Rubbish Talk

Alasdair Meldrum and Jane Bond from Albion Environmental Ltd
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The Rubbish Talk podcast is brought to you by staff from Albion Environmental, to widen the conversation about managing waste and resources in the UK. Each episode will interview a new guest who plays an important role within the waste and resource management industry. We will discuss everything from career journeys, balancing work and personal life, and generally just talk some rubbish. Get in touch by emailing hello@rubbishtalk.co.uk Episodes released Thu. 4pm fortnightly. LinkedIn: Albion Environmental Latest industry news: www.industrynews.albion-environmental.co.uk

  1. 1d ago

    Episode 113: by Solomon Ede, Senior Enforcement Officer at West Lothian Council

    This week on Rubbish Talk, Alasdair is joined by Solomon Ede, Senior Enforcement Officer at West Lothian Council and Scottish Executive Representative for LARAC (Local Authority Recycling Advisory Committee). Solomon shares his journey into the waste sector, from working in Ghana to helping shape waste and recycling discussions across Scotland. Drawing on experiences from two very different waste management systems, he offers a unique perspective on how attitudes, infrastructure, and policy can influence environmental outcomes The conversation explores the importance of education, engagement, and behavioural change in improving recycling and reducing environmental crime. Solomon explains why helping people understand the impact of their actions is often more effective than enforcement alone. Alasdair and Solomon also discuss littering, fly-tipping, and the challenges local authorities face when trying to tackle environmental offences. They reflect on the need for stronger support, better collaboration, and more effective systems to help councils deliver meaningful change. One of the most interesting parts of the discussion centres around Solomon's experiences working in both Ghana and the UK. He reflects on how waste management systems have evolved in Ghana over the last two decades, moving from largely informal collection and disposal methods towards more structured services and infrastructure. The comparison highlights both how far the UK has come and the importance of continuing to improve existing systems rather than taking them for granted. The episode also explores the role of empathy in environmental enforcement. Solomon shares how frontline interactions with residents have shaped his approach to the job, explaining why understanding individual circumstances and communicating effectively can often achieve better outcomes than simply issuing penalties. His experiences provide a valuable insight into the human side of waste management and environmental compliance. The discussion also covers the role of LARAC, the importance of local authority voices in policy development, and some of the key challenges facing the sector in the years ahead, including plastics, recycling performance, and public engagement. A thoughtful conversation covering behavioural change, enforcement, recycling, policy, and the future of waste management in Scotland.

    43 min

  2. May 28

    Episode 112: Connor Benton & Serena Powell, Go4Greener

    This week on Rubbish Talk, Alasdair is joined by Connor Benton and Serena Powell from Go4Greener, a Derby-based hazardous waste company specialising in everything from commodity recycling and WEEE to hazardous waste treatment and innovative new technologies. The conversation explores the wide range of activities carried out at Go4Greener, including hazardous waste handling, WEEE dismantling, and their exciting new Advetec aerobic digestion system, which is being used to process offensive hygiene waste such as nappies and sanitary products into SRF (Solid Recovered Fuel) as an alternative to fossil fuels. Serena explains her role as both site chemist and site manager, covering everything from hazardous waste testing and classification to operations, health and safety, and customer site visits. She shares how she originally studied chemistry without ever considering the waste sector as a career option, before taking a chance on a hazardous waste role near home — and quickly realising just how varied and interesting the industry could be. Connor, now Technical Director, also entered the sector by accident through an apprenticeship, before becoming fascinated by the complexity and scale of the waste industry. Together, they discuss how waste management offers a huge variety of career paths, combining technical knowledge, operations, logistics, compliance and commercial work all within one industry. One of the main topics of the episode is Go4Greener’s new Advetec XL22 system. The technology uses an aerobic digestion process to treat offensive hygiene waste over a 72-hour period, reducing moisture content and converting the remaining material into SRF suitable for use in cement kilns. Connor explains how the process works, from shredding and adding a biological stimulant through to controlled heating and continuous monitoring of moisture levels and emissions. The pair also discuss the challenges of bringing innovative technology into the waste sector, including the lengthy permitting process and the barriers companies can face when trying to introduce new ideas. Serena reflects on the experience of helping secure the permit for the Advetec plant, while Connor highlights the importance of regulators and industry working together to support innovation rather than automatically saying no to new approaches. The discussion also touches on battery recycling, WEEE dismantling, and the growing concern around lithium batteries and vapes. Connor explains that while Go4Greener can safely collect and store many battery types, there are still limited treatment options within the UK, meaning a significant amount of waste continues to be exported overseas for processing. Both guests reflect on the future of the industry and the importance of education — not just for the public, but also for students and young professionals who may never realise the opportunities available within the waste sector. Serena highlights that waste management was never mentioned during her chemistry degree, despite being an ideal career path for many science graduates looking for something more hands-on and varied. A brilliant episode covering hazardous waste, innovation, recycling technology and careers in the sector — and a great insight into the people and processes helping drive the industry forward.

