It's Not What You Think with Celinne Da Costa

Celinne Da Costa
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A thought-provoking podcast for the one who's built everything you were told to build — and are now asking the bigger questions about who you really are and the story you're here to live. These aren't polished interviews. Celinne Da Costa dives deep with leaders who have walked through the fire — including Fortune 150 executives, New York Times bestselling authors, and 8-figure entrepreneurs — past the success story and into what it really looks like to stop performing and start living from your soul's truth.

  1. 16h ago

    What 22 Years of Law of Attraction Got Wrong (And What AI Revealed) with Ex-Google Marketer Jon Ray | EP 77

    If you've ever manifested the thing — the job, the relationship, the business — only to watch it crumble shortly later, this conversation will show you why. Jon Ray spent 22 years in the Law of Attraction world before landing on a reframe that changed everything: most people skip the first step. They glimpse the vision, they dwell on it mentally, but they never feel. The emotional capacity to hold what you've created — that's the work nobody wants to do. He left Google while it was still good because he could feel himself becoming someone who couldn't do misaligned work. He got sober and realized quitting the substance was the easy part; emotional sobriety was the real work. And somewhere along the way, he started using AI to interpret the Bible through a mystical lens — not as literal stories, but as a map for making the unconscious conscious. In this conversation, Jon and Celinne explore why all the frameworks work better after emotional processing, how AI can surface the places in your nervous system where you're still avoiding something, and what it actually means to stop performing authenticity and start living it. ON THIS EPISODE: 00:00 Meet Jon Ray and the provocative project that opens the conversation 02:34 Explore why binary thinking misses where all the truth actually lives 15:18 Discover Adam and Eve as rational mind and unconscious emotional content 31:24 Hear why Jon left Google while it was still comfortable — and what he'd do differently 39:22 Unpack what "performing authenticity" actually means in relationships and work 52:20 Learn why thoughts are a derivative of emotions, not the other way around 59:34 Get the phrase: "AI allows your authenticity to have resonance" 1:07:30 Understand abundance as discernment, not a vision board 1:15:42 Receive a practical 5-minute emotional titration practice to start today KEY IDEAS: 🔥 Feel → Glimpse → Dwell: Most manifestation work teaches you to visualize and hold it mentally. Jon's reframe after 22 years: you have to feel first. The emotional capacity to hold what you've created — that's what determines whether it lasts or crumbles. 🔥 AI as mirror, not machine: The tension you feel with AI output — where your body disagrees, where something feels off — that's the data. Jon calls it an "acupuncture needle." It's poking where you still have unprocessed emotion. 🔥 Joy and grief are the same river: You can't dam up the icky feelings without also damming up the joy. When you're feeling numb after achieving everything, it means you've compartmentalized the full spectrum. Humility is the willingness to feel every feeling fully. 🔥 Abundance is discernment: Jon's definition: "knowing what you need to know when you need to know it and then having the impulse to take action on that." No willpower required. That's flow. That's what the inner work unlocks. RESOURCES: Jon Ray is an ex-Google marketer turned writer, certified emotional processing coach, and AI-augmented builder. He uses Claude Code + Cursor + APIs to do the work of an entire team—from sales workflows to a 66-book publishing pipeline. After 22 years in the positive thought movement and 9 years of sobriety, his core insight is simple: all the productivity and success frameworks work better when you have done the deep inner emotional work first—and that includes how you work with AI. Website | Instagram | Facebook 💡 Mentioned in this episode: Art of Articulation Masterclass — free masterclass on finding the words that actually sound like you and landing your message in the moments that matter most. Celinne Da Costa is a podcast host, bestselling author, and executive coach for leaders navigating 'I've made it—now what?' She guides them to redesign their next act: more meaningful, more aligned, more fun... and led by their soul's truth. Website | LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Facebook 💡 You've done the inner work. You've lived the transformation. Now it's time to articulate it. Articulate is Celinne's live group program for leaders turning lived experience into a body of work — through story, nervous system clearing, and embodied practice that lets your truth come through without distortion. Apply now

    1h 24m

  2. Jun 11

    She Looked Successful and Still Felt Broke — A Case Study with Victoria Whittaker | EP 76

