Lights On with Carl Lentz

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Lights On with Carl Lentz is exactly what this show is. Carl Lentz is turning on the lights in his own life, & giving people space to do the same. We will lead with vulnerability, & have open conversations to bring light to the inner darkness in our lives. Turn on the lights with us!

  1. 3D AGO

    Living a Lie for 23 Years: How a Pastor Lost His Wife, Kids, and Church in One Day

    In this brutally honest episode of Lights On, Carl Lentz sits down with Blaine Bartell for round two of a conversation that sparked hundreds of messages from pastors in secret crisis. Blaine, a former megachurch pastor who led one of America's largest youth ministries, reveals the unspoken rule destroying leaders from the inside: "Thou shalt not get caught." For the first time, he shares the shocking moment when a well-known pastor looked him in the eye after his exposure and said, "You know what the difference is between you and me? You got caught." They dive deep into a buried Focus on the Family study revealing 68% of pastors struggle with porn, why that number is likely closer to 85% today, and why the church has created a system that disciplines men into secrecy rather than healing. From the identity shift that finally broke his 23-year addiction to why porn is never the real problem, this conversation exposes the epidemic nobody in church will talk about. Whether you're a pastor hiding in plain sight, a man who can't break free no matter how hard you try, or someone who loves a person trapped in secret shame, this episode offers a roadmap to the freedom of having nothing left to hide. Follow Carl at: https://www.instagram.com/carllentz/ Follow Blaine at: https://blainebartell.com/ Supported by God Behind Bars - https://godbehindbars.com Supported by Plana - https://plana.org/ CHAPTERS: 00:00 - INTRO: "Thou Shalt Not Get Caught" 01:08 - Blaine's Story: 23 Years of Secret Addiction Behind Ministry Success 05:10 - Good Friday 2010: The Day Everything Was Exposed 09:50 - "You Got Caught. I Didn't." — What a Megachurch Pastor Told Him 14:52 - The Buried Study: Focus on the Family Found 68% of Pastors Struggle 20:26 - "When We Punish Honesty, We Disciple Secrecy" 23:45 - God Behind Bars Partnership 25:33 - How Jesus Restored Peter: Breakfast, Relationship, Mission 32:54 - Stop Raking Leaves: Why Porn Isn't the Real Problem 36:55 - "I Am a Beloved Son" — The 6 Words That Changed Everything 38:17 - Plana Partnership 41:10 - The New Pornography: DMs, Text Threads, and What Pastors Hide 47:07 - The Greatest Gift: Going to Sleep Without Secrets 56:16 - 4 Steps to Freedom and Sacred Rituals See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    1h 6m
  2. 12/24/2025

    What Daughters Never Tell Their Dads | With My Daughter Ava

    Want to submit questions? Email us at hello@carlandlaura.com In this raw episode of Lights On, Carl Lentz sits down with his 21-year-old daughter Ava for the conversation most dads are too afraid to have. What does my daughter actually need from me? The answer will challenge everything you think you know about strength, protection, and what it actually takes to lead your daughter well. Drawing from their own journey of rebuilding after public failure, Carl and Ava expose an uncomfortable truth. Your daughter's inner world is far deeper than you realize. And two things can be true at once. A dad can be trying his best AND his daughter can be starving for real connection. Ava shares what she needed most as a little girl but never said, including the moments Carl's "strength" actually created fear instead of safety. Carl delivers the perspective most dads never hear. What it is actually like to let your daughter see you broken, and why that vulnerability became the foundation of their relationship today. From the power of the words that follow "you are" to why your best parenting will feel like friction in the moment, to the question every dad should ask his daughter, this episode delivers practical truths for fathers who want to stop performing and start connecting. This episode will challenge any dad who believes he needs to have it all figured out. Follow Carl at https://www.instagram.com/carllentz/  Follow Ava at https://www.instagram.com/avaangellentz/ Supported by Plana https://plana.org/ Supported by God Behind Bars https://godbehindbars.com CHAPTERS  00:00 The Conversation Most Dads Avoid 02:40 This Is Not Pressure It Is Presence  05:18 What Ava Needed Most As A Little Girl  10:07 Why Vulnerability Made Them Closer  14:37 God Behind Bars Partnership  16:02 The Worst Advice Dads Receive  19:26 Your Words Become Her Inner Voice  22:00 The Dad Mistake That Creates Fear Not Safety  25:00 When Trust Is Crushed Daughters Need Honesty  29:50 Confrontation Is Not The Enemy Of Connection  31:01 Truth 1 Her Inner World Is Deeper Than You Know  34:24 Plana Partnership  36:22 Truth 2 Your Best Parenting Feels Like Friction  38:59 Truth 3 Humanity Strengthens Leadership  43:26 Truth 4 The Power Of You Are  45:07 Truth 5 Legacy Should Always Be Growing  46:59 What Daughters Wish Their Dads Would Ask  49:49 Final Words For Dads Ready To Lead Differently  54:06 Whatever You Avoid Controls You See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    57 min
  3. 12/17/2025

