Host Luke Krubeck sits down with Cody native, marathon runner, school board trustee, and third-generation fence company operator Cathy Roes on episode 28 for an honest, open-book conversation recorded the week before her nine-year sobriety anniversary. From giving up a full-ride scholarship for an older boyfriend and surviving an abusive relationship in Florida to 11 years without going 24 hours sober, Cathy shares how losing her mom, and a message from her father about the dreams he’d been having, led to the night she took her last drink. Since then she’s built a life on radical honesty, community service, and keeping her word “because I said I would.” Luke and Cathy explore what addiction really looks like after the drinking stops, the loneliness of early sobriety, honesty without being cruel to yourself, and how strength training helped her cut an hour off her marathon time. They also dig into a life of service (running Midwest Fence, earning respect in a male-dominated trade, eight years on the Cody school board) and the thread that ties it all together: being intentional with the people you love. If you’ve ever struggled to quit something that isn’t serving you, felt isolated while trying to change, or wondered whether it’s too late to become who you want to be, this episode connects the dots. 🗝️ Key Discussion Points: 0:00 - Cold Open: How losing her mom taught Cathy there’s no do-over with the people you love. 0:35 - Intro & Housekeeping: Episode 28, album plug, and welcoming Cathy on a same-day invite. 2:32 - Turning 40 & Childhood Dreams: Aging as a privilege, broadcast journalism, a full-ride scholarship given up for a boyfriend, and why her goal now is simply to be a good human. 10:15 - Cody Roots & Leaving Home: Born at West Park Hospital, an abusive relationship in Palm Beach Gardens, two stints in Florida, and coming home after the 2008 crash. 14:17 - Life Now: Nearly nine years sober, a healthy relationship, marathons, and eight years as a school board trustee. 16:00 - Strength Training for Runners: Cutting an hour off her marathon time, waking up the posterior chain, and recovering well enough to sightsee after Berlin. 23:52 - Remembering Her Mom: A trip to Paris at 16, a love of travel and people, and spreading her ashes in Italy this Christmas. 27:53 - The Last Drink: Her dad’s 70th birthday party and the dreams that finally made him speak up. 31:44 - Misconceptions About Addiction: Why it doesn’t have to be crippling to warrant change, replacement habits, and choosing sobriety every day. 37:57 - Staying in the Middle of the Pack: Relapse after 30 years, why she still calls herself an alcoholic, and taking it one day at a time. 45:19 - Relearning How to Live: Eleven years without 24 hours sober, an appendectomy on her 30th birthday, and rewiring everyday habits. 48:24 - The Loneliness of Sobriety: Losing every adult relationship, building new ones on purpose, and the six-month turning point. 52:31 - Radical Honesty: Dropping the victim mindset, honesty without cruelty, and Luke’s third-person affirmation exercise. 1:01:27 - Midwest Fence: A third-generation business founded in St. Louis in 1942 and earning credibility as a woman on the crew. 1:05:01 - Women in Business: The “disadvantaged business” label, why she rejects it, and why reputation is always earned. 1:13:33 - Because I Said I Would: Keeping commitments, chasing the World Marathon Majors, and modeling follow-through at home. 1:21:41 - Serving Your Community: Why she joined the school board, bridging a divisive debate over armed staff, and classrooms-to-careers. 1:26:54 - Testing & Local Control: WY-TOPP scores, the standardized testing divide, and how Wyoming funds its schools. 1:32:37 - Write Your Own Eulogy: Luke’s reverse-engineering exercise and what Cathy hopes to leave behind. 1:36:44 - Gratitude & Closing: Service above self, recognizing how good you have it, and Luke’s “geometry of life.” 🔗 Connect with the Podcast: Luke Krubeck: https://www.instagram.com/lkrubeck22/ The Barbell Club: https://www.instagram.com/the.barbellclub/ Luke’s Album “Grounded and Center”: Available on all streaming platforms.