    Victoria Whittaker had degrees from Stanford and Berkeley Haas, a coaching practice she knew was her calling, and clients telling her she’d changed their lives. She also believed she wasn’t making money — even though she’d just signed a $20K contract she’d never let herself register as success. The shift didn’t come from a new funnel or a price-page edit. It came from subconscious reprogramming and nervous-system work that surfaced where her scarcity actually lived — and whose voices it belonged to. As her body steadied, her pricing did too. In this conversation, Celinne and Victoria trace how she raised her core program from $3,600 to $10K with clients who say yes from alignment, why she calls it a nervous system shift rather than a mindset shift, and how following that same steadiness led her to launch retreats and move to Hawaii. You’ll hear what becomes possible when you stop measuring your worth by your revenue and start leading from intuition and presence. ON THIS EPISODE: 00:00 Meet Victoria and the women she helps leave the corporate rat race 09:40 Explore why “my business was my life” is both a gift and a cage 11:55 Reframe peace and freedom as an internal state, not an external one 16:35 Discover how Googling “subconscious reprogramming coach” led her to Celinne 17:43 Unpack the untold story that cracked open her whole business 28:47 Name the difference between a mindset shift and a nervous system shift 47:19 Hear money become a tool — not a measure of worth, value, or love 53:32 Get the numbers: $3,600 → $10K, and clients creating $60K quarters 1:01:05 Witness the shift from “if I were three floors higher” to gratitude for the trees KEY IDEAS: 🔥 You were never broke — just asleep to it: Victoria came in certain she wasn’t making money, then realized she’d just signed a $20K contract. The first abundance shift is seeing what’s already in front of you. 🔥 Pricing is a nervous system event: Raising her rates wasn’t a thought she talked herself into. It was a regulated body that could finally hold the value — “it wasn’t a mindset shift, it was a nervous system shift.” 🔥 Money is a tool, not a verdict: When money stops being a measure of your worth, or “how much my father will love me,” it becomes a container for the work — and freedom and peace stop depending on it. 🔥 The pedestal is a psychographic: Victoria assumed Celinne only worked with millionaires. The real shared trait of a client is the willingness to bet on yourself — not the balance in your account. RESOURCES: Victoria lives at the intersection of strategy and intuition, helping ambitious women transform their corporate success into thriving service-based businesses they love. With degrees from Stanford and Berkeley Haas, she blends strategic thinking with deep intuitive wisdom to help women build authentic businesses that prioritize both impact and freedom. When she’s not supporting incredible clients in building their dreams, you’ll find her embracing her intuition (which recently led her to move to Hawaii!). As well as spoiling her goldendoodle Leo, or hosting her podcast Giving You Everything where she chats with successful women entrepreneurs about their favorite reality TV shows. Website  |  Instagram  |  LinkedIn 💡 Mentioned in this episode: Soul Alignment Meditation — free daily practice. Bonus: Celinne’s live laser-coaching segment with Victoria on her money/abundance codes is available inside the Substack community. Celinne Da Costa is a podcast host, bestselling author, and executive coach for leaders navigating 'I've made it—now what?' She guides them to redesign their next act: more meaningful, more aligned, more fun... and led by their soul's truth. Website | LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Facebook 💡 Ready to do the inner work that changes everything? Apply for private coaching with Celinne. If the thread about “the language we use” landed for you — Articulate is Celinne’s live group program for leaders who freeze in the moments that matter most, or know what they want to say but can’t get it out. It’s the story work, nervous system clearing, and embodied practice that lets your truth come through without distortion. I'm opening a tight container for people like you starting June 29th. 10 spots max. Apply now

    1h 18m

  3. May 28

    Your Limits Aren't in Your Design—They're in Your Conditioning with Human Design Expert Amy Elizabeth | EP 75

