The AI Fundamentalists

Dr. Andrew Clark & Dr. Sid Mangalik
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A podcast about the fundamentals of safe and resilient modeling systems behind the AI that impacts our lives and our businesses. 

  1. 14h ago

    Token Economics (Tokenomics)

    Andrew and Sid break down the hidden costs of AI tokens, why current prices are artificially low, and whether AI tokens could become the next global commodity. As AI adoption surges and agentic workflows burn through compute, the underlying economics of large language models are reaching a critical inflection point. Join us to explore the rapidly shifting landscape of "tokenomics," the staggering hardware constraints behind the scenes, and what the true market clearing price for AI might actually look like. To help us unpack this, the hosts dive into the downstream effects of "token maxing," why true economic equilibrium in AI is far off, and how historical technological shifts like electricity can predict our AI future. Defining what a token actually is and how text is chunked and processed by specific models.The illusion of current token pricing and why heavy subsidization by tech giants obscures the true cost of production.Exploring the flawed "token maxing" trend and why organizations are improperly prioritizing raw AI usage over actual return on investment.The severe hardware constraints and geopolitical pressures, including skyrocketing GPU and RAM costs, that make running local infrastructure incredibly difficult.Analyzing the criteria for money to see if AI tokens can become a true currency, or if they are destined to act as a tradable commodity like oil.The "Jevons Paradox" of AI efficiency and why cheaper compute actually leads to massively increased, rather than decreased, usage.How the future of work will rely on "cyborging"—combining human talent with AI—to increase productivity, using the surprising resurgence of human travel agents as an example.This episode is full of economic insights and forward-looking predictions that are sure to change how you think about your next API bill. As we move into a new era of AI, it's the perfect time to explore the fundamentals of the next frontier! What did you think? Let us know. Do you have a question or a discussion topic for the AI Fundamentalists? Connect with them to comment on your favorite topics: LinkedIn - Episode summaries, shares of cited articles, and more.YouTube - Was it something that we said? Good. Share your favorite quotes.Visit our page - see past episodes and submit your feedback! It continues to inspire future episodes.

    Token Economics (Tokenomics)

  2. Jul 21

    Exploring political bias and persuasion in LLMs with Dr. Jillian Fisher

    In this episode of The AI Fundamentalists, hosts Andrew and Sid are joined by AI alignment and safety researcher Dr. Jillian Fisher to unpack the complex realities of political bias in Large Language Models. Dr. Fisher explains that bias isn't just a byproduct of noisy training data; it is also embedded directly into the architectural choices of the models, such as relying on a "majority vote" mechanism to determine the right answer. The conversation explores why achieving true political neutrality in AI is widely considered impossible due to the inescapable human element involved in AI development. Instead, developers must rely on imperfect approximations of neutrality. Dr. Fisher breaks down approaches like "reasonable pluralism"—which attempts to present all reasonable sides of an argument—and flat-out refusal to answer, noting that both strategies come with distinct trade-offs for user agency and safety. Listeners will also discover fascinating insights into the psychology of AI persuasion. Dr. Fisher highlights research showing that unlike humans, who typically persuade through empathy and storytelling, AI is most convincing to users through "information packing". Delivering dense walls of facts, combined with natural conversational fluency, can trick our brains into viewing the model as an unquestionable authority. Finally, the group discusses the critical need for socio-technical AI literacy, exploring how teaching the public about AI's limitations and its reliance on flawed internet data could be the ultimate tool for inoculating users against sycophantic behaviors and unwanted persuasion. What did you think? Let us know. Do you have a question or a discussion topic for the AI Fundamentalists? Connect with them to comment on your favorite topics: LinkedIn - Episode summaries, shares of cited articles, and more.YouTube - Was it something that we said? Good. Share your favorite quotes.Visit our page - see past episodes and submit your feedback! It continues to inspire future episodes.

    Exploring political bias and persuasion in LLMs with Dr. Jillian Fisher

  3. May 5

    Metaphysics and modern AI: What is Reasoning and Thinking?

