Hiding In Plain Sight Podcast

Eoin Bastable

The people, places, and ideas we overlook & what we can learn from them eoinbastable.substack.com

  1. 12/10/2025

    43. The myth of the digital natives

    An interview with Brian Baker on preparing students for the AI age Show Description: Episode 43 of “Hiding in Plain Sight” features an in-depth interview with Brian Baker, an educator and digital literacy expert. The episode explores the challenges and opportunities of teaching digital, media, and AI literacy in schools. The conversation covers the importance of explicit instruction, the risks of assuming students are “digital natives,” the impact of AI on education, and practical strategies for educators and parents. Drawing inspiration from Star Trek, Brian shares analogies, research, and actionable advice for building a more informed, empathetic, and future-ready generation. Show Highlights with Timestamps: * [0:05] Digital Literacy ≠ Tech Usage Brian debunks the myth that using technology means being literate in it. * [2:53] Star Trek’s Vision for Education Brian explains how Star Trek’s humanistic ideals inspire his approach to digital literacy. * [4:12] Driving a Car Analogy Teaching digital literacy is compared to teaching someone to drive—active, guided practice is essential. * [9:06] Media Literacy Gaps in Schools. Only 39% of teens receive media literacy education, despite 94% believing they need it. * [10:48] The Consequences of Low AI Literacy: Users with less AI literacy often use AI more, risking blind trust in biased or inaccurate outputs. * [12:17] Three Core Themes for AI in Schools Brian outlines his approach: balancing benefits/risks, aligning with district values, and involving the whole community. * [16:31] Teaching Metacognition Strategies for helping students reflect on how media and AI affect their thoughts and emotions. * [18:43] Inoculation Theory: Exposing students to misinformation in a controlled way helps them build resistance, like a vaccine. * [21:20] Parochial Empathy and Echo ChambersHow misinformation can foster division and why media literacy is key to countering it. * [23:52] Preparing Students for the Society of Tomorrow Schools should focus on equipping students to shape the future, not just participate in today’s economy. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit eoinbastable.substack.com