    If you've ever used your human design (or astrology, or any system) as a reason why you can't do something—this conversation will flip that entirely. Amy Elizabeth built a $10M+ human design company over five years, then made a decision that made no logical sense: she closed it. Not because anything was broken, but because something greater was calling. In this conversation, Amy shares how human design became her tool for limitless potential, not limitation—and how she navigated single motherhood, financial uncertainty, and a complete identity evolution by trusting the nudges before they made sense. Celinne and Amy explore what happens when you stop waiting for crisis to evolve, why conditioning (not your design) creates your limits, and what it actually looks like for women to collaborate from a place of personal power rather than need. ON THIS EPISODE: 00:01 Discover what human design actually is and why it's the science of differentiation 04:08 Learn the five energy types and what they reveal about how you're meant to live 10:27 Explore why human design feels limiting—and how conditioning, not design, creates the box 19:08 Hear Amy's journey from school teacher to seven-figure business owner during single motherhood 27:20 Witness what it means to trust alignment when life falls apart 48:13 Understand why Amy closed her $10M business to step into partnership 55:17 Learn what true collaboration looks like when women are already in their power 01:07:23 Receive the one truth about alignment that changes everything KEY IDEAS: 🔥 Alignment isn't about staying the same. If everything in your life looks identical to last year, you're not aligned—you're stuck. Human design isn't a box; it's a roadmap for evolution that reveals where you're misaligned so you can change it. 🔥 Your limits come from conditioning, not your design. Every time you say "I can't because I'm a projector/generator/two-line," ask yourself: who told you that? The design shows what helps you thrive—your conditioning decided that meant limitation. 🔥 Choose growth when nothing's wrong. The most courageous move isn't evolving because you're in crisis. It's choosing to grow from a place of power, where what's good gets to become excellent and what's excellent becomes greatness. 🔥 Collaboration requires personal power first. True partnership between women happens when everyone can already carry themselves. The choice to join forces isn't about needing each other—it's about creating something bigger than any individual could alone. RESOURCES: Amy Elizabeth is the CEO and creator of the multi-million dollar Human Design brand Align by Design, impacting thousand of people in true Projector style, as a 5/1 Splenic Projector, working between 6-10 hours in a work week, creating time freedom for her children and herself. Amy is a former teacher who trail-blazed in the Online Coaching Industry, bringing Human Design mainstream and changing her entire life, leaning into Human Design during the most trying moments of transformation. During the last few years, Amy elevated and rapidly expanded her business to Millions of Dollars, while raising three beautiful Manifesting Generator children: Layla, Lucy and Hendrix. Website | Instagram | Facebook | Podcast 💡 Ready to stop speaking from your head and start speaking from your heart? Join The Art of Articulation — the free masterclass that teaches you how to communicate in a way that moves people and reflects who you actually are. Watch Here. Celinne Da Costa is a podcast host, author, and coach for leaders navigating 'I've made it—now what?' She guides them to redesign their next act: more meaningful, more aligned, more fun... and led by their soul's truth. Website | LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Facebook 💡 The Burning Ground: One Woman’s Journey to Reclaim Her Soul and Ignite Her Inner Fire — Celinne's memoir about walking away from corporate New York at 25 and couchsurfing across 18 countries through 70 strangers' homes — is finally published! Get your copy Here.

    1h 16m

  4. May 14

    God Will Never Forgive You (And Why That's the Best News You'll Hear) with New York Times Bestselling Author Neale Donald Walsch | EP 74

