Bird Dogs and Big Game

Tyce Erickson

Hosted by professional bird dog trainer and lifelong big game hunter Tyce Erickson, Bird Dogs & Big Game is all about gun dogs, bird hunting, western big game, and becoming a better hunter and handler in the field.We cover everything from bird dog training, upland and waterfowl hunting, and gear to elk, deer, and backcountry hunts, along with conversations with trainers, breeders, guides, biologists, and others who live and breathe the outdoors. You'll hear stories from the field, practical training advice, and plenty of discussion about both retrieving and pointing breeds.Whether you're training your first bird dog, working toward the next level with an experienced dog, or getting ready for your next elk season, our goal is to help you become a more confident handler and a more successful hunter.You can also catch the show weekly on the Outdoor Radio Network.Formerly The Bird Dog Podcast. Thanks for listening, and good hunting.

  1. 3d ago

    (Ep.69) Kenneth Witt of Gundog Nation: British Labs, Bering Sea King Eiders & Gundog Field Trials Overseas

    Kenneth Witt, host of the Gundog Nation podcast, joins Tyce to catch up after Tyce sold him a black Lab shed dog named Chief years ago. They trade hunting stories, from Tyce's llama-packed mule deer hunt in the Utah high country to Ken's king eider and sea duck hunt on St. Paul Island in the Bering Sea. Ken shares how he went from a family of musicians and English setters and coonhounds in eastern Kentucky to shed hunting, British Labs, protection-dog schools and, eventually, a podcast and radio stations in Texas. Then they dig into dogs: international gundog field trials in England and Scotland, why European dogs are never force fetched or e-collared, the myths about British Labs, Southern Oak lines, Tyce's field-bred Golden Retrievers and a UK import, Malinois and bite dogs with an "off switch," and where to find Gundog Nation. In this episode: Chief, the black Lab shed dog Tyce sold to Ken years ago, and why honesty matters in the hunting worldTyce's llama-packed rifle hunt: three mule deer bucks, a snowstorm and a tent blown overKen's king eider and sea duck hunt on St. Paul Island, Alaska: swells, fast birds and why adult eiders won't decoyGrowing up in eastern Kentucky: a family of musicians, English setters, ruffed grouse, Walker coonhounds and a grandfather who trained dogsFrom shed hunting and a British Lab puppy to protection-dog schools and the start of Gundog NationInternational gundog field trials in England and Scotland: beaters and flushers, the 'eye wipe,' and why those dogs are never force fetched or e-collaredBritish Labs and Southern Oak lines, plus Tyce's field-bred Golden Retrievers, a UK import and a puppy from 24-year-old frozen semenMalinois, Dutch Shepherds and bite dogs: drive, genetics and finding a dog with an off switchWhere to find Gundog Nation: a new episode every week on Spotify, Apple, Amazon Music and YouTube, plus gundognation.comGuest: Kenneth Witt, host of Gundog Nation Gundog Nation: gundognation.com Listen on Apple Podcasts: Gundog Nation on Apple Podcasts Watch on YouTube: Gundog Nation on YouTube Website: birddogsandbiggame.com The Gunshy Fix Introduce your dog to gunfire the right way, or help work through an existing gunshy issue with The Gunshy Fix. 👉 The Gunshy Fix Kuranda Dog Beds Kuranda Dog Beds ALL American Canine ALL American Canine (Promo Code: UTAHBIRDDOG) Gunner Gunner NuVet Supplements NuVet Supplements (Order Code: 56496) Paradigm Sporting Dog Paradigm Sporting Dog First Aid Kits HOSS Straps HOSS Straps (Promo Code: UTBD15) Have a Question for the Podcast? Have a bird dog or big game question, or a topic you'd like us to cover on a future episode? Email us at thebirddogpodcast@gmail.com or send us a DM on Instagram. Training & Breeding Utah Bird Dog Training Field Bred Golden Retrievers Utah Pointing Labs Instagram: @birddogsandbiggame @utahbirddogtraining @fieldbredgoldenretrievers Thanks for listening to Bird Dogs & Big Game — and good hunting!