    32 min
  2. 39. The Marketplace

    09/15/2025

    39. The Marketplace

    Over the weekend, our family decided to replace our dining room table. Like most people these days, I turned to an online marketplace to sell our old table. I used Facebook Marketplace and priced the table low to attract interest. Lacking inspiration, I labelled it, “Dining room table with 2 leaves.” Within 30 minutes, I started to get messages from potential buyers seeking information on its dimensions and condition. I heard from Natalie, Scott, Lisa, Mia, and Zelija. I also got a thumbs up from Jill (my first marketplace follower), but no message. The table was suddenly in high demand, and I had to decide who to sell it to. Natalie, I discovered from her online profile, was from Redondo Beach, California. Should I sell the table to someone outside of Oregon? I own a shirt that says, “Oregon is above California,” which has gotten nice compliments and wry looks from residents of the state. Natalie’s profile picture looks joyful. I can imagine our table feeling happy in her home. It may even end up near a beach if she decides to move back to her hometown. On the other hand, Scott went to Brentwood High School (class of 2005) and seems to be highly social with over 1,100 friends. Instead of a photo, Scott’s profile features a quote: “You make mistakes, mistakes don’t make you.” Maybe he would accept all of the dings and coffee stains on our table with grace and ease? It made me happy to think of Scott adding a leaf or two to the table to share a tasty meal with a few of his thousand friends and perhaps relive memories from his days at Bentwood High. Lisa had half as many friends as Scott (only 559), but she posted a cute childhood picture of herself and recently updated her cover photo with a set of 4 fresh peaches in a box. I could see these peaches resting on our old table in Lisa’s dining room. Lisa seemed to have an artistic flair. As I scrolled down, I found a photo of a single flower silhouetted in a vase by a window and another of a beautiful sunset that attracted 5 hearts and a thumbs up. Then, I wondered, with all the changes Lisa made to her profile page, would our table get “updated” 3 months from now? Mia peppered me with questions: Can you tell me what type of wood it is, how heavy, and also what the measurements are without the leaves? Mia revealed little about herself. There was just one photo of a cactus in a small pot. She had not posted anything and only had 44 friends. And yet, she was asking me for more information than any of the other potential buyers. Mia made me think… How could I weigh our table? Could I place it on a weighing scale? It was heavy to me, but perhaps not to Mia? I think the table was made from oak, but I really have no idea what type of tree it came from. I imagined Mia arriving at our house with a tape measure, only to be disappointed if the table's dimensions didn't match her expectations. Maybe she’s a bit like the cactus, a bit prickly? I’ll proceed with caution. Zelija hit the mark with her message, tacked on to the auto-respond stem on the Facebook Marketplace app. Hi, is this available? I can pick up thus morning. I overlooked the typo and was delighted she had no questions and a concrete plan to pick up our table. Zelija was a pro. Unlike the others, Zelija had her own marketplace page to corral amateurs like me. Here, she displayed a passion for restoring old wooden tables and chairs — her listings included photos of a vintage dining room table, farmhouse table, pub table, and a TV tray dinner table (set of 2). Zelija only offered details on the TV dinner table’s dimensions, not its weight or wood type (a savvy move). Also, she was selling two tables for $30 to enjoy a meal with a loved one (a generous & well-priced package deal). Zelija's profile page included a sunlit family portrait of her husband and two small children, all beaming in unison. Unlike Scott, Zelija had attended a school abroad called Osonova Skola Stjepan Supanc Vukovar 53. Google revealed to me that Vukovar is a city in Croatia, located in eastern Slavonia. I also learned that Vukovar is the largest Croatian river port on the Danube. Zelija is from Croatia! I have no personal ties to Croatia, but Zelija's no-nonsense, straightforward approach, along with her adorable family, won me over in this virtual flea market. The following day, Zelija arrived at our house in her large, white Honda Pilot. I had disassembled our old table with two leaves and had it ready for her to add it to her growing table collection. I warned her, we have a friendly but excitable dog. Text when you arrive. Louie began shrieking and wagging his large tail as Zelija’s car pulled up to our home. I tried to squeeze by him to slip out the front door, but Louie knew this move well and barreled ahead of me toward Zelija. Oh God, I braced for the worst. Instead of backing away, Zelija leaned into our 85-pound golden doodle and shot a grin at me, the same one from her profile image. He’s smelling our big dog on me, Zelija chuckled as she groomed Louie’s side. Louie squealed with delight. I sighed in relief and then tried to greet Zelija, who was now fully reinforcing Louie’s erratic behaviors. So, this is the base, and these screws go here…I was eager to pass along a few tips to the next table’s owner. Zelija politely interrupted me. My husband will put it together when I get it home. Can you please help me load it in the car? Zelija shared she had recently left a stressful but high-paying job for a big fish company (I travelled to almost every state, but I didn’t love it). She is now substitute teaching a few days a week in local schools (“I love middle schoolers, they tell you exactly what they are thinking”) and refurbishes used furniture on the side (My mum in Croatia would be horrified if she knew what I was doing with all my degrees). Zelija told me she loves meeting people on all sides of the political and cultural spectrum. I'm making just enough money to cover our kids’ sports fees, and it helps that my husband works full time…I’ve spent too much time in my virtual bubble…this work reminds me how much I share in common with strangers. Zelija inquired about our family. I shared the ages of our kids and where they attend school in the city. We found common ground, even though I have never floated down the Danube or heard of Vukovar. We discussed the origins of our names, which are both hard to pronounce. She even complimented me as I caught myself repeating her name out loud on our front lawn in an effort to commit it to memory. Very good, she said. Even though I realize Zelija is probably not going to keep my table, it does sound like it will get a Croatian makeover and end up beside the TV tray dinner set on her marketplace page. Hopefully, she earns some decent money to pay for her children’s soccer registrations or at least breaks even. Ultimately, in Zelija, I found a buyer who was right for me (perhaps not for the table). I was inspired by her zeal to refurbish her life through her table trading and part-time teaching gigs. I just love the hustle, she glowed. Her newfound energy was infectious. I have faint memories of visiting flea markets growing up, and today I enjoy making trips to local farmers’ markets. The goods and services I find in these spaces are infused with personal stories and human interactions. They keep me grounded. It was nice to meet Zelija through the marketplace and to make a brief, unexpected, and genuine connection. Louie was sad to see her go. Thanks for reading this post. I love to hear from readers of HIPS. Please drop a comment below (if you have the Substack app) or reach out to me at eoinbastable@gmail.com. I added an AI-generated voice-over to this post. Let me know what you think? Until next time, be kind to yourself and others. Stay curious. P.S. I am not selling or buying any more tables. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit eoinbastable.substack.com

