Fiat in the Mess

Annie Muller, Hailey Skinner

Fiat in the Mess is a Catholic mothers' podcast about saying "yes" to God right in the middle of daily life.  Brought to you by the mothers' ministry Mighty Is Her Call and inspired by Mary's fiat - "let it be done" - we dive into the beauty and chaos of our vocation: the literal messes, the spiritual struggles, and the hidden graces found in both. Through heartfelt and honest conversations, we uplift and dignify the sacred calling of motherhood - without pretending it's easy. Faithful, funny, and deeply real, this podcast is for moms seeking holiness in the mess, not outside of it.

  1. 5d ago

    Blessed, Stressed, & Totally Present

    Blessed, Stressed, and Totally PresentEpisode Summary How do we stay present to our children, our vocation, and God when we’re sleep-deprived, overwhelmed, and pulled in a dozen directions? Annie and Hailey explore the daily struggle to live in the present moment, grounded in agape love and Christ’s invitation to trust the Father with tomorrow. They share practical changes they’ve made, reflect on what our children really need from us, and close with St. Faustina’s Prayer for the Present Moment. Key Themes Agape is the foundation of motherhood. Most of us don’t struggle to love our kids. We struggle to know how to show up for them in daily life.Presence says “I see you.” Eye contact and undivided attention communicate dignity and love.Being present is not a new problem. Jesus constantly tells us not to worry about tomorrow. “Give us this day our daily bread.”Technology is a tool, not the enemy. The real question is what we reach for when we’re anxious, bored, or avoiding something hard.Our kids mostly want us. Not a perfect house or a perfect schedule.Discussion Highlights Hailey’s anxiety isn’t about her children themselves, but about the to-do list, work deadlines, and whether she’s measuring up as a mother and homemaker.Her Catechesis of the Good Shepherd training reminded her that parents are the primary educators of their children. She can’t control her kids’ faith, but she can prepare the environment so God can meet them there.She met a woman whose family traveled the country for a year, then settled on rural Texas land. Hailey concluded that you don’t have to move to be present. God calls her to the moment she’s in, in her own home.Hailey’s three-year-old asked his dad, “Does your teacher have the same eyes? My teacher has beautiful eyes.” In the atrium, children and teachers greet each other with eye contact and a handshake. It made Hailey ask whether she really looks at her son when she speaks to him.Annie shares how her teenagers often get compliments from engaged couples for looking people in the eye and shaking hands.After a big tantrum, Hailey’s son said, “Mama, I just want to be with you.” As the family became more connected, his challenging behaviors faded.Practical Tips Delete or limit social media if you reach for it when anxious or bored. Hailey stresses this is for her season, not a rule for everyone.Turn off notifications except calls and texts.Set “office hours” for email and texts, and be at peace with slower replies.Keep a running list of random urges (curtains, Pinterest) and visit it at a set time each week. Often you’ll find you were just filling a void.When you need a break, grab your Bible and go outside instead of reaching for your phone.Invite little ones into your work. “I need to finish the dishes, then I’ll be free to play. Want to help?” Let them sit near you, even if it’s messy.Keep devices off the dinner table. Protect family meals and game nights as sacred space.With teens, stay available. Leave the lamp on, and don’t skip the “pointless” conversation, because the real one often comes 15 minutes later.Correct behaviors in toddlers that you wouldn’t want to see in a teenager.Your Turn Share your tricks for staying present, or what your kids have said when you made the effort. Email us or leave a comment. Keep giving God your fiat in the mess.

    Blessed, Stressed, & Totally Present
  2. Oct 14

    Frozen Embryos and the Cross of Infertility: A Conversation with Dr. Irene Alexander