    (Ep.69) Kenneth Witt of Gundog Nation: British Labs, Bering Sea King Eiders & Gundog Field Trials Overseas
  2. Nov 3

    (Ep.68) Pheasants Forever with Jared Wiklund: Pheasant Hatch, Drought, Winter Cover & Public Access (PATH)

    Jared Wiklund, Director of Communications for Pheasants Forever and Quail Forever, joins Tyce to talk about why pheasant numbers rise and fall and what it takes to keep upland habitat on the landscape. Jared shares how Pheasants Forever started with a newspaper column in St. Paul, Minnesota, and how a year-long unpaid PR internship turned into 16 years with the organization. Then they get into the biology: why drought hits pheasant chicks through the loss of soft-bodied insects, why a cold, wet hatch can wipe out broods, why pheasants only nest once a year, and why predation is the number one killer with weather a close second. They cover winter cover and why "pheasants don't grow in trees," the South Dakota CREP, the new Public Access to Habitat (PATH) program and its onX layer, strategic land acquisition, why Utah has fewer pheasants than the Dakotas, the huge sagebrush restoration work in Idaho, and how listeners can find a chapter or start one. In this episode: Jared's path: Luther College, a season as an Alaska wilderness guide, an unpaid PR internship and 16 years with Pheasants Forever and Quail ForeverHow Pheasants Forever was born from an outdoor writer's newspaper column about pheasants freezing on the side of the roadElk and bird dogs: Jared's cow elk with a bow in Wyoming, his Labs and pointers, and archery whitetails with his dadDrought, soft-bodied insects and chick survival: why pheasant hatch weather matters (peak hatch mid to late June) and why pheasants only hatch one clutch per yearWhat limits pheasants: predation first, weather second, hard winters, nest predators, and why coyotes get more blame than they deserveWinter cover for late-season hunting: cattail sloughs, shrubby cover, South Dakota CREP and why "pheasants don't grow in trees"Public Access to Habitat (PATH): paying landowners an extra layer for public access, 80,000 acres enrolled in South Dakota and a new onX Hunt layerLand acquisition and permanent habitat protection, plus why chapters keep 100% of the money they raise locallyUtah, grasslands and Conservation Reserve Program acres, quail and the Idaho sagebrush restoration projectHow to get involved: pheasantsforever.org and quailforever.org, the chapter map, and 3.3 million acres of habitat work last yearGuest: Jared Wiklund, Pheasants Forever and Quail Forever Pheasants Forever: pheasantsforever.org Quail Forever: quailforever.org Find a chapter: Pheasants Forever Chapter Finder Public Access to Habitat: PATH Program onX Hunt (PATH layer): onX Hunt Website: birddogsandbiggame.com The Gunshy Fix Introduce your dog to gunfire the right way, or help work through an existing gunshy issue with The Gunshy Fix. 👉 The Gunshy Fix Kuranda Dog Beds Kuranda Dog Beds ALL American Canine ALL American Canine (Promo Code: UTAHBIRDDOG) Gunner Gunner NuVet Supplements NuVet Supplements (Order Code: 56496) Paradigm Sporting Dog Paradigm Sporting Dog First Aid Kits HOSS Straps HOSS Straps (Promo Code: UTBD15) Have a Question for the Podcast? Have a bird dog or big game question, or a topic you'd like us to cover on a future episode? Email us at thebirddogpodcast@gmail.com or send us a DM on Instagram. Training & Breeding Utah Bird Dog Training Field Bred Golden Retrievers Utah Pointing Labs Instagram: @birddogsandbiggame @utahbirddogtraining @fieldbredgoldenretrievers Thanks for listening to Bird Dogs & Big Game — and good hunting!

    (Ep.68) Pheasants Forever with Jared Wiklund: Pheasant Hatch, Drought, Winter Cover & Public Access (PATH)
  3. Oct 29

    (Ep.67) Packed In with Llamas: Crew's Buck, a Storm-Blown Teepee & Big Bucks with Matt Bingham and Dane Erickson