    8 min
  3. 09/04/2025

    38. Teachers, turnover & taxes

    Our 3 kids returned to their schools this week, along with 55 million students and more than 3.8 million teachers. As many parents will attest, this is a celebratory moment, not to be taken for granted after the COVID-19 closures. So, as educators set up their classrooms and schedules for the next 9 months, I wanted to take a pulse of what’s happening inside and outside schools. Not to rain on anyone’s first week back to school, but the numbers are sobering. Over 75% of US states are experiencing teacher shortages. 45% of public schools have at least one unfilled teaching position (down slightly from 53% a year ago). Roles in special education, science, and foreign languages remain some of the hardest to staff. To get more of the story behind these numbers, I reached out to Dr. Emily Penner, a professor at UC Irvine, who has a unique approach to understanding the economic forces influencing almost 4 million educators serving students across the US. Dr. Penner and her colleagues have figured out how to match anonymized data from educators’ IRS tax filings with school personnel records. The result? A bridge linking educators’ checkbooks to classrooms — tax records allow us to see where educators are going when they leave a school for another job. Dr. Penner’s research on teacher turnover instantly resonated with me as a parent and educator. My oldest daughter, 15, while in elementary school, had 2 teachers leave the school, and 1 left the field of education entirely. Our son, 13, has had multiple teachers come and go during his elementary school journey through Special Education. I’ve moved between roles in several schools, districts, and states, in part influenced by salary, budget cuts, and school/district work conditions. It’s not hard to imagine the impact the churn is having on students and families when as many as 3 in 10 educators shift into new roles in other schools, districts, or leave the profession altogether. Educators lose trusted or experienced colleagues or principals each year (note: a percentage of these educators do retire). Research shows students, staff, and schools accrue benefits when educators stay in their schools for at least 3-5 years. * Improved student achievement, especially in underserved communities. * Stronger school culture and collegiality, which support both staff morale and retention. * Reduced costs for districts, which otherwise must continually recruit and train new teachers. * Greater equity, as students of color and English learners benefit from consistent relationships with teachers who understand their cultural and linguistic backgrounds. For these reasons, I was eager to speak with Dr. Penner, who has spent much of her career asking questions about the economic and social forces shaping one of the country’s most critical human resources. Here are a few examples of her work: Cost of living $$$ In cities like Austin and San Francisco, the high cost of housing has skyrocketed over the last two decades. In 2019, Penner and colleagues examined economic anxiety among a sample of teachers in the San Francisco Unified School District. This study found that teachers experiencing economic stress (e.g., younger teachers) tended to have more negative attitudes about their jobs and worse attendance. These teachers were also 50% more likely to leave their district within two years. Four-day work week The use of four-day school weeks in the United States has expanded rapidly over the past two decades to save costs and reduce staffing shortages in schools. Penner and her team found that adopting a four-day work week (across a sample of Oregon schools) increased turnover by 3 percentage points among teachers in the initial year, with turnover dropping in the short term and then increasing again in the longer term. Data collected during this study suggested increases in teacher turnover may have been mediated by salaries that fell further behind five-day schools after policy adoption. Compensation Penner has found a nuanced relationship between educator compensation, credentials, and teacher retention. * A 10% increase in base salary was associated with a 1.5 percentage point decrease in turnover. * Salary bumps show bigger effects on early-career teachers than mid-career educators. * Special education teachers were found to be more responsive to salary increases. Roots in education At 21, Dr. Penner found herself in a blended classroom of 1st-2nd graders in a school in East Oakland, California. She also worked as a reading intervention specialist and English Language Development coordinator in Vista, CA. A few years at her elementary school in East Oakland, a federal law, No Child Left Behind Act (2001), required many schools to close their doors based on reporting lower standardized test scores. Determined to reopen the school, Penner and a dedicated group of teachers, parents, and students put together a plan. A core team drew on pedagogical best practices to retool how the school approached student assessment, curriculum development, instruction, and teacher professional development. Within a few years of reopening, the school became one of Oakland’s most improved. The lessons from this experience have continued to shape Penner’s research, which she described as living at the “intersection of education policy, sociology of education, and economics of education.” Reframing educator turnover Today, Dr. Penner helps school districts and states across the US to navigate educator attrition by helping them see patterns and potential solutions to calm the churn. Part of this work has included helping schools understand that turnover is a multifaceted phenomenon. As the data below shows, “turnover” doesn’t mean all teachers are leaving the profession (some are); rather, teachers are hopping between districts and states in search of better compensation, improved working conditions, or job security. This is a solvable issue, according to Penner. Turnover by educator role For example, here are the turnover patterns by educator role for Oregon (2022). Penner’s team looked at common roles in schools and used tax data (e.g., W2s) to understand what percentage of these educators switched schools, districts, or left Oregon’s educator workforce. Teachers (32,634) * 🔁 Turnover: 21.3% * 🏫 Switched Schools: 6% * 🌐 Switched Districts: 4.8% * 🚪 Left Oregon public schools: 10.4% Administrators (2,564) * 🔁 Turnover: 26.1% * 🏫 Switched Schools: 9.8% * 🌐 Switched Districts: 7.4% * 🚪 Left Oregon public schools: 9.0% Paraprofessionals (14,676) * 🔁 Turnover: 30.7% * 🏫 Switched Schools: 8.1% * 🌐 Switched Districts: 2.9% * 🚪 Left OR public schools: 19.6% Non-licensed staff (24,556: office staff, specialists, coaches) * 🔁 Turnover: 26% * 🏫 Switched Schools: 6.2% * 🌐 Switched Districts: 1.9% * 🚪 Left OR public schools: 17.9% Turnover by years of experience To save you from squinting (at the graph below), the taller bars (on the left side) show that novice educators (5 years or less) are more likely to experience turnover compared to more veteran educators on the right side of the graph. The grey bars are “total turnover %” similar to above (Note: veteran educators are also more likely to retire, which accounts for higher turnover rates). Here’s what educator turnover patterns look like by years of experience (Oregon educators — average turnover rates: 2007-2022). Double jeopardy In states like Oregon, the good news is that the demographic picture is trending toward a more diverse workforce entering K-12 schools, more reflective of the student demographics. From 2012 to 2022, Oregon more than doubled the number of novice educators of color from 9.4% to 21.1%. That’s an over 50% increase in 10 years. However, Oregon also experiences higher turnover for less experienced educators, who are also the state’s most diverse educator group. These trends pose a challenge for diversifying classrooms, which remain predominantly staffed by white females. The same patterns show up in other states experiencing similar trends, such as Washington, Maryland, and Massachusetts. Penner’s data also shows that churn is experienced more acutely by paraeducators and classified staff, who also represent a more diverse part of the educator workforce compared to licensed educators. Paraeducators play an important role in helping students who receive special education services. In response, many states are investing in mentoring programs, building more affordable pathways into the profession, or bumping salary scales to support and retain novice educators. So, what happens to educators who leave the profession? States and districts are increasingly aware of the need to keep pace with the cost of living in their regions (e.g., housing, car, and grocery expenses) as part of retaining educators in their regions, especially in rural towns. But, for those leaving the field of education seeking larger paychecks or other careers, they may be surprised (or not) by what Penner’s team is finding: * It takes time to catch up. The majority of “leavers” remain in education-related roles, and mean earnings are slightly below pre-exit earnings even 8 years later. * Outcomes are mixed. Roughly 20% of leavers are unemployed, and the bottom quartile of employed leavers earn less than $20,000 annually. At the same time, earnings among the top quartile of employed leavers are higher than those of nearly all stayers, sometimes exceeding $100,000. Understanding the economics of education This time of year, educators are flooded with new curricula, staff trainings, and parent emails, most intended to get them off to a good start. Hopefully, educators are also feeling rejuvenated from well-deserved time off over the summer. Yet, as students get settled into their classrooms, educators may be feeling less settled abou