    In this episode of Fiat in the Mess, Annie Muller and Hailey Skinner welcome Dr. Irene Alexander, associate professor of moral theology at the University of Dallas, wife, and mother of six. Together they explore one of the most difficult questions in Catholic bioethics: what to do with the thousands of frozen embryos left behind by IVF. They also speak with compassion to the women and couples carrying the cross of infertility. Dr. Alexander's background Dr. Alexander holds her MA and PhD from Ave Maria University. She teaches moral theology, bioethics, Christian marriage, scripture, and tradition. Her scholarship has appeared in the National Catholic Bioethics Quarterly, the Linacre Quarterly, and other journals. Her forthcoming book, Frozen Embryos: A Catholic Moral Evaluation of Embryo Adoption, Cryopreservation, Rehydration, and Artificial Wounds, is expected in 2027. In this episode How Dr. Alexander balances motherhood and academic work, and why her family life and her theological work enrich each otherA plain-language explanation of how IVF works, including the creation of multiple embryos, selective reduction, and cryopreservationWhy the Church opposes IVF: it is contrary to the dignity of the child and to the unity of marriage, which joins the unitive and procreative meanings of the conjugal actThe Church's teaching as an interpretation of natural law rather than a rule only for CatholicsRestorative reproductive medicine and NaProTechnology: ethical options that seek to diagnose and heal the underlying causes of infertilityThe cultural tendency to treat fertility as a problem to be suppressed rather than a giftEmbryo adoption: what Dignitas Personae (2008, paragraph 19) says, the ongoing scholarly debate, and Dr. Alexander's own positionArtificial wombs and ectogenesis, and the ethical concerns they raiseFaith and courage in motherhood, including Dr. Alexander's "pickle jar" storyEncouragement for women facing infertility and for those overwhelmed by pregnancy: God sees the ache and invites us to surrender it to HimA note on the discussion Dr. Alexander is clear about the difference between what the Church has officially taught and her own scholarly argument. Embryo adoption remains a disputed question among Catholic theologians. Resources Dr. Alexander’s book, Frozen Embryos: A Catholic Moral Evaluation of Embryo Adoption, Cryopreservation, Rehydration, & Artificial WombsDignitas PersonaeNaProTechnologySaint Paul VI InstituteKeep giving God your fiat in the mess.

    Frozen Embryos and the Cross of Infertility: A Conversation with Dr. Irene Alexander
  3. Sep 30

    Resigning from Martyrdom: Asking for Help in Motherhood

    Fiat in the Mess |  Resigning from Martyrdom: Asking for Help in Motherhood (3.15) Why is it so hard for mothers to ask for help, and why do we feel embarrassed when we get it? Annie and Hailey talk about the temptation to power through like martyrs, the guilt, pride, and perfectionism that keep us from reaching out and why God never meant motherhood to be a solo mission.  Your Father who sees in secret will reward you. You are a beloved daughter of the King, and He sees the work of your hands.  Keep giving God your fiat in the mess. In this episode: Mary's pregnancy check-in: week 27, one week from the third trimester. Baby Jesus can recognize Mary and Joseph's voices and perceive light and dark, and Advent is about a month away.Annie's story of the housekeeper her mom and aunt hired when she was pregnant with her seventh, and why she was embarrassed to tell anyoneHailey's "Hot Mess Express" season, and how God the Father answered her tearful prayer within minutes by sending her father-in-law to the doorWe are dependent, rational creatures made for communion. Self-gift is meant to be mutual, not poured out until we're empty.The cleaning and meals support the mission of the family, but they aren't the mission.The power of being seen, and why it helps to tell your husband what you need instead of leaving him guessingPractical ideas: Swap childcare with a trusted friend, including date-night swapsTrade cleaning: bring your mop to her house, and she scrubs your sinkStart a meal train, and be the friend who notices when someone is drowningTake a weekend away and let your husband hold down the fortWrite down everything you do in a day to see what you can let go of, and what's simply too much for one personIf you have the means, hire help such as a housekeeper or meal prep. That's smart delegation, not failure.Start a weekly rosary group with other momsHold a Sunday "powwow" with your spouse. Keep a running list all week, then sit down together once the kids are in bed. Your Father who sees in secret will reward you. You are a beloved daughter of the King, and He sees the work of your hands. Keep giving God your fiat in the mess. Have a question you'd like answered in a future episode? Send it our way — we'd love to hear from you! mightyishercall.com/contact-us Upcoming Events Retreat in Augusta, GA and Wichita, KSSupport the Podcast: mightyishercall.com/podcast-support

