Diary of an IT Sales Expert

James White

The Diary of a Sales Expert podcast is all about sales success and sales failures and the whole journey around sales and selling. In the podcast share stories, ideas, mistakes, and learnings to help ensure you can become better at selling. If you would like to find out more visit my website: https://jameswhite.business/ Frustrated at missing your sales targets? Take my scorecard to find out why this is. https://www.missingsalestargets.com/

  1. Sep 9

    Building an IT Services Business from the Ground Up: Richard Blanford's Story

    In this episode, Richard Blanford shares his journey of building Fordway, an IT services business, from its inception in 1991 through various transformations, highlighting key lessons on sales, customer relationships, tendering, and business resilience. Richard Blanford also shares his journey of building and exiting a successful MSP business, offering insights on leadership, business growth, and preparing for sale. Chapters 00:00 - Podcast and guest introduction. 00:44 - Founding Fordway and early 90s PC networking. 02:42 - Launching technical support and early business growth. 5:07 - Pros and cons of public sector loyalty vs. retendering legislation. 07:47 - Shared industry backgrounds in data networking. 08:48 - Four golden rules for sales success. 12:08 - Learning from business mistakes and building resilience. 14:42 - Market shifts, outside mentorship, and public sector opportunities. 18:44 - 2008 financial crisis and shifting to recurring managed services. 21:35 - Public sector tendering challenges and moving to the cloud. 2 28:57 - Project delivery vs. service delivery models. 31:31 - Target mid-market focus and 24/7 client capability. 33:46 - Service charters, gold customer perks, and contract standardization. 36:57 - Knowing when to walk away from unsustainable deals. 38:58 - Decoding public sector tender matrices and clues. 41:12 - Cultivating strong references and specialized bid writers. 43:06 - Procurement frameworks and a 20% tender win rate. 46:05 - Shifting executive roles and the Entrepreneurial Operating System (EOS). 47:49 - EOS Visionary vs. Integrator dynamic and alignment. 51:21- Why managed services flips the traditional organization chart. 54:14 - Team culture, open exit planning, and staff cadences. 56:32 - Managing staff appraisals and Individual Development Programs (IDPs). 59:46 - Tailoring communication based on behavioral testing metrics. 1 hour 02 minutes - Strategic advice for modern MSPs and channel realities. 1 hour 06 minutes - Defining your business pond and standardizing service tiers. 1 hour 09 minutes - Realities of preparing an MSP for a private equity exit. 1 hour 14 minutes - Strategic alignment with buyers and timing your exit. 1 hour 19 minutes - Post-exit purpose, ownership management buyout strategies, and hard work. 1 hour 24 minutes - Maintaining physical fitness and a grounded circle of friends. 1 hour 25 minutes - podcast wrap-up. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- SUBSCRIBE and hit the ALERT button for upcoming videos! Want to know the secrets to sales growth? Sign up for my weekly newsletter to get weekly insights on how you can grow and scale your business or Sales career. https://www.jameswhite.business/newsletter-sign-up/

