What if creativity isn't something we get to do after everything else is done—but something that actually helps us get through life? In this episode of Breaking Patterns, host Skye Nicholson sits down with poet Westley Penland to explore how poetry can become a powerful outlet for processing trauma, navigating identity, supporting mental health, and finding connection. Wes is a transgender man, spoken-word poet, and author of Confirmation of Life. His deeply personal work explores growing up queer, surviving conversion therapy, navigating transition, mental health struggles, and the complicated, beautiful process of becoming yourself. Together, Skye and Wes explore what happens when we give difficult experiences a creative outlet, and what changes when those experiences are shared and witnessed by others. They discuss poetry as a companion to therapy, the vulnerability of sharing personal work, the relationship between creativity and emotional resilience, and why art doesn't have to fix anything to be meaningful. Their conversation also takes a wonderfully unexpected turn toward nature, wonder, play, and Wes's delightfully unconventional vegetable-butt paintings. Because creative wellbeing isn't only about processing pain. It's also about making room for joy. Through the lens of Skye's emerging Creative Health Framework, this conversation asks an important question: What if creative expression isn't a luxury or an extracurricular activity, but an essential part of living well? In this episode: How poetry helped Wes process childhood trauma and reconnect with his younger self The connection between creative expression, emotional release, and feeling less alone Why being witnessed through art can create powerful human connection The role of identity, shame, and self-acceptance in Wes's poetry Why nature, wonder, and play belong in conversations about mental health How to make room for creativity in an already busy life Chapters 00:00 – Creativity in the margins of everyday life (opening preview) 01:28 – Meet Westley Penland: Poetry and Confirmation of Life 02:41 – Poetry as a safe space for expression and processing trauma 06:00 – The power of sharing poetry and being witnessed 08:15 – Wes reads "Unfazed" 11:00 – Conversion therapy, identity, and learning to trust yourself 15:38 – Mental health, shame, and finding connection through poetry 18:01 – Why creativity isn't a luxury 20:46 – Nature, wonder, and the creative process 23:08 – Wes reads "As You Wish" 26:53 – Poetry doesn't have to fix everything 28:00 – Wes's upcoming creative projects 32:00 – Finding your way back to creativity 34:24 – Giving yourself permission to play 36:00 – Vegetable-butt art, joy, and creative community 38:18 – Closing reflections Connect with Wes Instagram: @simply_the_wes Listen to Confirmation of Life: https://poetrybywes.bandcamp.com/album/confirmation-of-life Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/westley.penland Connect with Skye Learn more about creative health, stress resilience, workshops, and retreats at https://wellbeingworkshop.co Breaking Patterns explores the beliefs, behaviors, and expectations that keep us stuck—and the unexpected ways we can create more meaningful, connected, and joyful lives. Content note: This episode includes personal discussion of conversion therapy, childhood trauma, self-harm, and suicidal ideation.