What if the most valuable leadership skill you've never been taught isn't how to manage your team, it's how to lead the person you report to? In this episode of The Leadership Sovereignty Podcast, host Ralph E. Owens II and co-host Terry Baylor sit down with Lawrence Scott, United States Military Academy at West Point graduate, former Army officer, and certified John Maxwell Team leadership coach, to break down the skill almost nobody trains you on: leading up. Lawrence puts it plainly. Every professional needs to master two things: leading down, the people who report to you, and leading up, the person you report to. Most leadership development stops at the first one. This conversation is built entirely around the second. He walks through the real mechanics of it: why the leaders above you are giants, not gods, how trust gets built long before your best idea ever needs approval, and why knowing what actually motivates your specific leader changes how quickly your ideas move. WHO THIS EPISODE IS FOR You want to influence the direction of your team or organization, not just wait for direction to come to youYou're ready to treat "leading up" as a skill you can practice, not a personality trait you either have or don'tYou want to build real trust with your leader instead of hoping your work eventually speaks for itselfYou lead people yourself and want a sharper sense of what it looks like from the other side of the tableYou're aiming for your next promotion and know that visibility with leadership matters as much as outputWHAT YOU'LL LEARN IN THIS EPISODE Why leading up is a distinct, learnable skill, not something you either have or don'tWhy the people you answer to are giants, not gods, and what that reframe changes about how you show upHow trust is built in small tasks long before you're ever handed a big ideaWhy you have to identify what motivates your specific leader instead of assumingThe difference between being injured and being incapacitated by setbacksWhy resilience requires a reason before it requires a methodHow to fall out of love with the story you keep telling yourselfABOUT LAWRENCE SCOTT Lawrence Scott is a graduate of the United States Military Academy at West Point, a former Army officer, and a certified member of the John Maxwell Team. For over a decade, he has coached executives, teams, and professional athletes on leadership, communication, and purposeful living, helping them build systems that elevate both their lives and the people they lead. Profile: https://www.leadershipsovereignty.com/guests/lawrence-scott/ 🧾 Chapters(00:00) - (00:05) - Humility and Giant Awareness (01:52) - Seeing Giants as Human (03:23) - Humility Through Self-Awareness (05:57) - Leading Up with Discernment (09:08) - Trust, Excellence, and Leading Up (14:22) - Responding to Betrayal Well (17:02) - Don’t Build a Tent There (20:25) - Bleed a While (22:06) - A Reason to Be Resilient (23:48) - Finding the Soul of Leadership **************************************************** 📺 Watch This Episode on YouTube Click here to watch the full video of this episode. **************************************************** 🌐 Visit the Leadership Sovereignty HubEverything you need to lead with clarity, confidence, and strategy — in one place. https://www.leadershipsovereignty.com Listen to or watch our full episode libraryDownload free leadership frameworks, guides, and toolsRead in-depth show notes and guest takeawaysSubmit your leadership questions or episode topic suggestions**************************************************** 📩 Get Every Episode Delivered to Your InboxJoin the Leadership Sovereignty newsletter and get new episodes, leadership insights, and exclusive resources — plus get instant access to our free AI Toolkit: the practical guide smart professionals use to think clearer, communicate better, and make smarter decisions at work. *Sign up for our newsletter* **************************************************** ⭐ Help a Leader Find This ShowIf this episode added value to your leadership journey, take 60 seconds to leave a rating or review. 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