The Miscarriage Rebellion

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In this podcast, hosts Sam Payne, CEO and Co-Founder of Pink Elephants, and Stacey June Lewis, a seasoned counsellor, psychotherapist, and broadcaster, create a safe space for everyday Australians to share their stories of pregnancy loss. Their conversations provide a platform to candidly discuss many women’s experiences, helping to dismantle the layers of shame, blame, and stigma that frequently surround miscarriage and early pregnancy loss. The Miscarriage Rebellion strives to break down societal taboos surrounding pregnancy loss, offering empathy and validation to those who have suffered this heartbreaking experience. Join them in these raw and honest conversations, as they embark on a mission to create a more supportive and empathetic world for those affected by pregnancy loss. The pervasive silence ends here.

  1. Sep 10 ·  Video

    S3 E13 Britt and Taz: Breaking Primetime Taboos

    Professionally trained as police officers, Britt and Taz are no strangers to navigating heavy and distressing situations—yet nothing could prepare them for the devastating, invisible grief of losing their baby girl, Hazel, at 14 weeks. In this moving episode, the 2025 winners of The Block sit down with us to share their journey through miscarriage, the silent anxiety of pregnancy after loss with their daughter Marla, and why they chose to bring the taboo of early pregnancy loss into millions of Australian living rooms. Key Takeaways: The Second-Trimester Myth: Passing 12 weeks doesn't guarantee a smooth path; grief can strike at any stage. Pregnancy After Loss (PAL): A subsequent pregnancy doesn't erase past grief—it introduces a unique, anxiety-filled holding pattern that deserves validation. Honoring Their Memory: Naming their six-acre property "Hazelwood Estate" serves as a lasting tribute to their daughter.You can find Britt and Taz on instagram here. Help us Celebrate 10 Years & Donate: Help us show up for the next decade. Your donation ensures we can continue providing a circle of support for families who experience early pregnancy loss.. Donate here EARLY PREGNANCY LOSS SUPPORTIf you or someone you know has experienced miscarriage or early pregnancy loss, please know you are not alone. Connect with our services: Live Chat with Peer Support Online Communities Pregnancy Loss helpline delivered by PANDA Circle of support Follow @pinkelephantssupport on instagram. For crisis support, please call Lifeline - 13 11 14.

  2. Sep 3 ·  Video

    S3 E12 Hana Krawchuk: The Fabric of Hope

    Welcoming a "Rainbow Baby" after pregnancy loss is a deeply layered journey—one that was entirely ignored by the commercial world a decade ago. In this episode, Sam Payne sits down with Hana Krawchuk, founder of global infant sleepwear brand Love to Dream. Hana shares how a chance meeting at the Telstra Women in Business Awards sparked a seven-year partnership with Pink Elephants, shattered retail silences, and brought early pregnancy loss support directly onto mainstream store shelves. Key Takeaways: Corporate Allyship: Brands shouldn't just celebrate the happy moments; true leadership means standing by customers through their most tragic losses. Breaking Retail Silence: Partnering with major retailers like Baby Bunting, Hana put the Pink Elephants logo directly onto national store shelves, proving that bereavement support belongs in commercial spaces. Leading Before Legislation: Love to Dream implemented internal, paid "Leave for Loss" protocols for their own staff years before the Australian government passed mandated bereavement leave. Unrestricted Giving: Over seven years, donating $5 from every rainbow swaddle sold has provided Pink Elephants with vital, non-restricted operational funding.Purchase a rainbow swaddle for someone you know who has just had their rainbow baby here Help us Celebrate 10 Years & Donate: Help us show up for the next decade. Your donation ensures we can continue providing a circle of support for families who experience early pregnancy loss.. Donate here EARLY PREGNANCY LOSS SUPPORTIf you or someone you know has experienced miscarriage or early pregnancy loss, please know you are not alone. Connect with our services: Live Chat with Peer Support Online Communities Pregnancy Loss helpline delivered by PANDA Circle of support Follow @pinkelephantssupport on instagram. For crisis support, please call Lifeline - 13 11 14.

