The Growth Lab Podcast

Matt Harris

This podcast is for cleaning, waste, and property maintenance business owners and operators facing larger contracts and higher commercial stakes. Host Matt Harris tackles commercial clarity: why operators take unsuitable work, why sales stall as businesses grow, and why effort alone fails between £1m and £10m. Each episode breaks down decisions, beliefs, and buyer dynamics that shape which contracts you win, which are costly, and why scaling adds challenges. This podcast does not offer tactics or motivation. It provides clear guidance to operators on which work to pursue and which to decline. The goal is not to help you win more work. It is to help you avoid taking the wrong work as the stakes grow. thegrowthlabfm.substack.com

  1. Why You're Winning 3 Out of 10 Deals (And Your Competitor is Winning 6) | Ep.55

    Mar 16

    Why You're Winning 3 Out of 10 Deals (And Your Competitor is Winning 6) | Ep.55

    You lost a deal last month that should have been yours. Same scope. Better relationship. They went cheaper. And you still don’t know why. This isn’t a sales execution problem. It’s an ICP problem — and it’s costing you 60% of your BD capacity every single month. In this episode, I break down why inconsistent win rates happen when you’re pursuing three incompatible buyer environments with the same pitch deck. Construction buyers assess programme risk. Housing buyers assess compliance risk. Property buyers assess operational risk. Your pitch deck says “reliable service, experienced team, competitive pricing” — and none of that maps to their decision framework. Key Takeaways * Why 10 of your 15 opportunities were never winnable (not because of pricing) * The real cost of an unclear ICP: wasted BD capacity, founder dependency, constant discounting * Why “we can serve all three buyer types” is keeping you stuck at £3–10m * The one diagnostic exercise that reveals your actual ICP in 20 minutes * What improves when you stop chasing misaligned work: win rates, discounting, operations, positioning This is the clarity decision that changes everything. Not “how do we win more deals?” but “which deals should we stop chasing?” Resources * Substack: https://thegrowthlabfm.substack.com/p/the-180k-problem-why-youre-winning?r=1fx8p5 * Connect on LinkedIn & X: @iam_mattharris Get full access to The Growth Lab at thegrowthlabfm.substack.com/subscribe

    10 min
  2. The Role of Technology in Transforming Home Services to Home Management: the Next Big Shift

    05/12/2025

    The Role of Technology in Transforming Home Services to Home Management: the Next Big Shift

    In this episode of The Growth Lab podcast, I explore the evolving landscape of the home services industry with Matt Ricketts of Better Life Maids. Matt highlights the increasing demand for convenience and the role of technology in shaping customer experiences. We also discuss the industry's trend of consolidation, the potential for home management companies to emerge, and the importance of operational foundations for success. Listen to the full interview with Matt Ricketts here: Key Takeaways * Convenience is driving the direction of home services. * Cleaning services are the least profitable in the home service sector. * The industry is moving towards consolidation and home management. * Technology will level the playing field for smaller players. * Operational foundations are crucial for tech companies in home services. * Amazon and Google have previously tried to enter the home services market. * Speed and convenience are key factors for customers today. * Big cleaning companies may evolve into home management companies. Chapters 00:00 Intro 00:19 The Evolution of Home Services 02:08 Residential Facilities Management 04:21 The Role of Technology in Home Services Connect with me LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iammattharris/ X/Twitter: https://x.com/iam_mattharris TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iam_mattharris Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iam_mattharris/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/iammattharris/ My website: https://www.iammattharris.co.uk/ Get full access to The Growth Lab at thegrowthlabfm.substack.com/subscribe

    6 min
  3. The 7-Part Business Model that Creates Predictable Revenue (and Growth)

    05/05/2025

    The 7-Part Business Model that Creates Predictable Revenue (and Growth)

    In this episode of The Growth Lab podcast, I discuss the foundational elements of a successful business model with business coach Martin Riley. Martin emphasises the importance of strategic priorities, sales and marketing, financial management, and building a strong team for sustainable business growth. We also discuss how businesses can identify barriers to growth and take a more streamlined and practical approach to achieving business goals. Listen to the whole episode here: Key Takeaways * Identifying strategic priorities is crucial for business growth. * Sales and marketing are essential components of a successful business. * Customer feedback is vital for continuous improvement. * Hiring the right people and building a strong team is key to business success. * Setting high-impact priorities can lead to significant growth. * Year-on-year growth can be achieved through focused efforts. Chapters 00:00 Intro 00:19 Foundations of Business Growth 01:11 Business Systems 02:07 Product Market Fit 02:37 Sales + Marketing 03:35 Pricing Strategy 04:32 Building the Right Team for your Business 06:29 Strategic Priorities for Success Connect with me LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iammattharris/ X/Twitter: https://x.com/iam_mattharris TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iam_mattharris Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iam_mattharris/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/iammattharris/ My website: https://www.iammattharris.co.uk/ Get full access to The Growth Lab at thegrowthlabfm.substack.com/subscribe

    7 min
  4. Level Up Your Sales Process | CRM Mastery + Follow Up Secrets (Selling Tips for Success)

    04/14/2025

    Level Up Your Sales Process | CRM Mastery + Follow Up Secrets (Selling Tips for Success)

    In this episode of The Growth Lab podcast, I discuss the importance of tracking sales metrics, building a solid foundation for sales processes, and the significance of effective follow-up strategies with the DayPorter team (James and Angel). We emphasize the need for personal touches in prospecting and the role of attention in sales success. We also discuss the importance of brand recognition and how to position oneself effectively in the market. Listen to the full interview with the DayPorter team here: https://thegrowthlab1.substack.com/p/how-to-sell-more-commercial-cleaning Key Takeaways * Track sales metrics effectively * Building a strong foundation with CRM is crucial. * Follow-up procedures can significantly impact sales success. * Personal touches in communication can set you apart. * Engaging with clients on multiple channels is beneficial. * Attention is the first step in the sales process. * Utilizing video summaries can enhance client engagement. * Sales success often comes from consistent engagement and follow-up. Chapters 00:00 Intro 00:17 Understanding Sales Processes and the importance of a CRM 03:04 Effective Follow-Up Strategies and Personal Touches 05:46 Leveraging Attention in Sales and Marketing 06:28 Outro Connect with me LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/iammattharris/ X/Twitter: https://x.com/iam_mattharris TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@iam_mattharris Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/iam_mattharris/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/iammattharris/ My website: https://www.iammattharris.co.uk/ Get full access to The Growth Lab at thegrowthlabfm.substack.com/subscribe

    7 min

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This podcast is for cleaning, waste, and property maintenance business owners and operators facing larger contracts and higher commercial stakes. Host Matt Harris tackles commercial clarity: why operators take unsuitable work, why sales stall as businesses grow, and why effort alone fails between £1m and £10m. Each episode breaks down decisions, beliefs, and buyer dynamics that shape which contracts you win, which are costly, and why scaling adds challenges. This podcast does not offer tactics or motivation. It provides clear guidance to operators on which work to pursue and which to decline. The goal is not to help you win more work. It is to help you avoid taking the wrong work as the stakes grow. thegrowthlabfm.substack.com