    12 min
  4. 10/13/2023

    26. Fostering collaboration, exploring hard questions about equity in schools & reflecting on healthy sacrifice

    Dr. Rhonda Nese “Let’s cut to the chase” is how Dr. Rhonda Nese approaches pressing problems facing schools today. Dr. Nese has spent decades supporting classrooms, schools, and districts as a school psychologist and educational researcher improving student-teacher relationships, enhancing equity in school discipline practice, and adapting school-wide behavioral supports to be more culturally responsive. I first met Dr. Nese 10 years ago at the University of Oregon in Eugene, Oregon where she had recently completed a Ph.D. in School Psychology. Today, Dr. Nese and her husband Dr. Joseph Nese co-lead the Nese Lab, a research collaborative based at the University of Oregon. The Nese Lab focuses on transforming educational practices, systems, and policies to meet the needs of all community members. Dr. Nese is a leading educational researcher whose work has garnered numerous accolades and millions of federal dollars in research funding. She was the recipient of the 2022 Presidential Equity Award from the NorthWest PBIS Network and the 2022 Outstanding Early Career Award from the University of Oregon, the UO’s highest award for early career faculty recognizing her contributions to scholarship and research. Episode summary: In this episode of HIPS, Dr. Nese shares how she thinks about collaboration and partnership in her academic role and with school partners & students. She describes how she has worked to overcome imposter syndrome and what she has learned about making schools and workplaces more inclusive spaces. Dr. Nese also relates lessons learned as an educational researcher, including recent efforts to ban (in some states) interventions she has developed for use in K-12 schools. Throughout the interview, Dr. Nese presents authentic and powerful insights about her lived experiences as a researcher, educator, and parent. I hope you enjoy this wide-ranging interview! Resources & links * Dr. Rhonda Nese (bio) * Nese Labs * Dr. Nese (published work) Other interviews with Dr. Nese: * Podcast: How to Have Kids Love Learning (2023) * Podcast: The Educator’s Blueprint (episode 9, 2021) * Panel discussion: City Club of Eugene (2021) Thanks for reading Hiding In Plain Sight! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit eoinbastable.substack.com

