The Next Interview Show

Doland White

Each week, I pull back the curtain on what it really takes to lead at a higher level. Alongside my guests—expert leaders in their own right—I share modern strategies, hard-earned leadership insights, and real coaching scenarios drawn from the work I do with executives and teams across the country. No theory. No fluff. Just practical guidance you can put to work the moment the episode ends.

  1. 3d ago

    How Great Leaders Reinvent Themselves | Jay Sargeant

    What happens when the identity that made you successful starts limiting what you believe you can do next? In this episode of The Next Interview, Doland White sits down with Jay Sargeant, author of Shift: The Gift of Reinvention, for a conversation about Leadership Development, reinvention, confidence and why leadership growth never has an expiration date. Jay has reinvented himself across seven dramatically different careers. Along the way, he developed three principles that challenge how experienced leaders think about growth: credentials are overrated, there are no small moments, and it's never too late to change. For Directors, Vice Presidents, Founders and CEOs, this isn't simply a conversation about changing careers. It's about Executive Leadership and the willingness to keep becoming. Jay and Doland explore why accumulated experience can become either an asset or a constraint, why confidence frequently follows action, and why staying “open at the top” is essential to a strong Leadership Mindset. You'll learn: • How to identify transferable capabilities before chasing another credential • Why ordinary conversations can become career-defining moments • How curiosity strengthens Business Leadership and Leadership Communication • Why confidence often develops after you take action • How lifelong learning strengthens Executive Leadership and Leadership Coaching • Why reinvention can improve how you approach growth, Team Performance and Workplace Culture Timestamps 00:00 Why leaders need to reinvent 06:00 Jay's seven careers and Shift 15:00 Why credentials can hold you back 29:00 There are no small moments 45:00 Reinvention belongs to the willing 54:00 Building confidence through action 61:00 Purpose versus the safe choice 70:00 Lifelong learning and choosing your models 78:00 Why it's never too late to change If you're navigating a transition—or wondering whether the leadership approach that got you here will take you where you want to go next—this conversation is for you. Meet Coach Jay: https://www.theshiftproject.academy/ - theshiftjay@gmail.com – Shift https://a.co/d/0d0OvUta Subscribe to The Next Interview for conversations about Leadership Development, Executive Leadership, Leadership Coaching, Business Leadership and Leadership Mindset. Share this episode with a leader who may be ready for their next chapter. Tags leadership development executive leadership leadership coaching business leadership leadership mindset The Next Interview Doland White Jay Sargeant Jay Sargeant interview Shift The Gift of Reinvention leadership reinvention career reinvention executive coaching CEO leadership founder leadership leadership growth leadership confidence lifelong learning leadership communication personal transformation Hashtags #LeadershipDevelopment #ExecutiveLeadership #LeadershipCoaching #BusinessLeadership #TheNextInterview

    How Great Leaders Reinvent Themselves | Jay Sargeant
  2. Oct 1

    Move from Disagreement to Commitment | Pat Furey

    Your team has heard the decision. Have they committed to making it work? Former Torrance Mayor Pat Furey joins Doland White on The Next Interview to explore how listening, acknowledging contributions, and keeping a shared purpose in view help leaders turn disagreement into coordinated action. For Directors, Vice Presidents, Founders, and CEOs, this conversation brings leadership development into a familiar situation: people have different opinions, a decision must be made, and the work still needs to move forward. Pat draws on his public-service experience to explore how leaders create room for discussion while helping people commit to the outcome. You’ll hear examples of listening before directing, inviting others to propose the way forward, and recognizing contributions even when only part of an idea is adopted. These are practical executive leadership habits for anyone navigating competing priorities or trying to strengthen leadership communication. In this episode, you’ll learn how to: • Ask open questions that make room for alternatives before a decision closes. • Show people how their input influenced the direction, helping build trust and ownership. • Separate a person’s preferred option from the commitment needed to move forward. • Use institutional humility to understand people and processes before pushing change. • Keep a shared purpose visible during disruption and difficult decisions. The leadership coaching application is straightforward: in your next decision conversation, summarize what you heard, explain what shaped the outcome, and ask for a clear commitment to the next step. Choose one practice and use it before your next week gets busy. • 00:00 Meet former Torrance Mayor Pat Furey • 06:00 Listen before you lead • 15:00 Turn input into ownership and commitment • 23:00 Lead through disruption with a shared purpose Subscribe to The Next Interview for conversations that help you empower your team and lead with confidence. Share this episode with a leader navigating disagreement, and comment: What will you change in your next decision conversation? Guest: Pat Furey, former two-term Mayor of Torrance, California. Personal website and preferred LinkedIn profile awaiting confirmation. Hosted by Doland White, executive coach, author of Lead With Confidence®, and The Empowerment Guy. Order the book: https://www.dolandwhite.com/lwc Explore Doland’s work: https://www.dolandwhite.com Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dolandwhite