    S3 E12 Hana Krawchuk: The Fabric of Hope

  3. Aug 27 ·  Video

    S3 E11: Libby Trainor Parker: On Educating With Humour

    In this deeply moving episode, comedian and advocate Libby Parker shares her eight-year journey through eleven pregnancy losses, navigating medical misogyny, and finding hope beyond loss. Libby opens up about trusting her intuition, using humor to break down reproductive trauma, and ultimately rewriting her family narrative through foster care. Key Topics Covered Navigating Medical Misogyny: Facing clinical detachment, dismissive healthcare language, and institutional barriers during recurrent early pregnancy loss and ectopic pregnancies. The Dual Nature of Grief: Balancing genuine joy for loved ones starting families while carrying personal heartbreak. Humor as Advocacy: How Libby leverages her background as a comedian to make grief and fertility literacy accessible, human, and digestible. Reframing the Narrative: Stepping away from IVF to pursue foster care and building a family through a new path to love. Self-Care in the Trenches: Why pausing to process grief and protect your mental health is vital for survival, not a sign of giving up.Buy Libby’s book:  A Common Misconception: A How-to Guide on Surviving Miscarriage, Infertility, and Grief by Libby Parker here Help us Celebrate 10 Years & Donate: Help us show up for the next decade. Your donation ensures we can continue providing a circle of support for families who experience early pregnancy loss.. Donate here EARLY PREGNANCY LOSS SUPPORTIf you or someone you know has experienced miscarriage or early pregnancy loss, please know you are not alone. Connect with our services: Live Chat with Peer Support Online Communities Pregnancy Loss helpline delivered by PANDA Circle of support Follow @pinkelephantssupport on instagram. For crisis support, please call Lifeline - 13 11 14.

    S3 E11: Libby Trainor Parker: On Educating With Humour

  4. Aug 20 ·  Video

    S3 E10: Terry Diamond and Maggi McDonald - The Frontline of Peer Support

    In this episode of The Miscarriage Rebellion, host Sam Payne brings together the visionaries behind the clinical architecture and frontline execution of the Pink Elephants Peer Support Program: reproductive health specialist Terry Diamond and foundation peer support companion Maggi MacDonald. Together, they trace the decade-long journey of transforming a raw, grassroots desire for connection into a highly rigorous, government-funded national support framework. Terry details the rigorous, evidence-based criteria used to design the initial training program, revealing how they intentionally introduced psychoeducational frameworks like grief literacy and "disenfranchised grief" to validate early pregnancy loss. The panel breaks down the strict boundary protocols that protect both sides of the conversation—enforcing a mandatory buffer period of one year post-loss or family completion before a volunteer can train, and firmly distinguishing peer support from professional counseling. Maggi brings frontline depth to the conversation, sharing the full-circle healing that occurs when volunteers hold space for newly bereaved parents without relying on toxic platitudes. Whether you are navigating the raw trenches of a recent loss, looking to support a loved one with practical, decision-free care, or curious about the governance required to scale institutional empathy, this episode offers an invaluable look at the power of structured validation. Together, they discuss: The Architecture of Peer Support: Moving from intuitive connection to a robust, evidence-based volunteer training program. Defining Disenfranchised Grief: Why early miscarriage triggers a silent, invisible trauma that society routinely fails to enfranchise. The Governance of Self-Care: The strict vetting criteria and timeline buffers required to protect volunteers from secondary trauma. Practical, Decision-Free Allyship: Shifting from passive questions like "let me know if you need anything" to active, practical support. The Full-Circle Ripple Effect: How providing structured, early-intervention validation helps prevent the onset of complex, long-term psychological distress.Help us Celebrate 10 Years & Donate: Help us show up for the next decade. Your donation ensures we can continue providing a circle of support for families impacted by early pregnancy loss. Donate here. EARLY PREGNANCY LOSS SUPPORTIf you or someone you know has experienced miscarriage or early pregnancy loss, please know you are not alone. Connect with our services: Live Chat with Peer Support Online Communities Pregnancy Loss helpline delivered by PANDA Circle of support Follow @pinkelephantssupport on instagram. For crisis support, please call Lifeline - 13 11 14.

