Are you looking for a group of like-minded women to do this messy, beautiful work with? Come and join us for 30 days free at The Breaking Free Studio: https://www.thegoodgirlgamechangers.com/the-breaking-free-studio What grief are you carrying right now? Is it the loss of someone you love, a relationship that's ended, a hope that didn't work out, or the heaviness of what's happening in the world? And where do you go when it all feels like too much? In this episode, Chelle talks with wellbeing researcher and nature connection specialist Simon Coverdale about the difference between being in nature and being in relationship with it. 1:47 — Introducing Simon Coverdale: wellbeing researcher and nature connection specialist with over 20 years experience working alongside First Nations communities 2:13 — Simon shares his strong boy story 3:13 — Why good girl and strong boy conditioning hasn't faded with the generations, and what the manosphere signals about pressure on young people today 5:32 — Simon's relationship with nature growing up 8:59 — What the research shows: how nature connection links to vitality, well-being, and the easing of self-monitoring that lets us just be 11:54 — Awe, perspective, and perfectly imperfect: how witnessing nature's cycles helped Chelle give herself permission to stop chasing perfection. 13:33 — Eco-anxiety, burnout in the environmental sector, and why deepening nature connection builds the very resources we need to keep caring 15:44 — Sitting with grief and love at the same time: "Grief is nature's receipt for the way we love" 18:30 — The difference between time in nature (contact) and being in relationship with it (connection), and why it matters 21:00 — How Chelle moved from walking past the sea to being in it: the "wall of green," learning tree names, and drawing a circle in the sand each morning 28:00 — Connection to country: Simon on five years working with Dja Dja Wurrung people, what country really means, and why Western nature science and Indigenous knowing are "same, same, but different" 32:00 — Chelle visits the land of her Irish ancestors: a nature-based ancestral retreat and a cellular experience she didn't expect 34:14 — Where to start: nearby nature, indoor plants, doing what you already enjoy, and why you don't need to know your bird calls 37:00 — Three Good Things in Nature: the research-backed micro-practice that builds well-being and nature connection at the same time 39:24 — Two hours a week is the tipping point, using your senses as a doorway, and the five pathways to nature connectedness 41:03 — Closing, resources, and Robin Wall Kimmerer's quote on plants as those who take care of us