    In this episode we conclude our  series about Metaphysics and modern AI, we explore the definitions of consciousness, reasoning, and thinking to understand if AI possesses these traits. From examining legal accountability and the concept of personhood to analyzing human cognitive frameworks, we map out the differences between actual contemplative problem-solving and probabilistic pattern recognition. The episode covers:  Defining consciousness, reasoning, and what it means to be a "thinking thing"The Turing Test as a low bar and why natural language capabilities create the illusion of intelligenceAccountability and agency: Why AI models like Claude are not legally recognized as personsDaniel Kahneman’s System 1 (fast heuristics) vs. System 2 (contemplative reasoning) thinkingWhy LLMs function primarily as System 1 pattern recognizers rather than true reasonersComplex systems, Descartes' dualism, and whether thinking is an emergent property requiring a physical bodyHow chatbots use psychological mirroring, filler words, and pauses to trick human biasesThe dangers of anthropomorphizing AI driven by fear of change or financial incentivesThis is the final episode in our metaphysics and AI series. You can find the previous episodes here: Metaphysics and modern AI: What is causality? Metaphysics and modern AI: What is reality? Metaphysics and modern AI: What is thinking? - Series Intro What did you think? Let us know. Do you have a question or a discussion topic for the AI Fundamentalists? Connect with them to comment on your favorite topics: LinkedIn - Episode summaries, shares of cited articles, and more.YouTube - Was it something that we said? Good. Share your favorite quotes.Visit our page - see past episodes and submit your feedback! It continues to inspire future episodes.

    Metaphysics and modern AI: What is Reasoning and Thinking?

  4. Apr 21

    Beyond Boosted Trees: Christoph Molnar on the Rise of Tabular Foundation Models

    As the AI landscape evolves, the methods we use to process structured data are undergoing a silent revolution. Join us to explore how Tabular Foundation Models (TFMs) are challenging the decade-long reign of tree-based algorithms, why the traditional "train and predict" workflow is being replaced by "in-context learning," and what this shift means for the future of resilient modeling. To help us, Christoph Molnar, renowned expert in machine learning interpretability and author of the Mindful Modeler newsletter, joins us to share his perspective on the emergence of tabular transformers, the surprising power of synthetic data, and how to maintain model safety in a world without parameter updates. The decline of the "fit and predict" paradigm in tabular dataTransformer architectures vs. traditional models like XGBoost and LightGBMIn-context learning: Predicting without traditional training stepsThe role of Structural Causal Models (SCMs) in generating training dataWhy models trained on "math and probability" succeed on real-world datasetsHardware accessibility and running foundation models on local MacBooksIntegrating SHAP values and conformal prediction for model interpretabilityThe future of the data science workflow: One tool among many or a total shift?This episode is full of technical insights and forward-looking predictions that are sure to change how you approach your next dataset. As we move into a new era of AI, it’s the perfect time to explore the fundamentals of the next frontier! What did you think? Let us know. Do you have a question or a discussion topic for the AI Fundamentalists? Connect with them to comment on your favorite topics: LinkedIn - Episode summaries, shares of cited articles, and more.YouTube - Was it something that we said? Good. Share your favorite quotes.Visit our page - see past episodes and submit your feedback! It continues to inspire future episodes.

  5. Mar 3

    AI and the lost art of reading

    As information sources have become abundant and attention spans have shortened in the age of AI, we take on the lost art of reading. Join us to explore why reading rates are falling, how that shift affects judgment and opportunity, and how interdisciplinary books help us see patterns across history, economics, and technology.  To help us, Alisa Rusanoff, CEO of Eltech AI, joins us to share her perspective on reading, debate volume versus depth, and offer practical ways to reclaim attention and read with intention. Evidence on declining reading rates among adults, teens and childrenNoise versus signal in the attention economyMental models and interdisciplinary synthesis for better decisionsAI’s limits and why human integration still mattersCycles in debt, trade, demography, and geopoliticsFiction as a cultural sensor for lived experienceWealth gaps, polarization and the need for critical thinkingPractical habits to train feeds and protect reading timeChallenge to read, reflect, and apply insightsFor people worried if they are reading enough: Reading just 1 book a year puts you in the top 60% of readersRead 4 books a year to be in the top 50% of readersRead 10 books a year to be in the top 20% of readersFor those looking to be in the top 5% of readers, expect to read at least 50 booksThis episode is full of research and fun connections that are sure to make you think positively about your commitment to reading. At the time of this episode, it's not too late to join the top 20% in 2026! What did you think? Let us know. Do you have a question or a discussion topic for the AI Fundamentalists? Connect with them to comment on your favorite topics: LinkedIn - Episode summaries, shares of cited articles, and more.YouTube - Was it something that we said? Good. Share your favorite quotes.Visit our page - see past episodes and submit your feedback! It continues to inspire future episodes.