    S3 E10: Terry Diamond and Maggi McDonald - The Frontline of Peer Support

  5. Aug 13 ·  Video

    S3 E9: Love and Compassion: Tracy Vo on Rewriting the Language of TFMR

    In this profoundly honest and necessary episode of The Miscarriage Rebellion, Sam sits down with Nine News presenter Tracy Vo. Tracy bravely pulls back the curtain on her deeply personal journey through the heartbreaking and heavily stigmatised landscape of Termination for Medical Reasons (TFMR) with her baby boy, James, and her subsequent path to welcoming her beautiful rainbow baby, Mila. Tracy lays bare the grueling reality of the diagnostic "holding pattern"—the agonising, week-by-week limbo of waiting for scan results while holding onto desperate hope as her baby’s strong heartbeat played out on the monitor. Together, Sam and Tracy expose the secondary layer of isolation unique to TFMR, where parents are forced to navigate systemic shame, intense personal guilt, and a total lack of open community language. This conversation sheds vital light on the hidden pressures that often drive families to mask their experience under the umbrella term of "miscarriage" simply to avoid judgment. In this episode, we discuss: The Anatomy of TFMR Stigma: Unpacking why termination for medical reasons carries a secondary layer of silence, shame, and societal judgment. The Agony of the Holding Pattern: The intense emotional and physical exhaustion of holding space between diagnostic scans when a baby’s prognosis is uncertain. Deconstructing Maternal Guilt: Moving past the internalised blame, questioning everyday choices, and accepting that genetic outcomes are entirely out of a mother's control. The Hyper-Vigilance of Pregnancy After Loss: Navigating the high-anxiety medical milestones, IVF at age 41, and the constant tracking required to bring a rainbow baby earth side. Frontline Medical Linguistics: Why a radical evolution in tone, empathy, and soft communication from hospital nursing staff is vital during reproductive trauma.Help us Celebrate 10 Years & Donate: Help us show up for the next decade. Your donation ensures we can continue providing a circle of support for families impacted by early pregnancy loss. Donate here. EARLY PREGNANCY LOSS SUPPORTIf you or someone you know has experienced miscarriage or early pregnancy loss, please know you are not alone. Connect with our services: Live Chat with Peer Support Online Communities Pregnancy Loss helpline delivered by PANDA Circle of support Follow @pinkelephantssupport on instagram. For crisis support, please call Lifeline - 13 11 14.

    S3 E9: Love and Compassion: Tracy Vo on Rewriting the Language of TFMR

  6. Aug 6 ·  Video

    S3 E8: Katrina Groshinski - From the Boardroom to Systems change

    What happens when an elite corporate leader brings her strategic mind and raw personal story to the fight for reproductive rights? In this episode of The Miscarriage Rebellion, Sam sits down with Katrina Groshinski—Chairperson of Pink Elephants and Chair of top-tier law firm Minter Ellison. Katrina has spent over seven years bridging corporate enterprise with a deeply empathetic commitment to pregnancy loss advocacy, and her impact on the Australian landscape has been nothing short of historic. Katrina opens up about her personal path through IVF, recurring pregnancy loss, and the devastating reality of a natural miscarriage that took three agonising weeks to complete. She shares how she turned that private heartbreak into a platform for systemic reform—from breaking the silence across corporate boardrooms to walking the halls of Parliament House in Canberra with Sam to help secure Australia’s federal "Leave for Loss" legislative amendment. This conversation is an absolute must-listen for anyone who believes in transforming institutional spaces into sanctuaries of shared humanity. In this episode, we discuss: Shattering the Corporate Mask: How sharing her story internally at Minter Ellison prompted a profound wave of vulnerability, leading her firm to become a pioneer of the Pink Elephants Workplace Program. The Battle for Leave for Loss: A behind-the-scenes look at how Katrina used her legal and strategic expertise to support Pink Elephants presenting rigorous data to federal leaders, resulting in mandated bereavement leave under the Fair Work Act. Overcoming the Silent Freeze: Why saying something is always better than saying nothing at all, and how we can all find the courage to "just try" when supporting a grieving loved one. The Ultimate Goal—Mandatory Referrals: Katrina’s definitive vision for an automated medical system where mental bereavement is treated with the exact same clinical necessity as physical recoveryRead more on the Leave for loss campaign here. Help us Celebrate 10 Years & Donate: Help us show up for the next decade. Your donation ensures we can continue providing a circle of support for families impacted by early pregnancy loss. Donate here. EARLY PREGNANCY LOSS SUPPORTIf you or someone you know has experienced miscarriage or early pregnancy loss, please know you are not alone. Connect with our services: Live Chat with Peer Support Online Communities Pregnancy Loss helpline delivered by PANDA Circle of support Follow @pinkelephantssupport on instagram. For crisis support, please call Lifeline - 13 11 14.