    Tyce Erickson sits down with his little brother Dane Erickson and his friend Matt Bingham, owner of Pine Pest Control in Mona, Utah, to tell the story of their recent mule deer hunt. Matt tells how a preschool-age fascination with mule deer turned into a lifelong hunt for big bucks, and Tyce and Dane share how they grew up hunting with their dad. Then they walk through the trip: how the tags and the llamas came together, a six-mile pack-in with eight llamas (and some "llama drama" with Lewis), a midnight camp, and a morning of glassing big basins. They talk through Tyce's son Crew's dream about a buck and the shot that followed, the "no ground shrinkage" walk-up, a pair of sparring bucks that got away, a missed shot from an over-dialed scope, and Matt's five misses with a turret that was not zeroed. The night a 50 to 60 mph storm blew Matt's teepee away, Matt's last-day buck with his new 7 PRC, the missing llama on the hike out and Tyce's big buck wrap it up, along with the mindset lessons behind the hunt. In this episode: Meet Matt Bingham of Pine Pest Control (Mona, Utah), and how Matt and Tyce met over a pest control visitGrowing up hunting with Dad and brothers, and why Matt fell for mule deer at four or fiveHow the trip came together: the llamas, the tags, and bringing along Crew and DaneThe pack-in: eight llamas, a six-mile hike, and llama drama (Lewis, Kevin, Nebo, Prime and Timp)A midnight camp, a first morning of glassing, and Crew's dream of shooting that buckShots, misses and lessons: dialing a scope, rangefinders, bubble levels and zeroing your turretThe storm that blew a teepee away, Matt's last-day buck, and Tyce's big buckMindset: put in the effort, enjoy the process and trust itChapters (podcast player time, includes the 18-second intro): 0:18 Intro: welcome and what's coming (a lost llama and a tent in the wind) 1:37 Meet Matt Bingham of Pine Pest Control (Mona, Utah) 4:05 Matt's start: a preschool-age mule deer obsession 7:21 Tyce and Dane: growing up hunting with Dad 10:35 How the trip came together: Matt, the llamas and the tags 14:31 The pack-in plan: eight llamas and a six-mile hike 19:10 Llama drama on the climb in 24:33 Camp at midnight and the first morning of glassing 27:49 Working across the basin toward the bedded buck 30:15 Crew's dream: "I shot that buck" 33:26 Crew's shot and the walk-up (no ground shrinkage) 38:57 The sparring bucks that got away 40:21 Matt glasses the next basin, then the storm rolls in 44:01 A buck below the ridge, a paper-rock-scissors call and a long shot 49:42 Matt's five missed shots (turret not zeroed) 52:17 The night storm that blew the teepee away 55:34 Last day: Matt's buck and the hike out 58:42 Mindset: trust the process, put in the effort 60:03 The missing llama 61:44 Tyce's big buck (about 187 by Matt's estimate) and the extra push 63:38 Wrap-up Guests: Dane Erickson (Tyce's brother) and Matt Bingham of Pine Pest Control Crew hunted with his own tag after completing hunter safety. If you're new here: the show is now Bird Dogs & Big Game. Tyce also airs these conversations on the Outdoor Radio Network (ORN), and you can still find every episode here on the podcast. Website: birddogsandbiggame.com The Gunshy Fix Introduce your dog to gunfire the right way, or help work through an existing gunshy issue with The Gunshy Fix. 👉 The Gunshy Fix Kuranda Dog Beds Kuranda Dog Beds ALL American Canine ALL American Canine (Promo Code: UTAHBIRDDOG) Gunner Gunner NuVet Supplements NuVet Supplements (Order Code: 56496) Paradigm Sporting Dog Paradigm Sporting Dog First Aid Kits HOSS Straps HOSS Straps (Promo Code: UTBD15) Have a Question for the Podcast? Have a bird dog or big game question, or a topic you'd like us to cover on a future episode? Email us at thebirddogpodcast@gmail.com or send us a DM on Instagram. Training & Breeding Utah Bird Dog Training Field Bred Golden Retrievers Utah Pointing Labs Instagram: @birddogsandbiggame @utahbirddogtraining @fieldbredgoldenretrievers Thanks for listening to Bird Dogs & Big Game — and good hunting!

