A Tale of Two Hygienists Podcast

Jessica Atkinson, RDH and David Torres CRDH
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We created A Tale of Two Hygienists in 2015 because we are passionate about helping our fellow clinicians be the best version of themselves, both professionally and personally. We Interview experts in their fields to provide better care for our patients while promoting the joys of being a dental hygienist.

  1. 2D AGO

    532 What We're Missing: An Oral Pathologist on Red Flags, Referrals, and Reality

    In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, co-hosts David Torres and Jessica Atkinson sit down with oral pathologist Dr. Bryan Trump to discuss the important role dental professionals play in identifying abnormalities and knowing when to refer patients to a specialist. Dr. Trump shares valuable insight into what clinicians might be missing during routine exams and how to strengthen their confidence when suspicious findings arise. The conversation dives into practical strategies for performing thorough oral cancer screenings, recognizing key red flags, and navigating patient conversations when something concerning is discovered. Dr. Trump also offers guidance on how clinicians can communicate pathology findings in a clear and compassionate way—helping patients understand the situation without causing unnecessary fear. This episode provides practical tips for dental hygienists and dentists who want to improve their screening protocols, referral confidence, and patient communication when dealing with potentially serious diagnoses. What We Talked About: How to confidently refer patients to specialists Essential tips for performing effective oral cancer screenings Recognizing concerning findings and clinical red flags Navigating difficult conversations about the possibility of cancer How to communicate pathology findings without unnecessarily scaring patients   If you found this episode helpful, be sure to subscribe to A Tale of Two Hygienists, leave a review, and share the episode with colleagues who are passionate about improving patient care and early detection.   Resources: Contact Dr. Bryan Trump: bryan.trump@hsc.utah.edu

    35 min

  2. MAR 25

    531 When Advocacy Doesn't Win: How to Respond When Legislation Goes the Other Way

    In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, co-hosts David Torres and Jessica Atkinson sit down with Joffree Bunleang to unpack one of the most challenging realities in professional advocacy—what happens when legislation doesn't go the way you hoped?   The conversation centers around Oral Preventive Assistants (OPAs) and the evolving landscape of dental practice. Joffree brings clarity to what OPAs are, why they're being introduced in various regions, and how their presence impacts dental hygienists and the broader dental team.   Key topics discussed include:   Understanding OPAs and their intended role within dental practices   The surprising truth about the hygienist perspective on change and professional identity   The real impact OPAs may have on workflow, patient care, and team dynamics   Practical ways hygienists can work with OPAs in everyday clinical settings   How to respond constructively when advocacy efforts don't achieve the desired outcome   Rather than framing OPAs as a threat, this episode challenges listeners to consider how collaboration, leadership, and proactive engagement can strengthen the profession. Joffree offers thoughtful insight into how hygienists can continue advocating for themselves while also building effective working relationships with Oral Preventive Assistants.   This episode is a must-listen for hygienists navigating legislative changes and seeking productive ways to move forward—together.   Call to Action Empower yourself as a dental hygienist. Advocate for your profession, stay informed about legislative developments, and focus on collaboration. Learn how to work alongside Oral Preventive Assistants in ways that support patient care, professional growth, and team success.   Resources:   Email: joffree.bunleang@hygieneelevated.com   LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joffreebunleang/   "What if OPAs became the strength we didn't see coming?" https://www.rdhmag.com/career-profession/article/55344645/what-if-opas-became-the-strength-we-didnt-see-coming

    30 min

  3. MAR 18

    530 Legislation 101 for Hygienists: What Actually Moves the Needle

    Legislation impacts your daily practice more than most clinicians realize. In this episode, we sit down with Derik J. Sven to break down what truly drives change in dental hygiene policy — and what doesn't.   Derik shares insight into the realities behind dental care standards, the ongoing fight for hygienist autonomy, and the complex supervision structures that shape scope of practice across the country. He also explains why legal expertise often carries significant influence in regulatory conversations and how business, public health, and law intersect in advancing the profession.   In This Episode We Cover:   The political and structural forces behind dental care standards   The ongoing battle for dental hygienist autonomy   Supervision requirements and why they matter   Why attorneys often influence dental policy decisions   Lesser-known factors that can directly affect your career   About the Guest Derik J. Sven began his career as a certified dental technician before transitioning into clinical dental hygiene. He earned degrees in Dental Hygiene and Health Care Administration, followed by a Master of Public Health and a Master of Business Administration. He is currently pursuing doctoral research at George Washington University, focusing on dental therapy advancement and hygienist autonomy, while also completing a Master's in Health Care Law. Derik is actively involved in the American Dental Hygienists' Association, where he was inducted into the inaugural class of ADHA Fellows in 2023 and serves as President-Elect of Virginia's Dental Hygienists' Association. This episode offers a practical foundation for understanding how legislation truly moves — and what it means for the future of dental hygiene.   Resources: derik@dentistrywithderik.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/derikjsven/

