Law and Chaos

Liz Dye

Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That's true for a traffic stop, and it's true if you want to participate in whatever's left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it's that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalists Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez break down the week's most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it's Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts at once, we've got you covered.

  1. Ep 190 — How Many Things Did Chief Justice Roberts Break Today?

    12/16/2025

    Ep 190 — How Many Things Did Chief Justice Roberts Break Today?

    What do the National Labor Relations Board, Blake Lively’s lawsuit against Justin Baldoni, and Lindsey Halligan have in common? They’re all swimming in the chaos soup cooked up by a Supreme Court that engages in motivated reasoning and jettisons precedent whenever it gets in the way. Eat up! Links:  Richman v. US https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71982634/richman-v-united-states/?order_by=desc Corporate Union Busting in Plain Sight, Economic Policy Institute, January 28, 2025 https://www.epi.org/publication/corporate-union-busting/ Amazon Services LLC v. New York State Public Employment Relations Board (New York Litigation) [docket via CourtListener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71421477/amazoncom-services-llc-v-new-york-state-public-employment-relations-board/ National Labor Relations Board v. State of California (California Litigaton) [docket via CourtListener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71657795/national-labor-relations-board-v-state-of-california/ National Trust for Historic Preservation v. National Parks Service https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72028010/national-trust-for-historic-preservation-in-the-united-states-v-national/ List of Trump Clemency Grants https://www.justice.gov/pardon/clemency-grants-president-donald-j-trump-2025-present US v. Abrego  https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70475970/united-states-v-abrego-garcia/?order_by=desc Abrego Garcia v. Noem  https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71191591/abrego-garcia-v-noem Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    1h 14m
  2. Ep 189 — Who’s Suing The Government Today? EVERYBODY

    12/12/2025

    Ep 189 — Who’s Suing The Government Today? EVERYBODY

    Today the government is getting sued by an app developer, Capitol Cops, FBI agents, Kilmar Abrego Garcia, California, Daniel Richman, Mike Flynn, and a boatload of January 6 rioters — although those last two are basically sham lawsuits seeking to raid the US Treasury with the help of President Treasonweasel. Two judges in DC seem perilously close to holding the DOJ in contempt. And for subscribers, the unbearable cognitive dissonance of Tina Peters. Links: NRSC v. FEC [SCOTUS Docket] https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/24-621.html Does v. Patel [wrongfully fired FBI agents] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72004388/does-v-patel/ Aaron v. Bondi [ICEBlock] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/72003579/aaron-v-bondi/?order_by=desc Flynn v. US https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66930673/flynn-v-united-states/?order_by=desc Trump Pardoned Them for Jan. 6. Now They Want Millions of Dollars https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-12-10/trump-pardoned-them-for-jan-6-now-they-want-millions-of-dollars Richman v. US https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71982634/richman-v-united-states/?order_by=desc Newsom v. Trump https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70496361/newsom-v-trump/?order_by=desc J.G.G. v. Trump https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69741724/jgg-v-trump/?order_by=desc Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    1h 1m
  3. Ep 187 — War Crimes, No Bills, And Tariffs

    12/05/2025

    Ep 187 — War Crimes, No Bills, And Tariffs

    The Supreme Court’s six conservatives allow Texas to steal congressional seats with a racially gerrymandered map. Over at the Defense Department, Whiskey Pete’s reign of lawlessness continues: After the Defense Department Inspector General ripped him a new one for Signalgate, Congress is looking hard at the murders in the Caribbean. Costco is suing the government over tariffs. And Justin Baldoni is back to teach us civil procedure. Links: Signalgate Inspector General Report https://www.dodig.mil/reports.html/Article/4348367/evaluation-of-the-secretary-of-defenses-reported-use-of-a-commercially-availabl/ Unlawful Orders and Killing Shipwrecked Boat Strike Survivors: An Expert Backgrounder https://www.justsecurity.org/125948/illegal-orders-shipwrecked-boat-strike-survivors/ NYT v. Department of Defense https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71992017/new-york-times-company-v-department-of-defense/ Costco v. US  https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71973233/costco-wholesale-corporation-v-united-states/?order_by=desc Richman v. US https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71982634/richman-v-united-states/?order_by=desc In re Grand Jury Subpoenas to NYAG [Sarcone disqualification] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71844954/in-re-grand-jury-subpoenas-to-the-office-of-the-new-york-state-attorney/?order_by=desc Lively v. Wayfarer https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69510553/lively-v-wayfarer-studios-llc/?order_by=desc Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    1h 7m
  4. Ep 186 — Habba Dabba D'OH!