    (Ep.67) Packed In with Llamas: Crew's Buck, a Storm-Blown Teepee & Big Bucks with Matt Bingham and Dane Erickson
  4. Oct 20

    (Ep.66) Hunting Argentina: Red Stag, Ducks & Dove with Lucas O'Farrell (L.O. Hunting Service)

    Tyce Erickson sits down with Lucas O'Farrell of Lucas O'Farrell Hunting Service (L.O. Hunting Service), an Argentina waterfowl and big game outfitter who has been guiding and hosting hunters for nearly 20 years. Lucas shares how he built his outfitting business from scratch, then breaks down free-range red stag in Patagonia, high-volume duck hunting in the Buenos Aires region, Córdoba dove shoots, what trips really cost, and how to plan a combo hunt. Hosted hunt update: In Ep.65, Tyce mentioned his hosted Argentina hunt next July. This episode is with the outfitter for that hunt, Lucas O'Farrell. We're taking deposits now: 2 spots left for the waterfowl hunt and up to 4 spots left for red stag. To learn more or put down a deposit, email office@utahbirddogtraining.com or DM us on Instagram. In this episode: From spotlighting rabbits on his family's Patagonia ranch to fly-fishing guide to running his own outfitting serviceRed stag in Patagonia: the roar, archery vs. rifle, spot-and-stalk, trophy rules and what a stag hunt costsBringing a gun into Argentina: permits, paperwork and traveling with firearmsCan you do a DIY hunt in Argentina? Public land, national parks and authorized guidesDuck hunting near Buenos Aires: species, decoys and calling, limits, and why dogs work differently down thereDove hunting in Córdoba and combining ducks, dove, big game and fishing in one tripBooking, deposits, paying in cash and when to plan your trip (duck season runs June through August)Tyce's hosted Argentina hunt next July (ducks and red stag): email office@utahbirddogtraining.com if you're interestedMentioned in this episode: Lucas O'Farrell Hunting Service Website: birddogsandbiggame.com The Gunshy Fix Introduce your dog to gunfire the right way, or help work through an existing gunshy issue with The Gunshy Fix. 👉 The Gunshy Fix Kuranda Dog Beds Kuranda Dog Beds ALL American Canine ALL American Canine (Promo Code: UTAHBIRDDOG) Gunner Gunner NuVet Supplements NuVet Supplements (Order Code: 56496) Paradigm Sporting Dog Paradigm Sporting Dog First Aid Kits HOSS Straps HOSS Straps (Promo Code: UTBD15) Have a Question for the Podcast? Have a bird dog or big game question, or a topic you'd like us to cover on a future episode? Email us at thebirddogpodcast@gmail.com or send us a DM on Instagram. Training & Breeding Utah Bird Dog Training www.utahbirddogtraining.com Field Bred Golden Retrievers www.fieldbredgoldenretrievers.com Utah Pointing Labs www.utahpointinglabs.com Instagram: @birddogsandbiggame @utahbirddogtraining @fieldbredgoldenretrievers Thanks for listening to Bird Dogs & Big Game — and good hunting!

    (Ep.66) Hunting Argentina: Red Stag, Ducks & Dove with Lucas O'Farrell (L.O. Hunting Service)
  5. Oct 13

    (Ep.65) Don't Make Your Dog Gun Shy: How to Introduce Gunfire the Right Way

    Your dog has to be okay with gunfire to be a hunting dog. In this solo episode, Tyce Erickson of Utah Bird Dog Training walks through exactly how he introduces a dog to the gun, and why getting it wrong can turn a promising bird dog into a pet. He covers building drive with birds first, the shot-bird-retrieve sequence from a distance, reading your dog's personality, and how to use desensitization when a dog is already gun shy. In this episode: • Why every bird dog needs two things: a desire for birds and comfort with gunfire • The most common way owners accidentally make a dog gun shy (and why you shouldn't "test" your puppy) • Building drive first: dead birds, clipped-wing pigeons, wing-locking and keeping sessions short • Introducing the shot from a distance and working closer, watching for any change in demeanor • Confident vs. nervous dogs, and why it's fine if the introduction takes a month • Fixing a gun-cautious or gun-shy dog with a desensitization soundtrack • Weight gainer for hard keepers, extra weight for cold-weather waterfowl dogs, Kuranda cots, and HOSS e-collar straps • A possible hosted hunt to Argentina next July (ducks and free-range red stag); email office@utahbirddogtraining.com if you're interested • And as always: train for how you hunt Mentioned in this episode: HOSS Straps (https://www.hossstraps.com) Website: birddogsandbiggame.com (https://www.birddogsandbiggame.com) The Gunshy Fix Introduce your dog to gunfire the right way, or help work through an existing gunshy issue with The Gunshy Fix. 👉 The Gunshy Fix (https://www.gunshyfix.com) Kuranda Dog Beds Kuranda Dog Beds (https://kuranda.com/?partner=26722&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=KurandaPartnerProgram&utm_source=partners.kuranda.com) ALL American Canine ALL American Canine (https://allamericancanine.com/utahbirddog) (Promo Code: UTAHBIRDDOG) Gunner Gunner (https://gunner.pxf.io/c/7724546/2007558/24794) NuVet Supplements NuVet Supplements (https://www.nuvet.com/56496) (Order Code: 56496) Paradigm Sporting Dog Paradigm Sporting Dog First Aid Kits (https://www.paradigmsportingdog.com/collections/paradigm-first-aid-kits?dt_id=3443993) Have a Question for the Podcast? Have a bird dog or big game question, or a topic you'd like us to cover on a future episode? Email us at thebirddogpodcast@gmail.com or send us a DM on Instagram. Training & Breeding Utah Bird Dog Training www.utahbirddogtraining.com Field Bred Golden Retrievers www.fieldbredgoldenretrievers.com Utah Pointing Labs www.utahpointinglabs.com Instagram: @birddogsandbiggame @utahbirddogtraining @fieldbredgoldenretrievers Thanks for listening to Bird Dogs & Big Game — and good hunting!

