Lawful Assembly Cecil Cicirello and Craig Mousin
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The Lawful Assembly podcast teams up two divergent activists, a Secular Humanist Political Activist with an immigration lawyer and an ordained clergy to dissect politics, important legal issues facing the United States, and the role of religion in our political and legal landscapes. Its challenging conversation combines a bit of humor with lamentations over injustices, combined with equal measures of pragmatic cynicism and faith-filled hope. Engage with us as we navigate through the complexities of governance and justice, examining how beliefs and law intersect in the shaping of society. Lawful Assembly is more than just a podcast; it's a community dedicated to celebrating the power of people gathering together to inspire further understanding and activism where law, ethics, and compassion meet seeking the common good. Tune in, and be part of the conversation that ignites minds and hearts alike.
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Alito's Flag Controversy, the 10 Commandments, and Courtroom Decorum.
We cover multiple stories this week here are the articles:
Samuel Alito's snide denial of his Jan. 6 flag is just as ugly as flying it in the first place
Democratic Sen. Dick Durbin Calls On Samuel Alito To Recuse From Jan. 6 Cases
Key Senate Democrat doesn't plan to probe Justice Alito over upside-down flag
Louisiana becomes 1st state to require the Ten Commandments be posted in classrooms
As conservatives put religion in schools, Satanists want in, too
Trump trial judge scolds attorney Robert Costello: From the transcript - The Washington Post
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Reflections on Civil Disobedience
Today we talk about the protests on college campuses and Craig tells a story similar to today, when he protested the Vietnam War.
Articles used:
Report on some of the agreements negotiated on college campuses in Spring 2024.
Report on all universities destroyed in Gaza during this war.
MLK, Jr. "Beyond Vietnam" speech.
NPR story on Dr. Orest Ranum's files burned
Orangeburg Massacre
Kent State Deaths
Since the recording of this podcast on civil disobedience, we have learned that the Prisoners of Conscience that have served time for crossing the line at the then Ft. Banning, Georgia was under-reported in this episode. The SOAW website states that, "Since the beginning of the movement, 300 people have collectively served over 100 years in federal prisons and county jails, with another 50 people serving probation and house-arrest sentences." https://soaw.org/soa-watch-then-and-now -
Restrictions To An Already Compromised Asylum System
This week we talk about a proposed rule from the Biden Administration that may change asylum proceedures and allow adjudicators to turn away people without proper research on their background.
Read the proposed rule: https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2024/05/13/2024-10390/application-of-certain-mandatory-bars-in-fear-screenings
Read the NIJC's breakdown: https://immigrantjustice.org/press-releases/nijc-denounces-new-biden-rule-adding-restrictions-already-compromised-asylum-system
Contact your Representative: https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative
Contact your Senator: https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htm
Craig's paper he mentions: Health Inequity and Tent Court Injustice
Next week we should have a call to action with templates for you to help submit your comment. Watch this space! -
Is the Presidency Immune from Prosecution? Pt. 2
We contiune to listen to the oral arguments from the supreme court on April 25th where they argued that the president is immune to prosecution for public acts. Craig reads some amicus curiae briefs to help us understand the arguments.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-939/307029/20240408130715170_No.%2023-939bsacRetiredFour-StarAdmiralsAndGenerals.pdf
https://www.alabamaag.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/2024.03.19-AL-Amicus-Br-ISO-Trump-FINAL.pdf
https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/2024-04/23-939%20Brief.pdf
There is a mistake in this podcast. Cecil mentions Article 3 of the consistution. It is actually article 2. -
Is the Presidency Immune from Prosecution? Pt. 1
We listen to the oral arguments from the supreme court on April 25th where they argued that the president is immune to prosecution for public acts. Craig reads some amicus curiae briefs to help us understand the arguments.
https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/23/23-939/307029/20240408130715170_No.%2023-939bsacRetiredFour-StarAdmiralsAndGenerals.pdf
https://www.alabamaag.gov/wp-content/uploads/2024/03/2024.03.19-AL-Amicus-Br-ISO-Trump-FINAL.pdf
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Mediation and Negotiation Techniques for Approaching Difficult Conversations
Here is Craig's opening paragraph framework:
Although this unscripted podcast began as a discussion of difficult conversations, it soon veered into how to engage in conversations about racism and war. We soon realized that the tools needed to engage fully may differ when conversations occur with friends, within a family, a community, a library board, a university, or a national dialogue. We acknowledge that the tragedy of slavery in this nation and the ongoing debates on how to resolve the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow have caused substantial harm to individuals and communities. We offer this podcast as an initial effort to broaden the conversation. One podcast’s ideas for one type of dialogue, however, can never address all issues. We will offer subsequent podcasts to seek multiple opinions and ideas of how to seek the common good and a more perfect union.
Resources for Ongoing Dialogue:
Rhonda MaGee, The Inner Work of Racial Justice, Healing Ourselves and Transforming our
Communities Through Mindfulness, (Tarcherperigree, N.Y., 2019), 29. She writes, “This is a
moment of racial discomfort. Such moments are common in a world shaped by racism. I
deserve kindness in the moment. And I offer kindness to others impacted by this movement as well.”
Andrea Medea, Conflict Unraveled, Fixing Problems at Work and in Families, (Pivot Point
Press, Chicago, Il, 2004), (citing Rev. Bevel at p.64).
Kerry Patterson et. al., Crucial Conversations: Tools for Talking when Stakes are High, Second Edition, (McGraw-Hill, 2002), (shared pool at p. 22).
Agents of Change: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3325282/ We mistakenly identified one of the universities in the podcast. Agents of Change tracks the responses from San Francisco State and Cornell University.
“Stumbling Upon a Signed Pulitzer Prize Winning Photo:”
http://alleghenyarchivesmedia.com/blog/2019/1/3/stumbling-upon-a-signed-pulitzer-prize-photo
Roger Fischer et al., Getting to Yes: Negotiating Agreement Without Giving In (3rd Edition)
(Penguin Publishing Group, 2011).
Douglas Stone et. al., Difficult Conversations, How to Discuss What Matters Most, (Penguin
Books, N.Y., 2000)
Customer Reviews
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