    Why I Had S3x With My Cheating Husband

    Want to submit questions? Email us at hello@carlandlaura.com --- In this raw episode of Lights On, Carl and Laura Lentz tackle the conversation most couples recovering from betrayal are too afraid to have. What do we do about sex? The answer will challenge everything you think you know about protection, connection, and what it actually takes to rebuild. Drawing from five years of rebuilding their own marriage, Carl and Laura expose an uncomfortable truth. Intimacy is not a reward system. It is a connection system. And two things can be true at once. A betrayed wife can be protecting herself AND the relationship can be starving for connection. Laura shares why she chose to pursue intimacy with Carl despite the trauma, including the moment she shook so badly he had to leave the room. Carl delivers the perspective most men never hear. What it is actually like to rebuild your sexuality without any hope of intimacy at home, and why white-knuckling is not recovery. From the Gottman framework of Atone, Attune, Attach, to the 5-level ladder for rebuilding physical connection, to why compliance is not intimacy and consent is, this episode delivers practical frameworks for couples who want to stop avoiding the hardest conversation in recovery. This episode will challenge any couple who believes removing intimacy has no cost. --- Follow Carl at https://www.instagram.com/carllentz/ Follow Laura at https://www.instagram.com/lauralentz/ --- Supported by Plana https://plana.org/ Supported by God Behind Bars https://godbehindbars.com --- CHAPTERS 00:00 The Conversation Betrayed Couples Avoid 02:40 This Is Not Pressure It Is Options 05:18 What Recovery Actually Looks Like For The Man 10:07 Why Laura Chose Intimacy Despite The Trauma 14:37 God Behind Bars Partnership 16:02 The Worst Christian Advice Women Receive 19:26 The Science Of Bonding Stress And Well-Being 22:00 The Best Way To Stop Fighting 25:00 When Trust Is Crushed Couples Need Reconnection 29:50 Healthy Sex Is Not A Replacement For Recovery 31:01 The Gottman Framework Atone Attune Attach 34:24 Plana Partnership 36:22 Attunement Tuning The Guitar Before You Play 38:59 Non-Sexual Affection And The 5 Levels 43:26 Relearning Touch With No Goal And No Pressure 45:07 Erotic Connection Only When Both Can Say Yes 46:59 Weapon Reward Or Reconnection Which Are You Using 49:49 Final Reminders For Couples Rebuilding 54:06 Whatever You Avoid Controls You See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    56 min
  4. 12/10/2025

    Why "Keeping The Peace" Actually Destroys Your Marriage

    Want to submit questions? Email us at hello@carlandlaura.com In this raw episode of Lights On, Carl and Laura Lentz tackle the question every couple secretly asks during the holidays: "Is this hard because we're healing—or hard because something is broken?" The answer will challenge everything you think you know about keeping the peace in your marriage. Drawing from five years of rebuilding their own marriage, Carl and Laura expose an uncomfortable truth: the betrayed who obsesses and the betrayer who avoids are both destroying the peace faster than the affair ever could. Laura shares why she had to stop being the "peace keeper" in her marriage and become a "clarity seeker"—even when it was messy. Carl delivers the challenge most men avoid: If you want your wife to trust you again, stop waiting for her to calm down before you get honest. An honest man tells on himself. From the difference between "clearing things up" and "letting things go," to why resentment accumulation destroys more marriages than the original betrayal, to their personal story of surviving Carl's rehab during Christmas with three kids—this episode delivers practical frameworks you can use today. This episode will challenge any couple who believes avoiding hard conversations is how you keep the peace. Follow Carl at: https://www.instagram.com/carllentz/ Follow Laura at: https://www.instagram.com/lauralentz/ Supported by Plana https://plana.org/ Supported by God Behind Bars https://godbehindbars.com  CHAPTERS: 00:00 - If You Dread The Holidays, This Is For You 01:57 - The Stats: 64% Depression Increase + 300% Conflict Amplification 04:32 - Carl In Rehab On Christmas: How We Survived 08:24 - The "Keep The Peace" Trap 11:33 - Peace Is NOT The Absence Of Conflict 14:53 - The 24-Hour Repair Rule (The #1 Marriage Predictor) 18:28 - Clear Some Things Up: The Framework 22:16 - Repair Attempts Within 24 Hours 25:02 - Vulnerable Ownership Lowers Defenses In 90 Seconds 28:09 - How To Bring Up An Issue Without Attacking 31:44 - Plana Partnership 32:10 - Clear Up The Rules Of Engagement 34:43 - The Power Of Short Accounts 38:59 - Let Some Things Go: Celebrating What Annoys You 40:14 - Laura's 4 Annoying Things About Carl 44:00 - Carl's 5 Annoying Things About Laura 49:07 - What Can You Let Go Of Today? 53:16 - Final Questions Before The Holidays End See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    55 min
  5. 11/26/2025