    (Ep.65) Don't Make Your Dog Gun Shy: How to Introduce Gunfire the Right Way
  6. Oct 10

    (Ep.64) Big News: The Bird Dog Podcast Is Becoming Bird Dogs & Big Game

    Big news from the field: The Bird Dog Podcast is becoming Bird Dogs & Big Game, and I'm joining the Outdoor Radio Network on iHeartRadio as a host. In this short solo episode, I share how the new weekly radio show will work, why we're adding big game to the conversation, and a little more about my own background chasing elk, deer and more with a bow. Don't worry, bird dogs are still the heart of the show. In this episode: My new weekly radio show on the Outdoor Radio Network, a 24/7 outdoor station on iHeartRadio, and how radio episodes will be reposted here on the podcastThe new name: Bird Dogs & Big Game Podcast here, and Bird Dogs & Big Game Radio on the airMy big game background: archery, backcountry hunting with pack llamas, and hunts in New Zealand, Alaska and across the WestWhat to expect going forward: roughly a 60/40 split of bird dog and big game topicsGot a topic idea? Send us a DM on social mediaA quick rundown of the partners we use and trustAnd as always: train for how you huntWebsite: thebirddogpodcast.com The Gunshy Fix Introduce your dog to gunfire the right way—or help work through an existing gunshy issue with The Gunshy Fix. 👉 The Gunshy Fix Kuranda Dog Beds Kuranda Dog Beds ALL American Canine ALL American Canine (Promo Code: UTAHBIRDDOG) Gunner Gunner NuVet Supplements NuVet Supplements (Order Code: 56496) Paradigm Sporting Dog Paradigm Sporting Dog First Aid Kits Have a Question for the Podcast? Have a bird dog training question or a topic you'd like us to cover on a future episode? Email us at thebirddogpodcast@gmail.com or send us a DM on Instagram. Training & Breeding Utah Bird Dog Training www.utahbirddogtraining.com Field Bred Golden Retrievers www.fieldbredgoldenretrievers.com Utah Pointing Labs www.utahpointinglabs.com Instagram: @thebirddogpodcast @utahbirddogtraining @fieldbredgoldenretrievers Thanks for listening to The Bird Dog Podcast — and good hunting!

    (Ep.64) Big News: The Bird Dog Podcast Is Becoming Bird Dogs & Big Game
  7. Oct 6

