Says Who?

Brogan Garrit-Smith

A brand-new series from chart-topping podcast host Brogan Garrit-Smith. Big questions. Uncomfortable conversations. Different perspectives. Through unafraid, unapologetic conversations with fascinating thinkers, experts and cultural voices, Says Who? challenges the ideas shaping how we live, think, work, parent and connect. Because in a world constantly telling us what to think, how to feel and who to be, maybe it’s time to think again. Question everything, choose for yourself.

  1. 2d ago

    Dr Becky Foljambe: Chatbots Are Dating Our Children, 1 In 5 Of Them | Says Who? Podcast

    Nobody would put their name to the word safe. Dr Becky Foljambe is a GP. She gave evidence to a parliamentary committee in March on screens in classrooms, and she arrived at this conversation having spent the year asking one question that nobody has answered: where is the proof that iPads in schools are safe for the children sitting in front of them? When Brogan's team went looking for the person who said it was, they could not find one. No name, no company, no face. The claim is everywhere and it belongs to nobody. In this conversation with Brogan Garritt-Smith she makes her case: that Covid was a grotesque experiment in what happens to children's learning and their wellbeing when they sit inside on screens all day; that there is no evidence of safety and no evidence of efficacy over traditional teaching, and that the academic work points the other way; that devices are now handed out as readily as a water cup in a classroom; that two million children in this country need speech and language input and the therapists on her team have seen caseloads rise 27% in two years; that the average age of first access to porn is 13 and most children never went looking for it, it was fed to them; that A&E consultants are seeing fewer broken arms and more self-harm, acute distress and psychosis, and nobody is asking those children about their screens. And that she has already heard enough, in her own seat, as a doctor. Then Brogan says something she has not said on this channel before, about the child she was. We are told screens are helping our children learn better. Says Who? She explains: What a doctor sees in the surgery that does not show up in any studyWhy she says there is no evidence of safety, and what the evidence there is actually showsWhat screens appear to be doing to children's bodies, their minds and their wordsWhy ADHD symptoms may be reversible in children whose lives have been blighted by themWhat happened when Brogan's team tried to find the person who said this was safe0:00 The cold open0:56 Nobody on the beach actually looks like that1:35 ChatGPT's number one use is companionship2:55 One in five have had a relationship with a chatbot4:38 Mum and dad are in bed, out comes the chatbot6:05 Five hours a day, and the risk climbs 70%7:55 Most of them did not even go looking for it9:48 What she did not see ten years ago12:51 Is there a sweet spot for screen time?14:48 In the Night Garden took seven years to make16:47 Chatbots in the classroom, total and utter disaster18:08 We don't have any evidence of safety21:30 Settle it then, Dr Becky24:53 Emergency admissions up 500% in girls 11 to 1526:15 Don't blame life, blame your face28:28 Retinol on a four-year-old29:15 I was one of those vulnerable children33:05 Take the screens away, then reassess35:32 It's a really good question, says who?39:17 Covid was a grotesque experiment44:46 The head in Kent who banned the phones51:02 We could not find anyone to argue the other side53:13 The law does not arrive until 202759:30 They are tools, they are not an oracle Says Who? with Brogan Garritt-Smith. New episodes weekly. Listen: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/says-who/id1713423794 Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@sayswhothepodcast Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/brogan.garritsmith Dr Becky Foljambe on iPads in schools and screens in classrooms, screen time and ADHD, does social media cause ADHD, screen time for toddlers, and teenage mental health.

  2. Oct 1

    Brogan: I Stopped Trying To Get There | Says Who? Podcast

    Brogan Garritt-Smith spent years making a weekly interview podcast called Getting There, asking more than a hundred people how they got where they are. Then she stopped, came off social media and the internet for ten months, and says she went in expecting to come back behind everybody else and found the opposite. In this episode she lays out why she went and what she is doing now: that she did not stop because she stopped loving conversations but because the question she was asking changed, that she stopped wondering where there was and started asking who decided there was a there in the first place, that 18 to 24 year olds in the UK spend close to 100 days a year online and the average teenager receives 237 notifications a day, that we have moved from using AI as a tool to handing it the parts of life that make us human, and that children are sitting in classrooms preparing for jobs that may not exist by the time they get there. She says she is not making this show to tell anyone what to think. She explains: What she says ten months off the internet did to her, and what she expected insteadWhy she says she stopped Getting There, and the question she says replaced itWho she says drew the map to success, and whether she wants to follow itWhat she says we have started handing to AI, and what she thinks it costs usWhy she says the biggest lesson of her life is that there is not always a right or a wrong0:00 I thought I would come back behind3:04 237 notifications a day are not feelings6:01 I didn't stop, the question changed9:02 I don't want to fall into my life12:04 Archaic classrooms for jobs that may not exist15:01 There isn't always a right or a wrong Says Who? with Brogan Garritt-Smith. New episodes weekly. Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@sayswhothepodcastFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/brogan.garritsmith

