Marriage Is About Love, Divorce Is About Money® Podcast

Gabrielle Clemens

Are you dealing with divorce and looking for financial guidance? Welcome to the Marriage Is About Love Divorce Is About Money® Podcast with Gabrielle Clemens. Gabrielle is a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA®), former Divorce/Tax Attorney, and author of the book “Marriage Is About Love Divorce Is About Money®.” Gabrielle aims to transform your concerns into confidence. Each episode is an extension of Gabrielle’s book, featuring chapter-by-chapter discussions to help you navigate the financial decisions and challenges during the divorce process. If you’re facing the uncertainties of divorce or striving to understand your financial future, Gabrielle’s wisdom is your guide to turning challenges into opportunities for growth, courage, and confidence.

  1. 06/13/2025

    All About Real Estate Decisions After Divorce, with Jamie Grossman (Ep. 21)

    What if your dream home becomes a barrier during your divorce?  Join Gabrielle Clemens, JD, LLM, Certified Divorce Financial Analyst, and Accredited Estate Planner, as she sits down with Jamie Grossman, a top-tier real estate advisor, who shares essential insights into handling real estate decisions amidst the emotional backdrop of divorce. Jamie’s personal journey through divorce, combined with her professional wisdom, offers listeners a balanced perspective on deciding whether to keep or sell the marital home.  Key Insights: The emotional vs. financial aspects of keeping or selling the marital home [00:02:21] Practical advice for those downsizing post-divorce [00:10:37] Strategies for resolving disagreements on home valuation during divorce [00:18:26] The importance of having a supportive professional team during these transitions [00:27:18] Resources: Marriage Is About Love Divorce Is About Money® by Gabrielle Clemens Navigating Home Ownership After Divorce (Ep. 20) Connect with Gabrielle Clemens:  LinkedIn: Gabrielle Clemens  Instagram: @gabbyclemensdivorce GabrielleClemens.com Phone:  (781) 910-4770  Connect with Jamie Grossman: LinkedIn: Jamie Grossman MGS Group Real Estate Jamie Grossman MGS  About Our Guest: Jamie Grossman is a well-known, trusted, and compassionate member of the Greater Boston real estate community. Prior to joining MGS Group Real Estate, Jamie was with Benoit Mizner Simon and then Gibson Sotheby’s, where she was selected by Modern Luxury to be featured in their Real Estate Industry Leaders Home/Real Estate issue of Boston Common February 2021 issue. Jamie offers her fresh, solution-driven approach to help her clients achieve best results. Operating with the integrity for which she is known, she enjoys working with clients throughout the Metro West and Greater Boston markets.

    30 min
  2. 04/04/2025

    Finding Peace and Growth After Divorce with Heather (Ep. 17)

    What does it take to transform the turmoil of divorce into a journey of personal growth and fulfillment? Gabrielle Clemens, JD, LLM, Certified Divorce Financial Analyst, and Accredited Estate Planner engages with Heather, a dynamic guest who has navigated her divorce with grace and a future-focused mindset. Heather’s story is a testament to embracing change, as she shares her experience of mutual respect and cooperation with her ex-husband for the benefit of their children.  They discuss the pivotal role of building a supportive team—attorneys, financial advisers, and therapists—to guide them through these challenges. Key Insights: [00:02:18] Heather’s transition from a bustling family life to divorce and beyond [00:05:26] Selecting the right attorney and the benefits of amicable legal counsel [00:08:32] The transformative role of therapists for both adults and children during divorce [00:12:06] Building a robust financial plan with professional guidance [00:16:12] The power of a collaborative approach to divorce and drafting a fair settlement [00:25:15] Reflections on when to move forward with divorce for personal growth [00:30:23] Finding light and fulfillment in post-divorce life Resources: Marriage Is About Love Divorce Is About Money® by Gabrielle Clemens Connect with Gabrielle Clemens:  LinkedIn: Gabrielle Clemens  Instagram: @gabbyclemensdivorce GabrielleClemens.com Phone:  (781) 910-4770  Connect with Heather: Babson College About Our Guest: Before joining Babson College, Heather worked at GW & Wade, a wealth management firm based in Wellesley, MA. In this role, she specialized in assisting clients with tax, estate, and financial planning, leveraging extensive knowledge and expertise to provide comprehensive financial solutions.

