The Other Side of MS

Casey Murphy

The Other Side of MS isn't here to inspire you—it's here to tell the truth. This podcast gives voice to the raw, unfiltered stories of people living with multiple sclerosis—the ones you rarely hear. Hosted by longtime MS advocate Casey Murphy, each episode pulls back the curtain on the emotional, invisible, and often uncomfortable realities of MS. From navigating public spaces with incontinence, to losing careers, marriages, or mobility, these aren't just stories of strength—they're stories of being human. We don't chase silver linings. We hold space for pain, for humor, for grief, for resilience—and for the voices that deserve to be heard without being sanitized or simplified. If you're ready for a podcast that doesn't sugarcoat the experience of living with MS, this is it. This is The Other Side of MS.

  1. Aug 27

    S4_E13: Lisa Graham - Yes, I Have MS. No, It Isn't the Organizing Principle of My Life

    Lisa has lived with multiple sclerosis for 33 years. She calls it an unwelcome houseguest. It is there. She knows it is there. But she refuses to give it control of the house. Lisa is a former soldier, national champion bodybuilder, retired professional athlete, and cyclist who still trains, lifts weights, and measures most of her year in normal days rather than bad ones. She knows her experience is unusual. Her own doctor has called her a unicorn. And Lisa does not apologize for that. Her MS can still overrule her. Heat and humidity can leave her recovering for days. Her feet can stay numb. Cognitive symptoms exist. But those realities have never become the organizing principle of her life. That perspective has not always made her feel welcome in the MS community. It has led to disagreement, judgment, and one support group she entered on rollerblades and never returned to. Lisa's message is not that everyone with MS should live the way she does. In fact, she says the opposite: "I can help you understand my MS. I don't know about your MS." Sometimes the honest MS story is about loss, fear, and everything the disease has taken. And sometimes the honest story is simply this: MS is real. MS is unpredictable. And for Lisa, it still does not get to be the most important thing about Lisa. Bike MS: City to Shore September 26–27, 2026 Cherry Hill, NJ Support Lisa's Bike MS fundraiser: https://events.nationalmssociety.org/participants/797562

  2. May 28

    S4_E7: Dr. Mary Hughes — When MS Stops Being Clinical

    Dr. Mary Hughes has spent decades treating multiple sclerosis, researching it, advocating around it, and helping shape the future of MS care. But long before MS became her professional focus, it became personal. Two of her sisters were diagnosed with the disease nearly thirty years apart, forcing Dr. Hughes to live in the uncomfortable space between neurologist and sister, between clinical expertise and the reality that sometimes even the expert cannot protect the people she loves. In this episode of The Other Side of MS, Dr. Hughes reflects on what those diagnoses changed inside her, how they shaped the direction of her career, and the emotional tension of spending a lifetime helping families navigate a disease she still cannot fully control herself. The conversation also explores the racial disparities that existed for decades in MS diagnosis and care, including the long-held belief that African Americans rarely developed MS. Dr. Hughes discusses how those assumptions delayed diagnoses, limited access to treatment, and forced difficult conversations inside both medicine and advocacy organizations. Dr. Hughes completed her internship and neurology residency at Emory University and later trained in Electrophysiology at the Medical College of Georgia. She founded the Augusta MS Center in 2002 and later served as Division Chair for Neurology at Greenville Health System, where she helped expand neurological care and develop curriculum for the system's medical school. From 2008 to 2019, she served on the National MS Society Board of Trustees and chaired the African American Advisory Committee. She was inducted into the National Multiple Sclerosis Society Health Professionals Volunteer Hall of Fame in 2015 and continues to advocate for greater access to care, clinical trials, and patient education through her work at Premier Neurology. This is a conversation about medicine, family, advocacy, uncertainty, and what happens when your life's work becomes inseparable from the people you love. Support the Mission: If you would like to support the mission of the National MS Society, you can support one of the individuals who ride for MS at https://www.theothersideofms.com/about-bike-ms. They ride for MS. Your donation fuels the mission.

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The Other Side of MS isn't here to inspire you—it's here to tell the truth. This podcast gives voice to the raw, unfiltered stories of people living with multiple sclerosis—the ones you rarely hear. Hosted by longtime MS advocate Casey Murphy, each episode pulls back the curtain on the emotional, invisible, and often uncomfortable realities of MS. From navigating public spaces with incontinence, to losing careers, marriages, or mobility, these aren't just stories of strength—they're stories of being human. We don't chase silver linings. We hold space for pain, for humor, for grief, for resilience—and for the voices that deserve to be heard without being sanitized or simplified. If you're ready for a podcast that doesn't sugarcoat the experience of living with MS, this is it. This is The Other Side of MS.