  2. Sep 2

    How To Qualify MSP Prospects In The First 15 Minutes

    This episode explores effective strategies for qualifying MSP prospects within the first 10 to 15 minutes of a conversation. Learn how to ask the right questions, identify pain points, and determine if a prospect is a good fit to save time and increase success. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction: Why Quick Qualification Matters 00:29 - The Challenge of Time and Energy in Sales 00:58 - Identifying Why Prospects Agree to Talk 01:24 - The Importance of Asking the Right Questions 02:17 - Understanding Current Support and Pain Points 03:14 - Using the LAPS Model: Listen, Ask, Probe, Summarize 04:24 - Avoiding Accusatory 'Why' Questions 05:22 - Measuring Challenge Level with Scale Questions 06:15 - Assessing Impact and Urgency of Issues 07:14 - Evaluating Decision-Making and Stakeholders 10:25 - The BAMPs Framework: Budget, Authority, Need, Timing 12:01 - Understanding the Cost of No Change 12:58 - Qualifying Based on Fit and Value 13:56 - Next Steps and Setting Appointments 19:36 - Inspirational Story: James Harrison's Blood Donation Journey Links: https://www.jameswhite.business/resources-old/52-of-the-best-sales-qualifying-questions-to-ask/ A bulletproof method to use for any FIRST sales call.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK-YfiTXDeU&t=5s 3 CRITICAL Words to Guarantee New Business https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSJPqGZPZck Learn to qualify your leads using BANT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9A2ZyVXaHRY -------------------------------------------------------------------------- SUBSCRIBE and hit the ALERT button for upcoming videos! Want to know the secrets to sales growth? Sign up for my weekly newsletter to get weekly insights on how you can grow and scale your business or Sales career. https://www.jameswhite.business/newsletter-sign-up/

  3. Aug 19

    The Right (And wrong ways) To Handle Competitors In Sales

    In this episode, we tackle a challenging sales scenario: how to effectively sell against an incumbent or competitor MSP that your prospect already likes. Learn how to qualify the relationship early, stay in control of the sales process, and highlight your unique value without criticizing the competition Chapters 00:13 - Selling against a liked or incumbent MSP competitor. 01:40 - Qualifying the opportunity and understanding relationship dynamics. 05:42 - Asking open-ended qualifying questions. 06:21 - Discovering why a prospect is exploring options without criticizing competitors. 08:48 - Acknowledging competitor strengths while highlighting your unique future vision. 11:08 - Embracing the idea of not being the right fit to build trust. 12:00 - Focusing on future security and productivity trends to give a reason to change. 16:13 - Using third-party articles to reinforce your value. 17:06 - Addressing the psychology behind human resistance to change. 20:53 - Focusing on the core drivers of buying: problems and desires. 21:24 - Explaining the customer onboarding journey and the four phases of sales. 23:49 - Walking away early from low-chance deals to save time. 25:00 - Inspirational closing story about John Parry's charity walk. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- SUBSCRIBE and hit the ALERT button for upcoming videos!Want to know the secrets to sales growth? Sign up for my weekly newsletter to get weekly insights on how you can grow and scale your business or Sales career. https://www.jameswhite.business/newsletter-sign-up/

  4. Aug 5

    Should MSP Founders ever stop selling personally

    In this episode, we address a crucial question for Managed Service Provider (MSP) owners: Should you completely step away from sales? While many founders dream of handing off sales entirely, the goal shouldn't be removing yourself from the process altogether , it's about removing the company's sole dependency on you. Learn why you will always be your company's best salesperson and how building a repeatable "sales engine" can scale your business and protect its valuation. Chapters 01:12 - Why founders are always the best salespeople. 01:48 - The difference between a company cheerleader and a sales bottleneck. 02:56 - How lacking a sales engine slows growth and lowers business value. 03:49 - The authority and credibility founders bring to closing deals. 05:21 - The need for structures and processes beneath the founder. 06:29 - Using trained staff to qualify leads and involving founders for big deals. 09:16 - Removing total sales dependency on the founder, not removing the founder entirely. 11:20 - How technical founders can use their experience in meetings without walking away from sales. 13:46 - An inspirational story about a refugee engineering solar projects in Germany. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- SUBSCRIBE and hit the ALERT button for upcoming videos! Want to know the secrets to sales growth? Sign up for my weekly newsletter to get weekly insights on how you can grow and scale your business or Sales career. https://www.jameswhite.business/newsletter-sign-up/

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The Diary of a Sales Expert podcast is all about sales success and sales failures and the whole journey around sales and selling. In the podcast share stories, ideas, mistakes, and learnings to help ensure you can become better at selling. If you would like to find out more visit my website: https://jameswhite.business/ Frustrated at missing your sales targets? Take my scorecard to find out why this is. https://www.missingsalestargets.com/

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