    What Nobody Tells You About Staying After Betrayal

    Want to submit questions? Email us at hello@carlandlaura.com! In this raw episode of Lights On, Carl and Laura Lentz tackle the question every couple secretly asks after betrayal: "Is this hard because we're healing—or hard because something is broken?" The answer will challenge everything you think you know about recovery. Drawing from five years of rebuilding their own marriage, Carl and Laura expose an uncomfortable truth: the betrayed wife often has to work harder than the husband who cheated. Not because it's fair—it's absolutely not—but because staying stuck in suspicion will destroy you faster than the affair ever could. Laura shares why she had to stop being the "police officer" in her marriage and become a "peaceful observer of change." Carl delivers the challenge most men avoid: if you want your wife to trust you again, stop waiting for her to ask the right questions. An honest man tells on himself. From the difference between "spotlight work" and "shadow work," to why demanding honesty when you can't handle the answers creates a dangerous cycle, this episode delivers practical frameworks you can use today. This episode will challenge any betrayed spouse who believes healing is the cheater's job alone. ----- Follow Carl at: https://www.instagram.com/carllentz/ Follow Laura at: https://www.instagram.com/lauralentz/ --- Supported by Plana https://plana.org/ ----- ## CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Is This The Right Kind of Hard? 05:33 - The "You Cheated" Trump Card 09:49 - Why This Takes Constant Work 13:04 - Spotlight Work vs Shadow Work 20:21 - The Betrayed Wife Has To Work Too 27:21 - Police Officer vs Peace Observer 38:59 - Plana Partnership 39:54 - What An Honest Man Will Tell You 51:22 - Patterns Over Promises 55:47 - The Right Kind of Difficult See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    1 hr
  6. 11/19/2025

    Can Couples Actually Survive Infidelity? (From Our 5 Years Of Healing)

    Email us: hello@carlandlaura.com In this urgent conversation, Carl and Laura Lentz tackle an email that made them immediately stop everything and record: a woman whose husband has had over 200+ sexual encounters with prostitutes, massage parlors, and emotional affairs—yet he's calling HER controlling for asking him to stop chatting with younger women at the gym. Drawing from their own five years of rebuilding trust after infidelity, they expose the dangerous pattern that destroys second chances: the betrayer who refuses to see what's obvious. Carl reveals why any man who's broken his marriage vows cannot ask anything "outrageous" from his wife ("You could ask me to build a papier-mâché dragon and I'm doing it"), while Laura opens up about the exhausting reality of being told you're crazy when your intuition was right all along. They demolish the myth that boundaries after betrayal are "controlling" when the brutal truth is: if you cheated, you created this—every single boundary she asks for is sacred, not crazy. From why "I'm just being friendly" is the most dangerous phrase a cheating husband can say, to the therapist who tricked Carl into humility by making him assume everything he heard was right for one week, this episode validates every betrayed partner who's been gaslit into thinking their needs are unreasonable. They reveal why the betrayed person gets to be "selfish" for a season (and why that season might be 10 years), how tolerance is conditioned over time starting way before marriage, and why Carl still reports when there's a woman receptionist at his doctor's office five years later. The frame that changes everything: You can't rebuild trust while the behaviors that broke it are still being defended. And if you're the one who cheated and you're sitting there thinking "but she's being unreasonable" while defending your right to talk to other women, this conversation exposes why you're not ready to change and what that means for your marriage. Warning: This episode will challenge men who think they've apologized enough and may trigger those who've weaponized the word "controlling" to avoid accountability for their betrayal. --------- Follow Carl at: https://www.instagram.com/carllentz/ Follow Laura at: https://www.instagram.com/lauralentz/ --------- CHAPTERS: 00:00 - Urgent Pod: The Email That Made Us Record Immediately 03:33 - 200+ Affairs And He Says She's Being Ridiculous 07:16 - Nothing You're Asked Is Outrageous After Betrayal 11:48 - You Created This Pattern Over Hundreds Of Decisions 15:00 - The Receptionist Story: Why Carl Still Reports Everything 17:09 - You Can't Rebuild Trust While Defending Old Behaviors 22:00 - "I'm Just Being Friendly" Is Feeding An Old System 27:40 - Controlling vs. Protecting: How To Know The Difference 32:14 - Shaming vs. Setting Boundaries: The Dignity Question 36:07 - What You Tolerate: Trauma, Fear, And Fatigue 40:43 - What Pattern Of Mine Keeps Me Stuck In Their Pattern? 43:19 - The College Boyfriend Story: How Tolerance Gets Conditioned 45:40 - If Love Costs You Peace, Is It Love? 47:21 - The Question Every Husband Should Ask About Boundaries See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    50 min
  7. 11/12/2025