    37 min

  4. MAR 14

    Comfort, Confidence & Stronger Smiles

    Tooth sensitivity can make everyday things—like drinking cold water or even getting a routine cleaning—uncomfortable for patients. In this TIPisode, Dr. Marc Geissberger shares his experience beta testing ReminGel, a professional-strength remineralizing gel from PerioProtect designed to reduce sensitivity and support enamel health. Marc Geissberger DDS, MA shares how patients in his practice used the gel with PerioProtect trays for just 15 minutes a day, with many reporting dramatic reductions in sensitivity after only one week.   If you treat patients who struggle with sensitivity, this TIPisode highlights a promising option that may improve comfort, hygiene visits, and overall patient care.    This TIPisode is sponsored by PerioProtect. Learn more at PerioProtect.com

    7 min

  5. MAR 11

    529 Advocating for Yourself Without Burning Out

    Advocacy can feel exhausting — especially in a profession that already demands so much emotionally and physically. In this powerful episode, we sit down with Bethany Montoya, MBA, BAS, RDH to talk about how to stand up for yourself, your patients, and your profession without sacrificing your well-being.   Bethany shares her personal journey through challenge, change, and growth — and how embracing the storm can actually make you stronger. From navigating the pressures of clinical life to stepping into new leadership roles, she reminds us that authenticity and community are essential tools in sustainable advocacy.   This conversation is honest, energizing, and filled with practical encouragement for hygienists who want to make a difference without burning out.   Connect with Bethany: 🔗 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bethanymontoya/   🔗 Resources & Projects: https://linktr.ee/humanrdh   Bethanyrdh@outlook.com

    31 min

  6. MAR 4

    528 From Complaining to Constructive: Turning Frustration Into Advocacy

    In this episode, we sit down with Danyelle Evans to explore her path from an invested clinician to becoming a state and national advocate for oral health and access to prevention.     Danyelle shares the moment that shifted her perspective from frustration to action: caring for a patient who could no longer continue treatment in a traditional brick-and-mortar dental office. Watching him lose access to care sparked her desire to create opportunities to continue caring for patients in more accessible, patient-centered ways.   From that experience, Danyelle's advocacy journey grew. She reflects on how professional association membership became a critical foundation—providing education, leadership development, and a voice in policy conversations that directly impact patient care. We also discuss how networking, mentorship, and showing up consistently opened doors to opportunities she never could have planned for, but was prepared to step into.   Resources: info@smartmouthrdh.com linkedin.com/in/danyelleevans @mobile_dentalhygiene  facebook.com/MobileDentalHygieneofSt.George

    32 min

  7. FEB 25

    527 Practicing With Purpose: Lessons From the Wind River Reservation

    Dr. Johnson returns to the podcast to share a powerful and often-overlooked perspective on tribal dentistry, career fulfillment, and why passion truly matters in dentistry. This conversation goes beyond clinical techniques and dives into purpose, opportunity, and loving the work you do.   🦷 What You'll Learn in This Episode   Understanding Tribal Dentistry: A Unique Perspective Dr. Johnson offers an inside look at tribal dentistry—how it operates, who it serves, and why it plays a vital role in improving access to care in underserved communities.   Navigating Job Opportunities in Tribal Dentistry Thinking outside the traditional private practice model? Dr. Johnson breaks down career paths, benefits, and professional growth opportunities available in tribal dentistry.   The Impact of Passion in Dentistry Revealed Passion isn't optional—it's essential. Dr. Johnson explains how loving what you do directly affects patient care, team culture, and long-term career satisfaction.   Why Loving Your Job Makes a Difference From daily mindset to burnout prevention, Dr. Johnson shares how fulfillment in dentistry leads to better outcomes for both patients and providers.   Discover the Tooth Fairy's Secret Money Source A fun and lighthearted moment in the episode, Dr. Johnson reveals a playful take on the legendary tooth fairy—and the Children's book that he wrote about it!   Resources:   Where Does the Tooth Fairy Get All That Money? https://a.co/d/7YpQVgC The Sacred Chalice https://a.co/d/0XfYf5Y

    33 min

  8. FEB 18

    526 Pediatric Medical Emergencies & Anesthesia: Prepared, Not Panicked

    In this episode of A Tale of Two Hygienists, hosts Jessica Atkinson and David Torres sit down with Brittnee Thibault and Lindsay Richmond—two hygienists who graduated with no pediatric local anesthetic practice in school and went on to become confident clinicians providing local anesthesia for children.   Brittnee and Lindsay share how they developed pediatric anesthesia skills after graduation, building confidence through preparation, mentorship, and real-world experience. They discuss behavior management, anesthesia techniques, and parent-provider communication—highlighting how being prepared allows clinicians to stay calm rather than panicked when treating pediatric patients.   What We Cover   Transitioning from no pediatric local anesthetic practice in school to confidently anesthetizing children   Pediatric behavior management strategies that support successful anesthesia   Practical anesthesia techniques and considerations for pediatric patients   Managing children and their parents during appointments   Parent-provider communication that builds trust and reduces anxiety Resources: Social Media Handles: @Lindsay.richmond16 LindsayRichmond.rdh@gmail.com   @brittnee.thibault Brittneethibaultrdh@gmail.com

    36 min
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We created A Tale of Two Hygienists in 2015 because we are passionate about helping our fellow clinicians be the best version of themselves, both professionally and personally. We Interview experts in their fields to provide better care for our patients while promoting the joys of being a dental hygienist.

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