    S3 E8: Katrina Groshinski - From the Boardroom to Systems change

  7. Jul 30 ·  Video

    S3 E7: Shattering the On-Air Silence with Christie Hayes

    For radio presenter Christie Hayes and her husband Justin, the road to building a family was a deeply personal path marked by long periods of trying to conceive. Ready to take the next step and begin IVF treatment, they were filled with absolute delight when they discovered they had fallen pregnant naturally. Tragically, that soaring joy was met with devastating heartbreak when they suffered a miscarriage. In the quiet weeks and months that followed, Christie made the conscious, heavy choice to stay deeply connected to her tears and her pain. Rather than rushing past the trauma, she allowed herself to fully endure the grief, recognising that her sorrow represented an enduring, loving connection to the baby they had lost—whom they have since beautifully and lovingly named Sunflower. Believing that parental grief should never be carried as a hidden burden, Christie was determined to utilise her public platform as a radio presenter to open up a raw, unfiltered conversation about miscarriage. She set out to lift the veil of isolation, wanting women and families navigating similar losses to feel intensely less alone. Carrying the Legacy Forward: Hopes for the FutureToday, Christie and Justin joyfully celebrate the birth of their baby girl, Marigold. Yet, Christie fiercely emphasises a truth known by so many in the loss community: the arrival of a "rainbow baby" never erases or replaces the memory of the baby who came before. Holding Marigold earthside doesn't diminish the love for the child they lost; instead, it binds their family's story together. Looking to the future, Christie hopes to see a world where communities seamlessly wrap their arms around grieving parents, ensuring that every loss is validated, every story is heard, and every baby is remembered. Help us Celebrate 10 Years & Donate: Help us show up for the next decade. Your donation ensures we can continue providing a circle of support for families impacted by early pregnancy loss. Donate here. EARLY PREGNANCY LOSS SUPPORTIf you or someone you know has experienced miscarriage or early pregnancy loss, please know you are not alone. Connect with our services: Live Chat with Peer Support Online Communities Pregnancy Loss helpline delivered by PANDA Circle of support Follow @pinkelephantssupport on instagram. For crisis support, please call Lifeline - 13 11 14.

    S3 E7: Shattering the On-Air Silence with Christie Hayes

  8. Jul 23 ·  Video

    S3 E6: The Architecture of Change: How Julian and Maddy Simmonds

    For driven professionals in corporate and public life, fertility challenges and early pregnancy loss are frequently treated as private battles. Grieving under the pressure of high-performance careers often leaves parents feeling forced to carry on without pausing to process their trauma. When Maddy and Julian Simmonds chose to break their silence after enduring nine rounds of IVF and three consecutive miscarriages, they didn't just share a story—they opened the doors of Federal Parliament. In this episode, Maddy and Julian join us to discuss the exhaustive spectrum of reproductive grief they experienced firsthand while balancing intense, public-facing roles. We explore how Julian utilised his platform as a Federal MP to champion Pink Elephants' "Leave for Loss" campaign, ultimately helping secure a historic amendment to the Fair Work Act that changed Australian workplace protections forever. Key Takeaways From This Episode: Grieving in High-Performance Roles: Maddy opens up about the reality of pushing through nine rounds of IVF and three miscarriages without taking the time off to properly process the grief. The "Leave for Loss" Campaign: A look behind the scenes of how Julian navigated intense political roadblocks and secured critical small business polling to prove corporate Australia was ready for structural empathy. Changing the Fair Work Act: How Maddy and Julian's combined bravery helped Pink Elephants secure the historic 2021 amendment, guaranteeing two days of paid bereavement leave for all Australians experiencing early loss. Dmantling the 12-Week Silence: The couple’s vision for a compassionate society where talking about early pregnancy loss is entirely normalised, and where workplaces automatically wrap grieving parents in support.Read more on the Leave for loss campaign here Help us Celebrate 10 Years & Donate: Help us show up for the next decade. Your donation ensures we can continue providing a circle of support for families impacted by early pregnancy loss. Donate here. EARLY PREGNANCY LOSS SUPPORTIf you or someone you know has experienced miscarriage or early pregnancy loss, please know you are not alone. Connect with our services: Live Chat with Peer Support Online Communities Pregnancy Loss helpline delivered by PANDA Circle of support Follow @pinkelephantssupport on instagram. For crisis support, please call Lifeline - 13 11 14.

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In this podcast, hosts Sam Payne, CEO and Co-Founder of Pink Elephants, and Stacey June Lewis, a seasoned counsellor, psychotherapist, and broadcaster, create a safe space for everyday Australians to share their stories of pregnancy loss. Their conversations provide a platform to candidly discuss many women’s experiences, helping to dismantle the layers of shame, blame, and stigma that frequently surround miscarriage and early pregnancy loss. The Miscarriage Rebellion strives to break down societal taboos surrounding pregnancy loss, offering empathy and validation to those who have suffered this heartbreaking experience. Join them in these raw and honest conversations, as they embark on a mission to create a more supportive and empathetic world for those affected by pregnancy loss. The pervasive silence ends here.

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  • Creator
    The Pink Elephants Support Network
  • Years Active
    2023 - 2026
  • Episodes
    40
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Show Website
    The Miscarriage Rebellion

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