals to a coaching session where Ian helps them test their strategy, access to decision-makers, deal stage, and next steps. Preparation is the secret weapon: Randy and Ian agree that salespeople who ask prospects basic questions they could have answered through research look unprepared and waste everyone’s time. Customer timing matters more than salesperson timing: Ian challenges reps to understand why a date matters to the customer, not just to the rep’s commission check. Great salespeople listen for buying signals: Process matters, but when the customer is ready to buy, stop marching through extra steps and take the order. Resources: Ian Selbie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ian-selbie-09883716 Sales Look: https://www.saleslook.com Randy Chaffee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/randychaffee/ https://www.facebook.com/therandychaffee https://www.sourceonemarketingllc.com https://www.buildingwins.live Wes Wyatt: https://www.weswyatt.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/weswyatt/ https://www.facebook.com/wesawyatt/

    Ian Selbie | 07192026 | Best Of #4

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