    38 min

  3. May 21

    Episode 111: News Roundup & Deep Dive into PFAS: The Next POPs?

    News Roundup  Simpler Recycling: More Headlines, More Confusion  Simpler Recycling continues to generate some questionable headlines, with articles listing items “banned” from recycling — many of which were never recyclable in the first place. Alasdair and Jane question why the messaging is so negative, instead of focusing on education, clearer guidance and the benefits of getting recycling right.  Smelly Bins and Food Waste Fears  A business has launched a product aimed at tackling bin odours linked to food waste collections. Jane and Alasdair aren’t convinced this is the real issue — if food waste is collected weekly and separated properly, the system should be cleaner and less smelly than leaving food in residual waste.  Can You Recycle Empty Crisp Packets?  Another recycling debate doing the rounds: crisp packets. It’s a reminder of how much confusion still exists around what can and can’t go in household recycling — and why tools like MyBins are so useful. Perfect timing with South Ayrshire Council residents being given the chance to download for free the new MyBins app, which is now live in South Ayrshire Council.  Sustainability at Events: Cups, Bottles and Marathons  Paris Marathon has taken a major step by banning single-use plastic bottles and disposable paper cups at on-course aid stations, requiring runners to bring reusable hydration containers. Jane and Alasdair discuss the practical challenge — especially for faster runners — but agree that events need to think much harder about waste, from water stations to t-shirts, medals and catering.  Food Waste Campaign in South Ayrshire  South Ayrshire Council is running a food waste campaign to encourage residents to use their food waste collections properly. Alasdair notes that participation in Scotland remains low despite services being in place for years — and questions whether councils should also be highlighting the significant savings possible when food waste is removed from residual bins.  Topic: PFAS – The Next POPs?  This week’s deeper discussion focuses on PFAS, or per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances — often called “forever chemicals” because they break down extremely slowly in the environment. The UK Government recently consulted on adding five new Persistent Organic Pollutants (POPs) into UK law under the assimilated POPs Regulation A major concern for the waste sector is the introduction of stricter UTC limits (Unintentional Trace Contaminant limits), which determine how much of these chemicals can legally remain in products and materials. If limits are exceeded, recycling may become impossible and disposal costs could increase significantly.  A key issue is the tension between environmental protection and circular economy goals. While reducing harmful chemicals is clearly positive, stricter POP limits could also push more material towards disposal or incineration, making recycling more difficult and expensive.  Ultimately, the big question for the sector is not just banning these chemicals in future products — but how we deal with the millions of tonnes of materials already containing them.    Rant of the Week: Who Helps the Waste Sector Deal With This?  This week’s rant is focused on the practical reality of new POPs rules. The UK has obligations under the Stockholm Convention, so changes are coming — but once these materials enter the waste stream, operators are often left to manage the consequences with limited support.  We’ve already seen how difficult this can be with POPs in upholstered furniture. If PFAS and other POPs are tightened further, the sector needs clear guidance, realistic testing routes, and proper support on how these materials should be handled.  Otherwise, the risk is simple: more complexity, more disposal, higher costs — and another major environmental problem landing at the feet of the waste industry.