    Resigning from Martyrdom: Asking for Help in Motherhood
  4. Sep 16

    September Graces: From Mary's Nativity to the Foot of the Cross

    Mary’s Birthday and Our Lady of SorrowsThis episode reflects on two closely connected Marian feast days in September: the Nativity of Mary and Our Lady of Sorrows. Annie Muller and Hailey Skinner explore why the Church celebrates Mary’s birth, how it points to the beginning of salvation history, and how her sorrows can comfort mothers and anyone carrying suffering.They also connect these feasts to everyday motherhood, hiddenness, surrender, grief, and the hope of Christ’s victory. The conversation blends theology, lived experience, and practical consolation. Key topicsWhy Mary’s birthday is celebrated on September 8, nine months after the Immaculate Conception.The historical roots of the feast, including its early observance in the Eastern Church.Why the Church celebrates only three birthdays in the liturgical calendar: Jesus, Mary, and John the Baptist.Mary’s hidden life and how holiness often unfolds without recognition.The connection between Mary’s fiat, motherhood, surrender, and quiet sacrifice.Our Lady of Sorrows and the seven sorrows traditionally associated with Mary’s life.The seven sorrows: Simeon’s prophecy, the flight into Egypt, losing Jesus in the temple, meeting Jesus on the way to Calvary, the crucifixion, receiving Jesus’ body, and his burial.How Mary’s sorrows resonate with miscarriage, infant loss, and the pain of motherhood.Why devotion to Mary is not worship, but a relationship of intercession, companionship, and imitation.The seven promises associated with devotion to Mary’s sorrows, including peace, consolation, protection, and hope.Timestamps00:00 — Opening the September Marian feast days conversation 02:17 — Mary’s nativity as the beginning of redemption 03:39 — The history of celebrating Mary’s birth 06:29 — Why September 8 follows the Immaculate Conception 08:25 — Mary’s birth as preparation for the Incarnation 09:41 — Hidden holiness and motherhood 12:50 — Why Our Lady of Sorrows belongs beside Mary’s birthday 16:42 — Why sorrow and glory belong together 18:39 — The Seven Sorrows devotion 21:28 — Explaining Marian intercession 24:16 — Sitting with a friend in suffering 29:29 — Annie’s story of losing her son Gabriel 31:29 — The communion of saints and the thin veil at Mass 36:31 — Miscarriage, grief, and eternal hope 41:56 — Which sorrows strike each host most deeply 46:51 — The Seven Promises of the devotion 49:17 — The promise of peace for families 51:21 — Seeing the face of Mary at death 52:51 — Closing encouragement Support the Podcast: mightyishercall.com/podcast-support Contact: annie@mightyishercall.com"Keep giving God your fiat in the mess."

    September Graces: From Mary's Nativity to the Foot of the Cross
  5. Sep 2

    Go Home and Love Your Family: Learning from Mother Teresa

    Annie Muller and Hailey Skinner reflect on Mother Teresa’s life, her fierce trust in divine providence, and the way her witness reshaped how they understand motherhood, vocation, and mercy. They explore why Mother Teresa still matters now, especially for moms carrying the hidden, repetitive work of family life.We discuss Mother Teresa’s biography, the “call within a call,” her love for prayer, and how her example teaches that holiness is found in ordinary acts done with great joy. The conversation ends with Mother Teresa’s Fragrance Prayer, a fitting summary of the episode’s theme: letting Christ shine through the small, faithful work of daily life. Key topicsAnnie and Hailey open with their recent retreat for more than 80 moms in Dallas Hailey gives a brief biography of Mother TeresaHailey highlights Mother Teresa’s radical trust in divine providenceAnnie reflects on how Mother Teresa helped her see young motherhood not as small or boring, but as a real place of mission and sanctification.The two discuss Mother Teresa’s insistence that world peace begins at home, with loving one’s own family first.Hailey shares how Mother Teresa became her confirmation saint and how that decision shaped her sense of vocation and mission before marriage.Annie connects Mother Teresa’s teachings to the corporal and spiritual works of mercy lived out daily in motherhoodThey emphasize kindness and making others feel seen as practical ways of living Christ’s love in the home.Timestamps(00:00) Opening the episode (01:19) Retreat reflections and the gift of gathering with moms(03:23) Why the episode is about Mother Teresa(05:50) Hailey introduces Mother Teresa’s biography(06:56) The “call within a call” and “I thirst”(07:54) Leaving the convent to found the Missionaries of Charity(09:13) Stories of divine providence and unexpected provision(11:17) Prayer before action and Mother Teresa’s insistence on prayer(12:52) Annie on Mother Teresa in the public eye and in her conversion(14:39) Reading No Greater Love in early motherhood(15:53) “How do we promote world peace? You go home and love your family”(16:38) Doing the small things with great joy and great love(18:14) Hailey’s confirmation saint story(23:58) Learning that marriage and motherhood are holy vocations(26:51) No hierarchy of vocations(28:58) The corporal and spiritual works of mercy in motherhood(30:21) Let no one leave without feeling better and happier(34:21) Montessori, eye contact, and greeting children with dignity(40:28) Introducing the Fragrance Prayer(41:13) The quick novena and asking for urgent help Books and Resources Mentioned: Mother Teresa of Calcutta: A Personal Portrait No Greater Love Mother Teresa's Fragrance Prayer Mighty Is Her Call Retreats Support the Podcast annie@mightyishercall.com