    38 min
  5. 09/15/2023

    24. The Good Stuff

    Dear HIPSters: I’m very glad to be back after a wonderful break and time with my family. Welcome to new subscribers. Your support means a lot to me. As always, I appreciate hearing readers’ thoughts, reflections, or ideas. As a new school year launches here in Portland, OR and as we hit the final stretch of summer, I wanted to highlight a few good things. I hope to make this a regular practice and a part of HIPS from time to time. Bill McKibben, a leading environmentalist, documents the climate crisis in a substack called The Crucial Years. In a recent post, McKibben reflected on where to live as our climate shifts our present and future reality. A message he drove home is that no matter where we live it will be critical to focus on nurturing social trust. Here’s an excerpt: We’ve come through 75 years where having neighbors was essentially optional: if you had a credit card, you could get everything you needed to survive dropped off at your front door. But the next 75 years aren’t going to be like that; we’re going to need to return to the basic human experience of relying on the people around you… Inspired by McKibben’s words, here are 3 ideas I came across recently that I believe are helping to nurture social trust in different but related ways. The Bike Bus. This week as I dropped our son at his elementary school, there was hardly anyone around. The playground was empty just 15 minutes before the starting bell. Then, this happened (which I caught on my camera). I love the voice of one student who yells, "I did it” at the beginning of the video. There are now 10 bike bus or walking school bus programs across Portland. The idea was borrowed from Barcelona’s Bici Bus. The basic idea of a bike bus is to gather students & parents together on a regular timetable to encourage bike commuting and increase safety (more visible). The bike bus has grown significantly in the past few years and has garnered national media attention in Portland. Here is a segment on NBC Nightly News. It continues to build a community around cycling or walking to school — some of the rides now have upwards of 200 students involved or 1/3 of the school arriving on bikes or by foot. When Representative Hoa Nguyen saw how a walking school bus increased attendance (by 30%), she decided to join forces with other legislators and pass (HB 3014) the “Bike Bus Bill”. The bill allows school districts to have more flexibility in how they spend their transportation dollars to allocate money for crossing guards and/or coordinators to lead walks or bike buses. The Bike Bus Bill was signed into law by Oregon’s governor on July 31, 2023. Books to Prisoners. Since 1973, Books to Prisoners has been mailing tens of thousands of free books to prisoners. This all-volunteer-run collective receives approximately 1,000 requests for books each month. As prison libraries tend to be very limited and access to them is often very restricted this organization is filling a clear need. My daughter and I had the opportunity to visit Portland’s branch (which just became an incorporated non-profit). We opened several letters sent from prisoners across the U.S. The letters included hand-written requests for different books or genres. After we opened and read each letter, Eve & I browsed through a small, but diverse library to find books that best matched each prisoner’s request. Next, we wrapped and prepped the books for shipment. We got letters requesting books on Dungeons and Dragons, American survivalist fiction, and romance novels. What struck me was how grateful the prisoners were for having their requests filled and how many envelopes the organization receives each week from the approximately 2 million people incarcerated in the U.S. today. Here’s a short video on Books to Prisoners. An Irish Goodbye. On a plane trip this summer from New York to Dublin, Ireland, my wife and I were inspired by An Irish Goodbye (2012), an Oscar-nominated short about two estranged brothers with very Irish names (Turlough & Lorcan) who are forced to reunite to mourn the passing of their mother. The film is a poignant and joyful exploration of family, connection, and our responsibility to one another. It is available on Hulu, Apple TV, and Amazon Prime. Here’s the trailer. These are 3 good things that I came across. If you have good stuff you want to share that is nurturing social trust or building community in your neck of the woods, I’d love to hear from you. Please consider sharing in the box below. Thanks for reading and see you again in two weeks. Keep well & stay curious. Eoin Thanks for reading Hiding In Plain Sight! Subscribe for free to receive new posts and support my work. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit eoinbastable.substack.com

    6 min

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