    35 min

  4. May 7

    Episode 109: Henrik Webster, CEO, Aspect Labs Ltd

    This week on Rubbish Talk, Alasdair is joined by Henrik Webster, CEO of Aspect Labs Ltd, to explore the often-overlooked relationship between the waste sector and insurance — particularly the growing challenges around fires, lithium-ion batteries, and risk management. Henrik shares his journey into insurance, starting in reinsurance back in 2013 before moving into the recycling insurance space. After seeing the challenges operators were facing firsthand, he co-founded his own Managing General Agent (MGA), eventually launching Aspect Labs in 2023. Today, the business specialises in property insurance for higher-risk sectors, including waste and recycling, while also developing its own technology and surveying services. A major focus of the conversation is how the waste sector has changed over the last decade — particularly with the rise of lithium-ion battery fires. Henrik explains how insurers increasingly pulled away from the recycling sector as claims and losses mounted, resulting in fewer providers, rising premiums, and stricter conditions for operators. While he acknowledges the insurance industry hasn’t always handled these changes well, he also highlights the scale of the challenge, with waste fires now seen as a major and ongoing risk. The discussion dives into the realities of insurance policies and why operators should pay closer attention to what they’re actually covered for. Henrik stresses the importance of reading policy wording carefully, understanding exclusions, and engaging with insurers earlier in the renewal process — rather than leaving it until the last minute. He explains that many policies are still based heavily on statistics and assumptions, but building relationships and allowing insurers to properly understand a site can help create more tailored and practical solutions. AI and technology are another big theme throughout the episode. Henrik believes that while regulation and public awareness are important, technology may ultimately provide the biggest breakthroughs in reducing fires — from AI systems capable of detecting lithium-ion batteries and off-gassing, to smarter risk management and monitoring tools. Aspect is already investing heavily in this area, both internally and through its own technology company. The conversation also explores wider business lessons, with Henrik reflecting on entrepreneurship, long-term thinking, and managing “existential risks” — major events like catastrophic fires that could shut down a business entirely. He also discusses emerging challenges for the sector, including solar panels on waste facility roofs, increasingly complex waste streams, and how modern legislation has transformed waste management into a far more technical and higher-risk industry. Towards the end of the episode, Henrik encourages younger people entering either insurance or waste to focus on relationships, communication and understanding the bigger picture. As AI automates more routine work, he believes the ability to collaborate, build trust, and solve problems across industries will become even more valuable. A fascinating episode that offers a rare insight into the insurance side of the waste industry — and highlights just how connected risk, regulation, technology and operations have become in the modern waste sector. Useful Links: Aspect Labs Ltd Website Henrik Webster LinkedIn

    52 min

  5. Apr 30

    Episode 108: Aaron McIntyre, Managing Director, AWD Environmental Ltd

    This week on Rubbish Talk, Alasdair is joined by Aaron McIntyre, Managing Director of AWD Environmental Ltd, to dive into the world of hazardous waste, entrepreneurship, and building a business in the waste sector. Aaron shares his journey into waste, which began in a somewhat unexpected way. Starting out in a science role working with chemicals in a lab, he moved into hazardous waste during a period of uncertainty — and quickly realised it was an industry he genuinely enjoyed. From there, he built up extensive experience across transfer stations, treatment facilities, landfill operations and major projects, including decommissioning work and site set-ups, before eventually taking the leap to start his own company. Now nearly three years into running AWD Environmental, Aaron explains how the business has naturally evolved into two key areas: hazardous waste services and consultancy support for other operators. What started as a cautious step into self-employment has grown steadily, supported by industry relationships and a strong technical background. A key focus of the episode is hazardous waste — an area not often covered on the podcast. Aaron breaks down what it actually means in practice, explaining that anything with hazardous properties requires a far more controlled and regulated approach. Unlike general waste, hazardous materials can’t simply be collected and taken away — they require detailed pre-acceptance checks, documentation, and confirmed disposal routes before they even leave site. This can often come as a surprise to customers, particularly when dealing with unknown or poorly labelled materials. Aaron also reflects on his career path, from hands-on technical roles to site management and eventually running his own business. He shares honest insights into the realities of the industry — including learning from mistakes (sometimes the hard way!) and how taking on responsibility for others fundamentally changes your approach to safety. Looking ahead, Aaron is focused on growing the business further, with plans to expand both the operational and consultancy sides. He’s also exploring opportunities around technology and AI, looking at how systems and innovation could improve processes within the waste sector. The episode also touches on wider industry perceptions, with Aaron highlighting the frustration around misinformation — particularly the idea that “nothing gets recycled.” Having worked on sites that do genuinely good work, he emphasises the importance of helping people better understand what the industry can and can’t do, rather than oversimplifying or misrepresenting it. To wrap up, Aaron shares advice for those entering the sector: get involved, ask questions, and understand the “why” behind what you’re doing. Waste is far more complex than it appears, and taking the time to understand the bigger picture can make a huge difference in developing a career. A great episode that combines technical insight, real-world experience and honest reflections on building a business in the waste sector — and a fascinating look into the often unseen world of hazardous waste.