    Go Home and Love Your Family: Learning from Mother Teresa
  6. Aug 19

    Ask Us Anything: For Newlyweds, Soon-to-Be-Moms, & Moms in the Mess

    This week on Fiat in the Mess, Annie is joined by Mary for a special listener Q&A covering the honest, sometimes scary questions many of you have sent in about marriage and motherhood. Nothing was off-limits! Mary—one year into marriage and part of the Mighty Is Her Call team—opens up about the surprising anxiety she felt on her wedding day (including the box-breathing trick her dad taught her to get down the aisle), and how she worked through the "what if" thoughts that came with making a lifelong vow. Annie, celebrating 23 years of marriage this week, shares why she loves her husband even more now than on her wedding day, and how grace shows up in the middle of both the joy and the jitters. From there, the conversation moves into some of the biggest questions newlyweds and future moms wrestle with: Do you ever feel trapped after taking your vows? How to tell the difference between a genuine red flag and normal, amoral anxiety.The identity shift into motherhood — what changes, what doesn't have to, and why staying connected to your husband and friends (away from the kids!) matters so much.Is giving birth embarrassing? Annie's honest take on labor, intimacy, and why husbands walk away in awe, not disgust.Wrestling with anger at God—a beautiful analogy about a silversmith refining precious metal, and why bringing your anger to the Lord (not away from Him) is the healthier path.Mom guilt and pregnancy exhaustion—permission to rest, the story of Elijah's "nap and a snack" from God, and practical tips for breaking up household chores into doable pieces.A messy house isn't a moral failure. Annie reflects on raising six kids in a tiny two-bedroom home—and how her adult kids only remember the happy chaos, not the mess.Comparison culture and social media. How to guard your heart against the curated, "constant Christmas card" feel of Instagram and TikTok, and why liturgical living should look different in every home, not like a copy-paste of your favorite influencer.Whether you're newly married, discerning motherhood, or years into the beautiful mess of raising a family, this episode is full of grace, humor, and hard-won wisdom for wherever you are in your vocation. In This Episode: Managing wedding day anxiety and pre-vow jittersNavigating the identity shift into motherhoodHonest talk about labor, birth, and intimacy after babyBringing anger and hard emotions to GodLetting go of mom guilt and household perfectionismComparison, social media, and authentic Catholic motherhoodHave a question you'd like answered on a future episode? Send it our way—we'd love to hear from you! mightyishercall.com/contact-us Keep giving God your fiat in the mess. Upcoming Events Dallas, TX Retreat (August 22)Retreats also coming to Augusta, GA and Wichita, KSSupport the Podcast: mightyishercall.com/podcast-support

    Ask Us Anything: For Newlyweds, Soon-to-Be-Moms, & Moms in the Mess
  7. Aug 5

    Tales from the Trenches: A Mother's Own Mysteries of the Rosary

    In this episode, Annie and Hailey sit down for a story-time episode, sharing personal, funny, humbling, and sacred moments from their own motherhood journeys. Since the podcast is walking with Mary through her pregnancy this season, Annie and Hailey frame their stories in the joyful, sorrowful, luminous, and glorious mysteries of the Rosary, reminding listeners that none of us have motherhood figured out, and that God is present in every moment, even (especially) the messy ones. Here is a taste of what’s in store this episode: Joyful: Hailey's plane-ride diaper disaster in South Padre, Annie's skirt mishap at Mass, and a toddler's potty-training protest in the Target toy aisle.Sweet moments: A three-year-old's "great idea" to eat all the chocolate, a bedtime visit from "the holy family," and the funny phrases ("papamas," "I can't like it") that stick around for good.The sorrowful and luminous: Hailey's Florence pilgrimage and a stunning "coincidence" in a book chapter title; Annie's story of a Scripture verse that came back to her, framed, months after her hysterectomy; Hailey's son losing his front teeth in a park accident, and what it taught her about letting go.The glorious: Annie's daughter giving a heartfelt toast at her 50th birthday, and Hailey's tale of two strangers—one sour, one full of wisdom—reminding her the trenches of motherhood are holy ground.Annie and Hailey close by encouraging listeners to write down and share their own stories: it's a gift to yourself and to others! Have a story of your own? Share it with a friend—you never know how it might bless them. Keep giving God your fiat in the mess. Upcoming Events Dallas, TX Retreat (August 22) — both Annie & Hailey speakingRetreats also coming to Augusta, GA and Wichita, KSDetails: mightyishercall.com/retreatsSupport the Podcast: mightyishercall.com/podcast-support

    Tales from the Trenches: A Mother's Own Mysteries of the Rosary
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Fiat in the Mess is a Catholic mothers' podcast about saying "yes" to God right in the middle of daily life.  Brought to you by the mothers' ministry Mighty Is Her Call and inspired by Mary's fiat - "let it be done" - we dive into the beauty and chaos of our vocation: the literal messes, the spiritual struggles, and the hidden graces found in both. Through heartfelt and honest conversations, we uplift and dignify the sacred calling of motherhood - without pretending it's easy. Faithful, funny, and deeply real, this podcast is for moms seeking holiness in the mess, not outside of it.

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