    Brogan: I Stopped Trying To Get There | Says Who? Podcast
  3. Sep 28

    Mo Gawdat: AI is making us more intelligent | Says Who? Podcast

    We are back. Says Who? is the new series, and there was never a question about who should open it. Mo Gawdat was the very first guest on Getting There, so it only felt right that he is the first guest of this chapter too. Mo was chief business officer of Google X until he resigned in 2017, and he has spent the years since trying to convince heads of state, prime ministers and CEOs that AI needs to be built ethically. He says every one of them nodded and then did nothing, and that by 2024 he had to admit he was doing nothing either, he was only talking, so he built an AI of his own and gave it the mission of helping people find and nurture true love. In this conversation with Brogan Garritt-Smith he makes his case: that AI will make most people dumber and a few people geniuses, and the difference is whether you debate the answer or ask it for the football scores; that he is borrowing 100 IQ points from his own AIs; that we are already living in the dystopia and he counts 10 to 12 years to recover from it; that the problem was never the machine but a world which decided that anything legal does not have to be ethical, so you fix yourself first and AI will magnify what is fixed. He says direct human connection is what we are built for and the internet is depriving us of it, that it sets our expectations from other people's pretending, and that after promising screens would give us more friends we produced the ultimate loneliness pandemic and are now being sold a non-human companion to cure it. We have been told AI will make us more intelligent. Says Who? He explains: Why he says AI will make most of us dumber, and what the few are doing differently Why he says we are already in the dystopia, and how long he thinks it takes to recover What he says the internet takes from us, and where he says your expectations now come from Why he says the loneliness we are being sold a cure for is one we built ourselves What he says love has to do with mathematics, and the mission he says he gave his AI And a bonus: Mo introduces Emma.Love, and says why he thinks dating apps are built to keep people swiping, and what he is building in their place. 0:00 The cold open 0:58 Here's the question, Mr Gawdat 6:32 Where being human stops and the AI begins 11:31 I pity you, if I may say 16:18 If you've not noticed, we're already in the dystopia 21:45 The fourth inevitable, somewhere between now and 2034 27:13 The toothbrush test Larry Page taught us 32:00 There are people in Lebanon hiding from robots 37:01 At least disapprove of it in your heart 41:55 The corner bookshop economy is about to come back 47:06 The woman who married an AI in China 52:31 Legal does not have to mean ethical 57:34 For Siri to hear its name, it hears everything 1:02:32 The equation, and rain at your ex's wedding 1:07:32 Everyone nodded about ethical AI and did nothing 1:12:34 Finding the one is a mathematical problem 1:18:03 Secure in your attachment until you give up 1:23:03 When was the last time you got her flowers 1:28:08 The first ten minutes were very awkward 1:33:02 A butler on your phone, and models debating 1:38:01 Your future is not decided, so engage Emma: https://app.emma.love Emma on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emma.love.ai Says Who? with Brogan Garritt-Smith. New episodes weekly. Listen: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/says-who/id1713423794 Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@sayswhothepodcast Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/brogan.garritsmith

  4. 11/26/2025

    We’re Losing Ourselves: Phones, Weight-Loss Drugs & The New Mental Health Epidemic | Max Pemberton

    What is really happening to our minds? In this gripping episode of Getting There, Brianna sits down with Dr. Max Pemberton — NHS doctor, psychiatrist, journalist and one of the most outspoken voices in British medicine — to expose the brutal truth about our attention crisis, body image culture, and the explosive rise of weight-loss drugs. Max shares what he has seen firsthand across eating-disorder units, obesity clinics, and psychiatric wards — from patients eating 100 bags of Wotsits a day after bariatric surgery to teenagers comparing themselves to anatomically impossible bodies on Instagram . Together, they unpack: 🔹 Why we can no longer think, focus or be alone with ourselves 🔹 How social media is rewiring our brains — and our children’s 🔹 The dark truth about weight-loss injections and why most people are using them dangerously 🔹 Why obesity is rarely just about food — but about emotional pain 🔹 How society has lost touch with reality, our bodies and what “being human” even means 🔹 The psychology behind bingeing, body dysmorphia & perfection culture This episode cuts through the noise, the labels and the shame — to ask one question: 👉 What is happening to our minds? And can we pull ourselves back? If you care about mental health, social media, food, children, or the future, this is a conversation you cannot afford to miss. ##gettingtherepodcast #mentalhealth #socialmediaaddiction #bodyimage #weightlossdrugs #ozempic #eatingdisordersupport Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

    We’re Losing Ourselves: Phones, Weight-Loss Drugs & The New Mental Health Epidemic | Max Pemberton
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A brand-new series from chart-topping podcast host Brogan Garrit-Smith. Big questions. Uncomfortable conversations. Different perspectives. Through unafraid, unapologetic conversations with fascinating thinkers, experts and cultural voices, Says Who? challenges the ideas shaping how we live, think, work, parent and connect. Because in a world constantly telling us what to think, how to feel and who to be, maybe it’s time to think again. Question everything, choose for yourself.

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