The Parbery Podcast

Performance Riders

Brett Parbery and Nat Foxon dissect a different 'Parberyism' each week, a concept gleaned from Brett's decades at the top of the sport of dressage.

  1. Oct 26

    Ep 39: Take the word soft out of the picture

    When a rider in the Gold Program Base Camp huddle said she was going round and round a 20-meter circle thinking "soft, soft, I want to get this horse soft," Brett Parbery stopped her with five words: take the word soft out of the picture. In this episode, Nat Foxon puts that Parberyism to Brett, and it unpacks into a full framework for what riders should be thinking about instead. Why "soft" and "light" live in the same vague category — feelings you can chase forever and never be happy with. How dressage is actually a sport built around developing collection, not softness in the hand. What "yield" and "draw" really mean as tangible, yes-or-no training checks, and how they produce the softness riders are chasing as a byproduct rather than a target. The supermarket tangent analogy that explains how chasing a feeling drags you off your plan. The controversy around connection, roundness, and behind-the-vertical — and why the sport needs to explain it better. Where Brett thinks the word "softness" could genuinely be useful: in the bending joints of the hind legs. And why balance is the hardest thing for a rider to feel, but the one that makes everything else look easy. Chapters 00:00 The Parberyism: "Take the word soft out of the picture" 00:22 Context — the Base Camp huddle where a rider was chasing "soft" on a 20-meter circle 00:48 Why "soft" and "light" live in the same vague category 02:07 Dressage is about developing collection, not softness in the hand 05:37 Softness as a reflection of the rider — and why it can be taken too far 06:09 Suppleness, response to aids, and a more tangible feeling to chase 07:18 The supermarket analogy: how chasing a feeling drags you onto a tangent 10:46 Yield and draw — what they actually mean 12:55 How yield and draw produce the softness riders are chasing 14:50 The controversy around connection, roundness, and behind the vertical 17:45 Softness redefined: the bending joints of the hind legs 19:11 Balance — the hardest thing to feel, the one that makes it look easy 20:36 Homework: yield, draw, responsiveness, and balance Takeaways "Soft" and "light" are feelings you can chase forever and never be satisfied with. They belong in the same vague category that drags riders onto tangents. Dressage is a sport built around developing collection — the whole horse transferring weight back, carrying impulsion, responding to half-halts — not softness in the hand. Yield and draw give you a tangible yes-or-no answer: did the horse relax through the neck and topline onto the bit, and are they reaching forward rather than pulling shorter? The softness riders are chasing shows up as a byproduct of yield, draw, and balance — not as a target you can aim at directly. Tangents in horse training take you nowhere. Chasing a concept like "soft" is the same as walking into the supermarket with a list and ending up in the biscuit aisle. The sport needs to explain connection and roundness better — a horse behind the vertical in a tense topline is not the same as a horse genuinely through and over the back. Where "softness" could genuinely be useful: describing the joints of the hind legs bending and carrying weight, rather than the feeling in the rider's hands. Balance is the hardest thing for a rider to feel, but when you do feel it, everything gets easier — and it's what makes top riders look effortless. Mentioned: Gold Program, Base Camp huddle, shoulder fore, shoulder-in, travers, half-pass, yield and draw, collection, impulsion, half-halts, throughness, behind the vertical, Performance Riders (performanceriders.com)

  2. Sep 1

    Ep 38: Laura Graves: What Keeps a Horse Sound in Late Teens

    Mount St John Freestyle was 17 at Aachen. Verdades was 17 in his last season. So when Linda writes in about her rising 15 year old FEI mare, who has a joint supplement and not much else, the real question is what the next five years could look like. Laura Graves joins Nat Foxon to answer it, and it turns into a full map of how she keeps horses in work: the crisis she is always trying to head off, why she wants her vet to see the horse on a bad day rather than a good one, where steroids still earn their place alongside IRAP, A2M and stem cells, the farrier as the foundation the whole thing sits on, and the one line item she would cut first if money got tight. Plus the training side, because Laura's view is that dressage done properly should be adding years to a horse's career rather than taking them off. Chapters 00:00 Linda's question: what do you actually do for the older equine athlete? 01:24 Freestyle at 17 in Aachen, and whether that is an outlier or available to the rest of us 02:11 "What we do with our sport, when it's done well, should prolong a horse's fitness and soundness" 02:52 Verdades: born 2002, retired 2020, and the lunge line incident that really ended it 04:05 Healthy stock, conformation, and the miles you put on a young horse 05:13 Laura's number one management goal: avoid a crisis 06:29 Why joint injections feel aggressive, and the car tyre analogy that reframes them 06:51 Soft tissue is what you are really trying to avoid 08:07 Building the team: your vet early, and a second set of eyes 09:07 The hardest hire on the whole team is the farrier 09:49 The vet check Laura wants, on the horse's worst day 10:47 Least aggressive first, and why changing too much too soon backfires on a 12 year old 11:52 Steroids: glorious, fast, and genuinely risky 12:19 IRAP, Arthrimed, A2M, stem cells and what the science can do now 13:45 Supplements: what Laura feeds, and how much weight she puts on it 15:05 Balance and symmetry as longevity tools, not just marks 16:46 What Laura most wants Linda to hear Takeaways The goal is not treating lameness, it is never getting there. Laura's whole system is built around avoiding the crisis. A horse that always favours one leg wears unevenly, the same way a car out of alignment chews its tyres. Uneven loading is what turns into a strained tendon. Work the horse hard before the vet comes. Laura does not want the vet meeting the horse on its best day. The farrier is the hardest hire and the most load-bearing one. Most soundness starts in the feet. Regenerative options cost more and work slower than steroids, and carry far less risk. Balance and symmetry matter for longevity whether you are chasing 70 percent or hacking for fun. Mentioned: Mount St John Freestyle, Verdades, Aachen, Platinum Performance, Adequan, Legend, IRAP, Arthrimed, A2M, stem cell therapy

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Brett Parbery and Nat Foxon dissect a different 'Parberyism' each week, a concept gleaned from Brett's decades at the top of the sport of dressage.

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