    33 min
  3. 03/21/2025

    Transforming Divorce Challenges into Opportunities with Katie Greeley (Ep. 16)

    Are you navigating a divorce and wondering how to protect your financial future? Gabrielle Clemens, JD, LLM, Certified Divorce Financial Analyst and Accredited Estate Planner, sits down with Katie Greeley, Certified Divorce Lending Professional (CDLP), who shares insights on the unique challenges of managing mortgages during divorce. Discover why having a certified divorce lending professional on your team is critical when navigating the complexities of keeping or refinancing your home post-divorce.  Gabrielle and Katie break down the importance of understanding family law’s impact on mortgage decisions, and how to strategically plan for securing your housing future. Key Insights: Key considerations for home buyouts and refinancing options [00:07:48] The significance of mortgage assumption in divorce [00:11:42] How to handle joint mortgage obligations when separating [00:15:20] Takeaways for individuals seeking to maintain or acquire new housing post-divorce [00:26:55] Resources: Marriage Is About Love Divorce Is About Money® by Gabrielle Clemens Connect with Gabrielle Clemens:  LinkedIn: Gabrielle Clemens  Instagram: @gabbyclemensdivorce GabrielleClemens.com Phone:  (781) 910-4770  Connect with Katharine Greeley: LinkedIn: Katharine Greeley Fairway: Katie Greeley Fairway.com Email: katieg@fairwaymc.com Phone: (781) 644-4619 About Our Guest: Katie Greeley is an experienced mortgage professional with a background in project management and financial services. She brings a well-rounded perspective to her clients. She holds a B.A. from the Isenberg School of Management at UMass Amherst and an M.B.A. in Finance and Marketing from Boston College’s Carroll School of Management. Active in Greater Boston’s real estate and mortgage communities, Katie specializes in guiding clients through major life transitions such as divorce, loss of a spouse, or relocation. She also helps integrate mortgage financing into broader financial plans, working with everyone from first-time homebuyers to seasoned investors. Katie focuses on education, communication, and preparation to ensure a smooth, stress-free financing process.

    32 min
  4. 02/21/2025

    A Modern Approach to Marriage Planning with Catherine Cappelli (Ep. 15)

    What happens when prenuptial planning becomes an enlightened conversation about life partnerships?  Join us for a thought-provoking episode as Gabrielle Clemens interviews Catherine Cappelli, a family law attorney with a unique focus on family formation and prenuptial planning. This episode dives into practical ways couples can plan their financial and personal futures together.  Gabrielle Clemens, JD, LLM, Certified Divorce Financial Analyst, and Accredited Estate Planner and Catherine explore the essentials of financial planning before tying the knot, how prenuptial agreements can evolve, and their relevance beyond just the wealthy.  Listen in as Catherine shares her expertise on: The unique approach to drafting prenuptial agreements The role and benefits of mediation and collaborative law in these agreements  Financial and practical considerations for couples avoiding traditional marriage  Tools for protecting parental rights in family formation through science  And more! Resources: Marriage Is About Love Divorce Is About Money® by Gabrielle Clemens Connect with Gabrielle Clemens:  LinkedIn: Gabrielle Clemens  Instagram: @gabbyclemensdivorce GabrielleClemens.com Phone:  (781) 910-4770  Connect with Catherine Cappelli: LinkedIn: Catherine Cappelli Cappelli Law ccappelli@cappellilaw.com (617) 325-2713  About Our Guest:  Catherine Cappelli is a skilled trial attorney with over twenty years of litigation experience. Catherine is highly skilled at responding to crises, anticipating and solving problems, and negotiating and motivating resolutions. For seventeen years, Catherine served as an Assistant District Attorney in Norfolk County prosecuting scores of complex criminal investigations and major felonies involving families and violence. She also supervised and trained prosecutors, tried cases in the District and Superior Courts, and argued cases before the appellate courts in Massachusetts. Should your case require litigation, Catherine will provide decisive representation, fighting for your rights every step of the way. In 2015, Catherine was honored by Massachusetts Lawyers Weekly as one of the Top Women of Law. The award highlights women who are innovators, educators, trailblazers and role models.  Catherine is a frequent commentator on family law topics including Assisted Reproductive Technology (A.R.T.), LGBTQ families, rights and protections, Prenuptial and Marital Agreements and Collaborative Family Law. Catherine is also a trainer in the Commonwealth and nationally for police, corrections, clergy, judges, attorneys, community associations, business leaders, health care professionals, and students in elementary through the graduate school level. Catherine is an active member of the Massachusetts Bar Association, the Boston Bar Association, the Massachusetts LGBTQ Bar Association, and the Massachusetts Women’s Bar Association. Catherine is committed to providing pro bono legal services. She serves as a volunteer attorney for the Rape Survivors’ Law Project at Boston’s Victim Rights Law Center, Volunteer Lawyer’s Project, Senior Partners for Justice, and the Women’s Bar Foundation.