  6. Jan 27

    Metaphysics and modern AI: What is causality?

    In this episode of our series about Metaphysics and modern AI, we break causality down to first principles and explain how to tell factual mechanisms from convincing correlations. From gold-standard Randomized Control Trials (RCT) to natural experiments and counterfactuals, we map the tools that build trustworthy models and safer AI. Defining causes, effects, and common causal structuresGestalt theory: Why correlation misleads and how pattern-seeking tricks usStatistical association vs causal explanationRCTs and why randomization mattersNatural experiments as ethical, scalable alternativesJudea Pearl’s do-calculus, counterfactuals, and first-principles modelsLimits of causality, sample size, and inferenceBuilding resilient AI with causal grounding and governance This is the fourth episode in our metaphysics series. Each topic in the series is leading to the fundamental question, "Should AI try to think?" Check out previous episodes: Series IntroWhat is reality?What is space and time?If conversations like this sharpen your curiosity and help you think more clearly about complex systems, then step away from your keyboard and enjoy this journey with us. What did you think? Let us know. Do you have a question or a discussion topic for the AI Fundamentalists? Connect with them to comment on your favorite topics: LinkedIn - Episode summaries, shares of cited articles, and more.YouTube - Was it something that we said? Good. Share your favorite quotes.Visit our page - see past episodes and submit your feedback! It continues to inspire future episodes.

  7. Jan 6

    Why validity beats scale when building multi‑step AI systems

    In this episode, Dr. Sebastian (Seb) Benthall joins us to discuss research from his and Andrew's paper entitled “Validity Is What You Need” for agentic AI that actually works in the real world.  Our discussion connects systems engineering, mechanism design, and requirements to multi‑step AI that creates enterprise impact to achieve measurable outcomes. Defining agentic AI beyond LLM hypeLimits of scale and the need for multi‑step controlTool use, compounding errors, and guardrailsSystems engineering patterns for AI reliabilityPrincipal–agent framing for governanceMechanism design for multi‑stakeholder alignmentRequirements engineering as the crux of validityHybrid stacks: LLM interface, deterministic solversRegression testing through model swaps and driftMoving from universal copilots to fit‑for‑purpose agentsYou can also catch more of Seb's research on our podcast. Tune in to Contextual integrity and differential privacy: Theory versus application. What did you think? Let us know. Do you have a question or a discussion topic for the AI Fundamentalists? Connect with them to comment on your favorite topics: LinkedIn - Episode summaries, shares of cited articles, and more.YouTube - Was it something that we said? Good. Share your favorite quotes.Visit our page - see past episodes and submit your feedback! It continues to inspire future episodes.

  8. 12/22/2025

    2025 AI review: Why LLMs stalled and the outlook for 2026

    Here it is! We review the year where scaling large AI models hit its ceiling, Google reclaimed momentum with efficient vertical integration, and the market shifted from hype to viability.  Join us as we talk about why human-in-the-loop is failing, why generative AI agents validating other agents compounds errors, and how small expert data quietly beat the big models. • Google’s resurgence with Gemini 3.0 and TPU-driven efficiency • Monetization pressures and ads in co-pilot assistants • Diminishing returns from LLM scaling • Human-in-the-loop pitfalls and incentives • Agents vs validation and compounding error • Small, high-quality data outperforming synthetic • Expert systems, causality, and interpretability • Research trends return toward statistical rigor • 2026 outlook for ROI, governance, and trust We remain focused on the responsible use of AI. And while the market continues to adjust expectations for return on investment from AI, we're excited to see companies exploring "return on purpose" as the new foray into transformative AI systems for their business.  What are you excited about for AI in 2026?  What did you think? Let us know. Do you have a question or a discussion topic for the AI Fundamentalists? Connect with them to comment on your favorite topics: LinkedIn - Episode summaries, shares of cited articles, and more.YouTube - Was it something that we said? Good. Share your favorite quotes.Visit our page - see past episodes and submit your feedback! It continues to inspire future episodes.

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A podcast about the fundamentals of safe and resilient modeling systems behind the AI that impacts our lives and our businesses. 

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  • Creator
    Dr. Andrew Clark & Dr. Sid Mangalik
  • Years Active
    2023 - 2026
  • Episodes
    50
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