    Married for 23 years. If you want it to last, watch this

    At 47 years old and 23 years into marriage, Carl and Laura Lentz drop the most uncomfortable truth about relationships: your marriage doesn't need more love, it needs more PROOF. After surviving public infidelity that should have ended everything (200+ affairs, strip clubs, massage parlors), they expose the lie you're living: that talking about your marriage mattering is the same as proving it matters. Carl gets brutally honest: "If I looked at your phone, your calendar, your actual schedule—would it prove your marriage is your priority? Or would it prove you're full of shit?" Laura reveals how she literally set three daily phone reminders to text Carl encouragement because her brain was so rewired by betrayal that thinking positive thoughts about him required literal alarms. Consistency compounds connection. What you feed grows. And your spouse is getting the leftovers after everyone else gets your best. They reveal three investments that build marriage safety: your healthiest thoughts (stop thinking ABOUT your spouse, start thinking FOR them), your most intentional time (your schedule is a receipt showing what you actually value), and yourself (you can't give what you don't have). Carl starts every morning thinking "What does my beautiful wife need today?" before checking his phone. Laura's lock screen says "My husband is obsessed with me" to rewire her traumatized brain. Their non-negotiable 6:30pm walk: 10 minutes her, 10 minutes him, no phones. The confrontation that will expose you: "What's your most dominant thought about your marriage?" Not what you say in therapy, the actual thought loop running 24/7. Because as Carl learned: "My dominant thought for years was 'I've messed this up and it's matter of time before it explodes.' I got exactly what I thought." The truth nobody wants to hear: You didn't "fall out of love." You stopped choosing to invest. You didn't "grow apart." You fed different things. Warning: This episode will challenge the dad using "I'm too busy" as an excuse and the mom using "I'm too selfless" as a shield for staying stuck. Seven-day challenge Carl guarantees will transform your marriage: Every morning for seven days, choose one generous thought about your spouse and do one small action from that thought. Small investments made consistently build a foundation nothing can touch. —---- Follow Carl: https://www.instagram.com/carllentz/ Follow Laura: https://www.instagram.com/lauralentz/ —--- CHAPTERS: 00:00 - 47 Years Old: What We're Convinced About 05:12 - Investment #1: Your Healthiest Thoughts 12:35 - Laura's Daily Text Reminders 17:29 - What's Your Most Dominant Thought? 24:16 - Investment #2: Your Most Intentional Time 30:45 - You Didn't Fall Out of Love 36:08 - Investment #3: Invest in Yourself 41:52 - Why Moms Must Put Themselves First 47:33 - Seven-Day Challenge: Be the Solution 52:14 - Outpace Each Other to Change 55:40 - Proof Not Ideas: Show Me Your Schedule See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

    52 min

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Lights On with Carl Lentz is exactly what this show is. Carl Lentz is turning on the lights in his own life, & giving people space to do the same. We will lead with vulnerability, & have open conversations to bring light to the inner darkness in our lives. Turn on the lights with us!

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