    For 82 years, Neale Donald Walsch has been asking the same question his readers bring to his books: is there more going on here than meets the eye? The New York Times bestselling author of Conversations with God — a book that found 5 million readers after a publisher called it fiction — has distilled a lifetime of spiritual exploration into 21 short letters in his latest work, Letters to a Young Seeker. On paper, Neale has had it all: bestsellers, lectures to thousands, a life-altering dialogue with God. He has also had seven marriages, nine children, and a cardiac condition that means he can no longer drive. He is not his book. He will say that himself. In this conversation, Celinne and Neale explore why most of us have it all wrong about who we are — the difference between ego and soul, why understanding is more powerful than forgiveness, and what shifts when you stop seeking and become the source. Conversations with God is a book Celinne has recommended to every client she has ever worked with, and that history lives in this conversation. ON THIS EPISODE: 09:15 Hear Neale share the origin of Conversations with God -- the dare to a publisher that found 5 million readers 15:45 Discover why Neale says we're not here to learn -- we're here to remember who we already are 24:30 Explore the WHO Meditation: how to ask "who do I choose to be?" in any moment of pressure 31:00 Understand the difference between Be-Do-Have and the backwards way most high-achievers operate 43:00 Learn how to tell the difference between ego and soul -- and why the soul always points toward freedom, joy, and love 59:00 Examine why understanding replaces forgiveness in the mind of the master -- and what that actually means in difficult relationships 01:14:00 Receive the final awareness: stop being a seeker, be the source, and discover how resourceful you already are KEY IDEAS: 🔥 We are not here to learn - we're here to remember. Neale's central reframe: Earth is not a school. It's a contextual field where the soul comes to experience and express what it already knows itself to be. For leaders stuck in relentless acquisition, this is the identity shift that changes everything. 🔥 Ego edges God out. Soul produces freedom, joy, and love. The soul's messages always lead toward expansion, freedom, and love. The ego's always lead toward what you can get - and toward fear. EGO, Neale says, stands for Edging God Out. 🔥 Be-Do-Have - not the other way around. Most leaders operate on Have -> Do -> Be: when I have enough, I can do the thing, then I'll finally be who I want to be. Neale calls this completely backwards. You start by being who you choose to be. The doing and the having follow. That's why we're called human beings, not human doings. 🔥 Understanding replaces forgiveness in the mind of the master. You don't have to forgive anyone. You don't have to approve or condone. You just have to understand how they could have done what they did - because you've done something similar. Neale watched a woman release thirty years of resentment toward her mother in one sentence using this principle, and has never gone back to the forgiveness framework. RESOURCES: Neale Donald Walsch is the author of over 40 books on contemporary spirituality, including his latest Letters to a Young Seeker: Departing Thoughts from an Elder. He is best known as the New York Times bestselling author of the internationally acclaimed Conversations with God series, translated into 37 languages.  Website | Youtube | Facebook | Letters to a Young Seeker | Conversations With God Celinne Da Costa is a podcast host, author, and coach for leaders navigating 'I've made it—now what?' She guides them to redesign their next act: more meaningful, more aligned, more fun... and led by their soul's truth.   Website | LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Facebook 💡 Ready to come home to yourself and lead from there? The Burning Ground - Celinne's debut book on what happens when the life you built stops being enough. The Burning Ground: One Woman’s Journey to Reclaim Her Soul and Ignite Her Inner Fire — Celinne's memoir about walking away from corporate New York at 25 and couchsurfing across 18 countries through 70 strangers' homes — Order Here

    1h 13m

  5. Apr 30

    Surrender Is The Real Work: What Happens When Your Soul Asks You to Let Go | EP 73

    Real surrender isn't the Instagram version with flowy dresses and ethereal vibes—it's mascara running down your face asking God "why." I recorded this episode almost a year ago, in 2025—freshly back from sabbatical, in the middle of the most heart opening, beautiful sadness uncoupling of my life—and deliberately held it back to metabolize. Until now. Because someone needs to hear this from the messy middle, not just the integrated other side. If you're gripping what you know you need to release, this is for you. ON THIS EPISODE: 00:03 Explore the crossroads question that changes everything 05:43 Understand why life brings us decision points that test our faith 11:56 Learn the difference between soul pulling forward and brain holding back 18:09 Discover why we grip instead of trust (and the illusion of control) 27:24 Witness the vulnerable story of walking away from love for soul alignment 34:54 Recognize what surrender actually looks like beyond the Instagram version 52:19 Learn the anatomy of true surrender—active, not passive 01:02:55 Apply practical guidance for where you're gripping and what becomes possible KEY IDEAS: 🔥 Crossroads aren't punishment—they're initiation: Life repeatedly brings us to decision points that aren't random. They're invitations to remember who we truly are, to cross from our past self to our new self. You can choose to cross with grace or get dragged across kicking and screaming. 🔥 The cost of staying is higher than the fear of letting go: The year I resisted my soul's calling cost me my health (Lyme disease reactivated from emotional stress), my energy, my joy, and twelve months I'll never get back. Two months back in business generated more revenue than the first ten months of last year. 🔥 Surrender is active, not passive: It's not giving up—it's giving in. It's choosing to trust when your mind cannot comprehend why. The woman on her knees with mascara running down her face isn't weak. She's choosing faith over fear.Faith is what you have when nothing makes sense: It's not "this makes sense, I'll have faith." It's "God, this makes no sense. I have to have faith anyway." You don't get the evidence until after you've already jumped. 🔥 Faith is what you have when nothing makes sense: It's not "this makes sense, I'll have faith." It's "God, this makes no sense. I have to have faith anyway." You don't get the evidence until after you've already jumped. RESOURCES: Celinne Da Costa is a podcast host, author, and coach for leaders navigating 'I've made it—now what?' She guides them to redesign their next act: more meaningful, more aligned, more fun... and led by their soul's truth.   Website | LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Facebook MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE: 💡The Art of Articulation — a free masterclass on closing the gap between what you know and what comes out when you speak. 💡 p.s. If you're ready to stop sitting on the riverbank and actually cross, Living From Soul® is where that work happens. It's for leaders who are done gripping and ready to trust what's on the other side. 💡 The Burning Ground: One Woman’s Journey to Reclaim Her Soul and Ignite Her Inner Fire — Celinne's memoir about walking away from corporate New York at 25 and couchsurfing across 18 countries through 70 strangers' homes — launches May 26, 2026. Pre-order Here now and receive over $200 in exclusive bonuses delivered directly to your inbox.