    34 min

  6. Apr 23

    Episode 107: Kirstie MacDougall, Office & Training VQ Administrator, Albion Environmental

    This week on Rubbish Talk, we do something long overdue — shining a spotlight on one of our own. Alasdair is joined by Kirstie MacDougall, Office & Training / VQ Administrator at Albion Environmental, to explore the world of waste training, qualifications, and what really goes on behind the scenes. Kirstie shares her journey into the sector, having joined Albion over seven years ago from a financial compliance background. Like many in waste, it wasn’t a career she initially planned — but the opportunity to make a real impact through training and development quickly drew her in. Her role now spans everything from organising site-based training courses to supporting individuals through qualifications, including the all-important Certificate of Technical Competence (COTC). A big focus of the episode is the launch of Albion’s “Smarter Pathway” — a new approach to helping candidates complete their qualifications. Developed in response to client feedback, the programme breaks learning down into manageable modules, combining short videos, workbooks and ongoing support. As Kirstie explains, many candidates struggle to balance their day-to-day roles with studying, so this new format allows them to learn in smaller chunks, at their own pace, while still building the knowledge needed for formal qualifications. The conversation also reflects on one of Albion’s standout recent projects — delivering Sustainable Resource Management training to Glasgow City Council staff. Working with a diverse group of candidates, from new starters to experienced operatives, the project highlighted both the challenges and the importance of building confidence and recognising the value of frontline roles. As Kirstie notes, one of the most common phrases was “I’m just a binman” — something the training worked hard to challenge, reinforcing the critical role these individuals play in keeping cities running. There’s also an honest look at the realities of training in the waste sector. From candidates who are nervous about returning to a classroom environment, to the practical challenges of fitting learning around busy site operations, Kirstie highlights the importance of flexibility, support and understanding individual needs. Beyond the day job, the episode offers a lighter insight into Kirstie’s life outside work — from strength training – with some seriously impressive weights! To playing in a brass band in the Salvation Army. It’s a reminder that the people behind the waste industry bring a wide range of skills and passions to the table. Looking ahead, the focus is on continuing to grow the Albion Academy, expanding training opportunities, and improving how knowledge is delivered across the sector. Kirstie also shares a simple but important message for anyone considering a career in waste: keep an open mind. The industry is far broader and more complex than many people realise, with huge opportunities to learn and develop. A great episode that lifts the lid on training, qualifications and the people supporting the sector behind the scenes — and a reminder that building knowledge is just as important as managing waste itself. Useful Links: Kirstie MacDougall LinkedIn Smarter Pathway to CIWM (WAMITAB) CoTC

    28 min

  7. Apr 16

    Episode 106: Henry Mathias, Tranent Wombles

    This week on Rubbish Talk, Alasdair is joined by Henry Mathias, Chair of the Tranent Wombles — a volunteer-led litter picking group set up during lockdown that has gone on to make a huge impact in their local community. Henry shares how the group began in 2020, when people were looking for safe ways to get outside and do something positive. What started as a simple Facebook group quickly grew into a network of volunteers, with over 1,000 members online and a core group regularly out litter picking. Since then, the Tranent Wombles have collected an incredible 7,000+ bags of litter, tackling both everyday waste and long-standing fly-tipping issues. The conversation highlights how the group operates — from community litter picks to individuals taking responsibility for their own local patch. Equipment is funded through donations, local fundraising and support from organisations like East Lothian Council, but as Henry explains, the real challenge isn’t funding — it’s maintaining momentum and volunteer engagement over time. What sets the Tranent Wombles apart is their focus on going beyond litter picking. Alongside clearing waste, they’ve started enhancing their local environment through planting, community gardens and biodiversity projects, including creating a wildlife corridor through the town. It’s about giving their area a bit of “TLC” — making it a nicer place for both people and wildlife. Of course, the reality of litter picking isn’t always positive. Henry speaks honestly about the frustration of returning to areas that have been cleaned, only to find them littered again weeks later. Despite this, the strong community support — from people stopping to say thank you to wider local backing — helps keep the group motivated. A key theme throughout the episode is the lack of enforcement. Henry shares his surprise at how little data exists on littering fines and prosecutions, and how few penalties are actually issued. Both he and Alasdair reflect on the gap between policy and reality — with plenty of strategies in place, but limited action on the ground to prevent littering at source. The discussion also touches on wider systemic issues, from the impact of drive-through restaurants on roadside litter, to missed opportunities to use technology and enforcement more effectively. While volunteer groups are doing incredible work, there’s a shared frustration that they are often left to deal with the consequences rather than the causes. Looking ahead, the Tranent Wombles plan to continue their work — combining litter picking with environmental improvements and building stronger links with other local groups. There’s also a growing push to have a louder voice on issues like planning decisions and litter prevention. Henry’s message is simple: you might not be able to change national policy overnight, but you can make a visible difference in your own community. And sometimes, that’s where real change begins. A really inspiring episode that highlights the power of community action — and the need for stronger support and systems to back it up. Useful Links: Henry Mathias | LinkedIn Tranent Forrest Garden Tranent Wombles Facebook