    (Ep.63) Why Good Dogs Fall Apart on Opening Morning

    Should your young dog's first hunt be opening morning? In this solo episode of The Bird Dog Podcast, I break down why I tell my clients not to take a green retriever out on the opener, and what to do instead. I walk through two real client stories: a well-trained dog that shut down and hid in its blind on a dark, crowded opening morning, and an 11-month-old that started breaking from anxiety on a six-gun Canada hunt. We talk about why the jump from training to a real hunt breaks down (darkness, boat rides, cold water, crowds and nonstop gunfire), how to pattern your dog on your own boat and blind, why an afternoon hunt with one or two people sets your dog up to win, and how to use movement and teasing with a bird instead of the e-collar when your dog won't pick up a duck, a goose or a cripple. Plus: how to warm your dog up if you do hunt a morning (headlamp bumpers and “voice shots”), why I never correct a dog for breaking, how to explain your dog's first hunt to your buddies, and how the same rules apply to upland dogs. Website: thebirddogpodcast.com The Gunshy Fix Introduce your dog to gunfire the right way—or help work through an existing gunshy issue with The Gunshy Fix. 👉 The Gunshy Fix Kuranda Dog Beds ALL American Canine (Promo Code: UTAHBIRDDOG) Gunner NuVet Supplements (Order Code: 56496) Paradigm Sporting Dog First Aid Kits Have a Question for the Podcast? Have a bird dog training question or a topic you'd like us to cover on a future episode? Email us at thebirddogpodcast@gmail.com or send us a DM on Instagram. Training & Breeding Utah Bird Dog Training www.utahbirddogtraining.com Field Bred Golden Retrievers www.fieldbredgoldenretrievers.com Utah Pointing Labs www.utahpointinglabs.com Instagram: @thebirddogpodcast @utahbirddogtraining @fieldbredgoldenretrievers Thanks for listening to The Bird Dog Podcast — and good hunting!

    (Ep.63) Why Good Dogs Fall Apart on Opening Morning
  8. Sep 29

    (Ep.62) eBird, Merlin & Tracking Waterfowl Migration with Orin Robinson & Mitch Barry (Cornell Lab of Ornithology)

    In this episode of The Bird Dog Podcast, I sit down with Dr. Orin Robinson, a senior research associate at the Cornell Lab of Ornithology, along with Mitch Barry, the Macaulay Library's video project coordinator, who also works on outdoor-community outreach for the Merlin Bird ID app. We talk about how eBird and the Merlin Bird ID app work (including Merlin's Photo ID and Sound ID), how your bird sightings from the duck blind, tree stand, or turkey woods feed real waterfowl research, and how eBird Status & Trends maps bird migration week by week. We also get into pintail declines and northward shifts, redesigning the waterfowl breeding population survey, why teal migrate on day length while mallards follow the freeze line, game-farm mallard genetics and the Duck DNA project, the spread of Eurasian collared doves, radar tracking of migration with BirdCast — plus Orin's small Münsterländer and Mitch's English-bred black lab Riley, and a wild New Zealand shelduck hunt. Orin Robinson – Cornell Lab of Ornithology eBird | eBird Status & Trends | Merlin Bird ID | BirdCast Instagram: @cornellbirds @merlin.bird.id Website: thebirddogpodcast.com The Gunshy Fix Introduce your dog to gunfire the right way—or help work through an existing gunshy issue with The Gunshy Fix. 👉 The Gunshy Fix Kuranda Dog Beds ALL American Canine Gunner NuVet Supplements (Order Code: 56496) Paradigm Sporting Dog First Aid Kits Have a Question for the Podcast? Have a bird dog training question or a topic you'd like us to cover on a future episode? Email us at thebirddogpodcast@gmail.com or send us a DM on Instagram. Training & Breeding Utah Bird Dog Training www.utahbirddogtraining.com Field Bred Golden Retrievers www.fieldbredgoldenretrievers.com Utah Pointing Labs www.utahpointinglabs.com Instagram: @thebirddogpodcast @utahbirddogtraining @fieldbredgoldenretrievers Thanks for listening to The Bird Dog Podcast — and good hunting!

    (Ep.62) eBird, Merlin & Tracking Waterfowl Migration with Orin Robinson & Mitch Barry (Cornell Lab of Ornithology)
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About

Hosted by professional bird dog trainer and lifelong big game hunter Tyce Erickson, Bird Dogs & Big Game is all about gun dogs, bird hunting, western big game, and becoming a better hunter and handler in the field.We cover everything from bird dog training, upland and waterfowl hunting, and gear to elk, deer, and backcountry hunts, along with conversations with trainers, breeders, guides, biologists, and others who live and breathe the outdoors. You'll hear stories from the field, practical training advice, and plenty of discussion about both retrieving and pointing breeds.Whether you're training your first bird dog, working toward the next level with an experienced dog, or getting ready for your next elk season, our goal is to help you become a more confident handler and a more successful hunter.You can also catch the show weekly on the Outdoor Radio Network.Formerly The Bird Dog Podcast. Thanks for listening, and good hunting.

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