    12/02/2025

    Ep 186 — Habba Dabba D'OH!

    The Secretary of Defense has committed war crimes, or murder, or both. And this time, maybe Congress is willing to do something about it? Meanwhile, a rent-price-fixing company has sued the state of New York arguing that it isn't fixing price, it's doing the Freeze Peach. In DC, Chief Judge James Boasberg continues to look for who was responsible for the government disobeying a court order. And finally, sparklemagic imaginary US Attorney Alina Habba gets to join her buddies on the unemployment line thanks to a decision by the Third Circuit that we break down in detail in the subscriber bonus. Happy Cyber Monday, everyone! Links: Eleventh Circuit Bounces Trump's RICO Trollsuit [lawandchaospod.com] https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/11th-circuit-bounces-trumps-rico Episode 168 w/Brian Finucane https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/ep-168-license-to-kill-feat-brian-finucane/id1727769913?i=1000728033267 Hegseth order on first Caribbean boat strike, officials say: Kill them all [Washington Post] https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2025/11/28/hegseth-kill-them-all-survivors-boat-strike/ Statement of the "Former JAGs Working Group" on Media Reports of Pentagon "No Quarter" Orders in Caribbean Boat Strikes [via Just Security] https://www.justsecurity.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/11/former-jag-working-group-no-quarter-statement.pdf Rent Going Up? One Company's Algorithm Could Be Why. https://www.propublica.org/article/yieldstar-rent-increase-realpage-rent US v. Giraud [Third Circuit, Habba Disqualification] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71195676/united-states-v-julien-giraud-jr/ RealPage v. James https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71964352/realpage-inc-v-james/ Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    56 min
  5. Ep 185 — It's A Holly Jolly Thanksgiving, But Not For Lindsey Halligan

    11/25/2025

    Ep 185 — It's A Holly Jolly Thanksgiving, But Not For Lindsey Halligan

    Take back your personal data with Incogni! Use code CHAOS at the link below and get 60% off an annual plan: https://incogni.com/chaos Big Mazal Tov to Lindsey Halligan, who can stop pretending to be a federal prosecutor now. Judge Cameron McGowan Currie ruled that Halligan was never lawfully appointed as US Attorney for the Eastern District of Virginia. And since Halligan was the only lawyer who presented the James Comey and Letitia James cases to the grand jury, those cases were dismissed. In a normal world, the Justice Department would just take the "L" and reindict. But nothing is normal in Pam Bondi's DOJ! Links: US v. Ghislaine Maxwell https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17318376/united-states-v-maxwell/?order_by=desc As Trump's Inquisitors Face Scrutiny, a Divisive Figure Could Play a New Role https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/23/us/politics/trump-florida-cannon-grand-jury.html Turning Point leader, former GOP Rep pleads guilty to attempted election fraud https://azmirror.com/briefs/turning-point-leader-former-gop-rep-pleads-guilty-to-attempted-election-fraud/ Abbott v. LULAC [SCOTUS docket] https://www.supremecourt.gov/search.aspx?filename=/docket/docketfiles/html/public/25a608.html US v. Stewart https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.285023 Judge Thornhill Disqualification Petition https://www.courts.mo.gov/fv/c/Notice.PDF?courtCode=SC&di=214030 US v. Bolton https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/17254525/united-states-v-bolton/?order_by=desc US v. Comey https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.582136 US v. James https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/71601419/united-states-v-james/?order_by=desc Biden v. Byrne https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67990012/robert-hunter-biden-v-patrick-m-byrne/?order_by=desc Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That's true for a traffic stop, and it's true if you want to participate in whatever's left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it's that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalists Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez break down the week's most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it's Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts at once, we've got you covered.

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