    32 min

  8. Apr 9

    Episode 105: News Roundup

    After a run of guest episodes and milestone celebrations,Jane and Alasdair are back together for a packed news round-up — and there’s plenty to get through.   News Roundup Taxpayers to fund clear-up of huge illegal waste dumpsHuge illegal waste sites across England — including Kidlington and others — are set to cost millions to clear, all funded by the public. Jane highlights the frustration that taxpayers are footing the bill, while Alasdair questions whether a portion of landfill tax should be ringfenced to deal with these “orphan” sites. Corby quarry contamination fearsConcerns are growing that contaminated waste from a former steelworks quarry in Corby could be leaching into waterways. Both reflect on how historic waste decisions can resurface decades later — a reminder that landfill is never truly “done.” Petition to reinstate fortnightly bin collectionsA petition has been launched opposing changes to bin collection frequency. Jane points out that with food waste and recycling services now widely available, less frequent residual collections should be manageable — while Alasdair argues it’s more about behaviour change than burden. Teamwork lets bacteria consume plastic wasteScientists have discovered that three types of bacteria working together can break down plastics that individual species cannot. Alasdair sees this as a fascinating step forward, though still very early in terms of real-world application. Cockroaches may help turn plastic into fuelYes… cockroaches. Jane explains how microbes in their gut can break down polystyrene, though not completely — leaving smaller plastic fragments behind. Interesting, but not quite the silver bullet. Student invents microplastic filter removing 96% from waterA teenager has developed a method using magnetic fluid to remove microplastics from water. Both are impressed — and it’s a great example of innovation coming from unexpected places. Tool developed to detect recycled plastic contentNew technology can now identify how much recycled content is actually in plastic packaging. Jane notes this could be a game changer for accountability, while Alasdair highlights its potential to support EPR and compliance. Scientists realise microplastic tests contaminated by lab glovesIn a slightly ironic twist, researchers found some microplastic readings may have come from their own lab gloves. Raises questions about how accurate current data is — and how complex measuring the problem really is. Germany to reuse 220,000 tonnes of window glassRather than crushing glass, researchers are exploring how to reuse window panes directly. Both agree this is exactly the kind of thinking needed — moving further up the waste hierarchy. Squirrel filmed vaping in London parkA bizarre but sad story — a squirrel seen vaping after mistaking it for food. A reminder of how litter (and vapes) can impact wildlife. Villagers plagued by sauvignon blanc fly-tippingDozens of identical wine bottles dumped repeatedly in one village. Jane jokes about recognising the brand, but both agree it highlights ongoing issues with small-scale fly-tipping — and perhaps a mystery worth solving.   Rubbish Rant This week’s rant covers a mix of frustrations. First up, Simpler Recycling, which came into force on1st April 2026 — with both noting that while the system makes sense, the narrative around it being “too difficult” for households is wearing thin. Then there’s the “Exchange for Change” branding for theUK Deposit Return Scheme: Alasdair isn’t convinced it hits the mark, questioningwhether it will really engage the public — while Jane is slightly less bothered, but not exactly inspired either. And finally… a brief diversion into electric cars,with Jane sharing the stress of range anxiety and charging — highlighting that while the transition is important, the practicalities still aren’t quite there for everyone.

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The Rubbish Talk podcast is brought to you by staff from Albion Environmental, to widen the conversation about managing waste and resources in the UK. Each episode will interview a new guest who plays an important role within the waste and resource management industry. We will discuss everything from career journeys, balancing work and personal life, and generally just talk some rubbish. Get in touch by emailing hello@rubbishtalk.co.uk Episodes released Thu. 4pm fortnightly. LinkedIn: Albion Environmental Latest industry news: www.industrynews.albion-environmental.co.uk

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  • Creator
    Alasdair Meldrum and Jane Bond from Albion Environmental Ltd
  • Years Active
    2023 - 2026
  • Episodes
    117
  • Rating
    Clean
  • Copyright
    © Alasdair Meldrum and Jane Bond from Albion Environmental Ltd
  • Show Website
    Rubbish Talk

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