    1h 31m

  6. Apr 16

    How to Stop Attracting the Wrong Relationships with DharmaRaj | EP 72

    In 2021, Celinne experienced a rock bottom — a breakup coupled by physical illness, suppressed anger, flesh-eating bacteria. It was the moment she realized she was the common denominator of her relationships issues, so she stopped dating for two years and started excavating. This episode is the full story: five relationship chapters, each a mirror for what still needed healing, told for the first time in this depth — with master tantra teacher and healer Dharmaraj interviewing her. In this conversation, you'll hear how the armor of independence quietly blocks love, what Celinne found when she traced her wounds back through her masculine and feminine lineage, and why becoming the right partner matters far more than finding one. ON THIS EPISODE: 00:00 Meet Dharmaraj — tantra teacher, holistic healer, and one of Celinne's closest witnesses to her journey 05:37 Discover why Celinne is sharing this story out loud — and who it's really for 10:16 Explore Chapter 1 — Mr. A: checking all the boxes, the seduction of being chosen, and the cost of loving someone for what they reflect back about you 14:17 Witness the rock bottom: physical illness, suppressed anger, and the moment she realized she was the common denominator 22:44 Learn what the two-year men's sabbatical actually involved — the tantra path, Alison Armstrong's work, and what really changed 37:51 Understand "laying down the sword" — why women's empowerment and men's disempowerment are not the same agenda 41:41 Hear the hypnosis session that changed everything: forgiving her male lineage and meeting Mr. J three days later 52:20 Explore Chapter 5 — Mr. N: ease, full love, a reset blueprint, and why they're consciously uncoupling 1:07:07 Discover what Celinne now tells clients: become the right woman — the list she gave to God, and the one she kept KEY IDEAS: 🔥The independence armor has a price. Building a successful career and saying "I don't need anyone" was Celinne's way of staying safe after early wounds. It worked — until she realized she wasn't just protecting herself from pain. She was blocking love entirely, and attracting relationships that reinforced the story she'd been running since childhood. 🔥 Every relationship is an exact mirror. You don't attract the partner you want. You attract the partner that matches where you actually are. The work is internal — no amount of better dating strategy changes what you're energetically broadcasting. 🔥 Laying down the sword is a skill, not a capitulation. Dharmaraj draws a clear line: women's empowerment and men's disempowerment are not the same agenda. Understanding how men actually think, communicate, and function — and meeting them there — isn't softness. It's intelligence. 🔥 You can enter with love and exit with love. The measure of how much you've healed isn't how long a relationship lasts. It's whether you can end it without a villain story — and walk away with the other person still in your corner. RESOURCES: Dharmaraj is a tantra teacher, holistic healer, and transformational coach who supports people through healing, sacred sexuality, and transformational work across the world. Tantra Transformation Retreat | Tantra Teacher Training | Instagram | Facebook Celinne Da Costa is a podcast host, author, and coach for leaders navigating 'I've made it—now what?' She guides them to redesign their next act: more meaningful, more aligned, more fun... and led by their soul's truth.   Website | LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Facebook 💡The Burning Ground: One Woman’s Journey to Reclaim Her Soul and Ignite Her Inner Fire — Celinne's memoir about walking away from corporate New York at 25 and couchsurfing across 18 countries through 70 strangers' homes — launches May 26, 2026. Pre-order Here now and receive over $200 in exclusive bonuses delivered directly to your inbox.