    31 min
  5. 02/10/2025

    Building a Better Post-Divorce Relationship with Ben Stich (Ep. 14)

    What makes mediation a powerful tool in resolving high-conflict divorces?  Gabrielle Clemens, JD, LLM, a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst and Accredited Estate Planner, chats with Ben Stich, a seasoned divorce mediator who specializes in high-conflict situations.  Together, they uncover the transformative power of mediation, showing how it brings calm and clarity to even the most challenging divorces. Ben shares his journey from social work to mediation, offering unique insights into using effective communication and understanding to help couples work through their differences.  This episode’s discussion highlights include: The surprising role of social work skills in mediation Understanding high-conflict dynamics and how mediation can help The structure of a mediation process and its benefits How mediation saves time and money compared to litigation And more! Resources: Marriage Is About Love Divorce Is About Money® by Gabrielle Clemens Connect with Gabrielle Clemens:  LinkedIn: Gabrielle Clemens  Instagram: @gabbyclemensdivorce GabrielleClemens.com Phone:  (781) 910-4770  Connect with Ben Stich: LinkedIn: Ben Stich BenStich.com ben@benstich.com About Our Guest: Ben is a divorce, co-parenting and family mediator. After years working with families as a social worker, Ben fell in love with mediation after taking a training in 2009 and his mediation journey led him to establish Mediation and Family Services in 2014. He has since mediated hundreds of divorces and family disputes helping families stay in control of their decisions while saving time, money, and heartache. Ben is also a Divorce Coach for divorces following the Collaborative Law model. In addition to mediation and collaborative law, Ben is an Instructor for William James College’s High Conflict Co-Parenting Program, trains Collaborative Problem Solving for MGH Psychiatry’s Think Kids program, and is on the Board of Directors for the Massachusetts Council on Family Mediation. Ben regularly presents workshops on mediation, divorce, advanced divorce mediation training for mediators, how therapists can support divorcing clients, and more.

    39 min

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Are you dealing with divorce and looking for financial guidance? Welcome to the Marriage Is About Love Divorce Is About Money® Podcast with Gabrielle Clemens. Gabrielle is a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA®), former Divorce/Tax Attorney, and author of the book “Marriage Is About Love Divorce Is About Money®.” Gabrielle aims to transform your concerns into confidence. Each episode is an extension of Gabrielle’s book, featuring chapter-by-chapter discussions to help you navigate the financial decisions and challenges during the divorce process. If you’re facing the uncertainties of divorce or striving to understand your financial future, Gabrielle’s wisdom is your guide to turning challenges into opportunities for growth, courage, and confidence.