    1h 19m

  7. Apr 2

    Stop Manifesting Peanuts: How to Receive What Life Actually Has In Store for You with Bestselling Author Kute Blackson | EP 71

    Kute Blackson has spent 20 years teaching surrender to billionaires, CEOs, and peak performers. And his central claim is one most high-achievers resist: the reason you're not receiving what you want is because you're holding it too tightly. This conversation is also the story of how Celinne and Kute's paths crossed a decade before they ever spoke — and why that serendipity is proof of exactly what they're discussing. In this conversation, Kute and Celinne explore what it actually means to surrender when you have payroll to make, goals to hit, and an entire identity built on making things happen. You'll hear how to tell the difference between following your soul and following your conditioning, why truth-telling is the first step of transformation (no action required), and what becomes available when you stop manifesting peanuts and make room for the peanut farm. ON THIS EPISODE: 00:00 Discover the serendipitous decade-long story behind how this conversation came to be 05:15 Explore what true surrender actually means — and why high-achievers have it completely wrong 14:30 Understand the difference between surrendering to your soul vs. surrendering to your conditioning 22:00 Learn what all great leaders — from Mandela to Elon Musk — have in common when it comes to surrender 35:00 Identify what to do on Tuesday afternoon when you have payroll to make and no idea how to let go 41:30 Unpack how the ego forms, why it mistakes identity for safety, and why it deserves love — not force 57:00 Witness how following intuitive guidance that makes no sense leads to the life that makes everything make sense 01:16:00 Receive Kute's closing message for anyone standing at a threshold right now, hearing the call but unsure how to trust it KEY IDEAS: 🔥 Surrender is active, not passive. Most high-achievers resist surrender because they've been taught it means giving up. Kute reframes it entirely: surrender is the courage to follow your soul's deepest truth even when it makes no sense to your ego — writing the book you don't feel like writing, having the hard conversation you've been avoiding, going to Brazil when every logical reason says don't. 🔥 You're already surrendering — the question is to what. You are not choosing between surrender and control. You are choosing what to surrender to: your fear, your conditioning, and your ego's small version of your life — or something greater. When you see it this way, the "I can't surrender" argument collapses. 🔥 Stop manifesting peanuts. Ego-based manifestation keeps you clinging to a specific outcome, a specific person, a specific path. You hold it so tightly you become unavailable to what life is actually trying to bring you. Soul-aligned creation requires pursuing the goal with full commitment — and zero attachment to how it arrives. 🔥 Truth before action. If you don't know where to start, start with honesty. You don't have to quit, break up, or burn anything down. Just tell yourself the truth about what you feel. That single act begins a process that life will meet you in — and it will take you to the next step when you're ready. RESOURCES: Kute Blackson is a transformational teacher, speaker, and national bestselling author whose work on surrender and inner freedom has reached leaders, CEOs, and seekers across the globe.   Website | Instagram  | The Magic of Surrender | 8 Levels of Gratitude  💡Kute's upcoming event: Boundless Bliss Bali — a 12-day immersive breakthrough experience running June 26–July 7, 2026 (final year). Celinne Da Costa is a podcast host, author, and coach for leaders navigating 'I've made it—now what?' She guides them to redesign their next act: more meaningful, more aligned, more fun... and led by their soul's truth.   Website | LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Facebook 💡The Burning Ground: One Woman’s Journey to Reclaim Her Soul and Ignite Her Inner Fire — Celinne's memoir about walking away from corporate New York at 25 and couchsurfing across 18 countries through 70 strangers' homes — launches May 26, 2026. Pre-order Here now and receive over $200 in exclusive bonuses delivered directly to your inbox.

    1h 26m

  8. Mar 19

    The 1% Woman: How Sara D Morell and Her Team Raised $100M | EP 70

    She was married in a Parisian château, escorted through the Louvre in her wedding dress — and felt like death inside. Five years ago, Sara D Morell was a single mom on food stamps. Today Sara and her Sanctuary Project team have raised over $100 million and are building an eco-luxury, self-sustaining mini city outside Austin. What took her from there to here wasn't what she expected to talk about — until now. In this conversation, Celinne and Sara go into the parts that never make the stage: 16 custody hearings, hair falling out, crying on the laundry room floor while still building, and the moment on food stamps when a voice told her she would teach people to build wealth. Sara dismantles ego-driven manifestation, offers a radical reframe on co-creation, and speaks directly to every woman who has wondered why the outer success still feels hollow. You'll hear how Sara built her discernment muscle to trust the voice that has guided every major move — and why the real secret to everything she's built is this: trust, and go bigger. ON THIS EPISODE: 00:00 The version of Sara's story that never makes it on stage 05:12 Why manifesting from ego gets you a "Miserati" — and what co-creation looks like instead 13:34 How Sara holds grace, shame, and survival terror while still building 19:59 From homeless child to dancing at 17 to channeling a city: the burning ground that forged her 28:25 How to discern the voice of God from your own fear — and build the antenna that tells the difference 40:42 The Paris château wedding where she felt like death inside 49:03 The moment on food stamps when God gave her the ark 51:52 The real data on women and funding (only 1% of VC — and women generate more than double the return) 56:02 Why building community into the architecture of a city is the future KEY IDEAS: 🔥 Co-creation, not manifestation: The Law of Attraction taken literally can create shame — "did I attract this bad thing?" Sara's reframe: you don't manifest from your small self, you co-create with the divine's will. That's what takes you from wanting seven Airbnbs to building a city with the address 1111 bought for $11.11 million. 🔥 You build the antenna before you need it: Discernment isn't a gift — it's a practice. Stillness, silence, solitude every day. No junk media. Barefoot in the woods. The clearer your vessel, the clearer the signal. Start with small asks, build rapport with the voice, keep a miracle journal of every impossible thing that already happened. 🔥 The real cost of building at scale: Sara's story isn't rags to riches — it's 16 custody hearings, hair loss, crying on the laundry room floor, and getting back on the investor call. Grace, not perfection, is how you hold it all. And purpose — the single moms on her team who need her to succeed — is what gets her through the terror. 🔥 Women are the better investment, and the data proves it: Women-founded companies receive just 1% of US venture capital. They generate $0.78 revenue per dollar invested vs. $0.31 for men-founded companies. The funding gap isn't just unjust — it's a genuinely bad investment strategy. RESOURCES: Sara D. Morell is a speaker who has shared the stage before audiences of up to 1 million people in person at one time. She is the founder of Sanctuary, a 137-acre eco-luxury, self-sustaining development that has raised more than $100 million. She is also the founder of Orah HöS Family Clubs, known as the Soho House for families, a founding partner of DealmakeHERS. Instagram | Orah Wellness | Miracle Cottage  💡 Ready to stop speaking from your head and start speaking from your heart? Join The Art of Articulation — the free masterclass that teaches you how to communicate in a way that moves people and reflects who you actually are. Watch Here. Celinne Da Costa is a podcast host, author, and coach for leaders navigating 'I've made it—now what?' She guides them to redesign their next act: more meaningful, more aligned, more fun... and led by their soul's truth.  Website | LinkedIn | Substack | Instagram | Facebook 💡 Sara didn't build what she built by performing or proving. She built it by learning to speak from her truth. If you're ready to stop managing how you come across and start communicating from who you actually are — Articulate is the live coaching program where that work happens. Learn More

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A thought-provoking podcast for the one who's built everything you were told to build — and are now asking the bigger questions about who you really are and the story you're here to live. These aren't polished interviews. Celinne Da Costa dives deep with leaders who have walked through the fire — including Fortune 150 executives, New York Times bestselling authors, and 8-figure entrepreneurs — past the success story and into what it really looks like to stop performing and start living from your soul's truth.

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