    Move from Disagreement to Commitment | Pat Furey
  3. Sep 22

    How to Get Unstuck and Lead What’s Next | Jennifer Doty

    What if the biggest constraint on your leadership isn’t your team, your organization or the market—but the story you believe about what’s possible? Jennifer Doty, Vice President of Customer Operations at ThreeFlow, executive advisor, keynote speaker and author of Just Lead and Find the Right Now Role, joins Doland White on The Next Interview for a practical conversation about leadership, identity, trust, reinvention and creating what comes next. After nearly two decades at MetLife—including leading approximately 1,400 people across the U.S. and India—Jennifer had to confront a question many successful executives eventually face: Who am I beyond my job title? Her answer became a lesson in Leadership Development, Executive Leadership and Leadership Mindset. Jennifer explains why getting unstuck begins with examining the stories and beliefs running between your ears. She shares how leaders can define what they actually want, identify what is already working and move forward without immediately abandoning their current role. The conversation also explores Leadership Trust and Leadership Communication in virtual organizations. Jennifer explains why intentionally spending time with people remains some of the highest-value work a leader can do—and why influence becomes especially important when you don’t have positional authority. And we tackle AI Leadership. AI can create enormous velocity, but Jennifer argues that technology does not eliminate the human relationship at the center of Business Leadership. Leaders still need to provide context, validate outputs, exercise judgment and build genuine relationships. In this episode, you’ll learn: • How to recognize the beliefs keeping you stuck • Why identity should be bigger than your job title • How to lead through influence instead of control • Why relationships remain essential in an AI-driven workplace • How Plan → Do → Review creates learning and accountability Estimated timestamps: 00:00 — Jennifer Doty’s leadership journey 15:00 — Beliefs, fear and getting unstuck 25:30 — Building trust and relationships 30:00 — Leading without positional authority 38:00 — AI, judgment and human relationships 43:00 — Building additional possibilities 48:00 — Dreaming bigger and creating what’s next Jennifer Doty — VP of Customer Operations, ThreeFlow Website: JenniferDoty.com LinkedIn: Jennifer Sierveld Doty If this conversation helps your Leadership Development, subscribe to The Next Interview, comment with the lesson you’re taking away and share the episode with another leader. Hosted by Doland White, executive coach, author of Lead With Confidence®, and The Empowerment Guy. Doland White Website Lead With Confidence® The Doland White YouTube Channel Doland White on LinkedIn

    How to Get Unstuck and Lead What’s Next | Jennifer Doty
  4. Sep 15

    Make AI Work With a Clear Leadership Mindset | Doland White

    Your teams have AI tools. Can they explain what they’re trying to accomplish together? In this solo episode of The Next Interview, executive coach and author Doland White explores the leadership work that connects AI strategy to everyday decisions, team priorities, and coordinated execution. An instruction to “go implement AI” leaves a lot for your Directors and VPs to interpret. Without a clear business purpose, departments can build separate initiatives that pull the organization in different directions. Doland explains how leaders create common meaning so people understand both the intended outcome and why their own contribution matters. If you’re a Director, VP, Founder, or CEO responsible for AI adoption, this conversation gives you a practical place to begin. It connects executive leadership with the conversations teams need before they can act confidently. You’ll also hear five reflection questions covering strategic intent, leadership sense making, common meaning, connection to work, and coordinated direction. You’ll learn how to: • Clarify what AI should accomplish and what progress would look like. • Translate executive intent into priorities your team can use. • Check understanding instead of assuming agreement means alignment. • Connect departmental initiatives, decisions, and process dependencies. • Make progress visible so people can see how their work contributes. Start with one question at your next team meeting: “What are we trying to accomplish with AI, and what does that change about your priorities?” Listen for different interpretations and use them to decide what needs clarification. Estimated chapters — verify against the final recording: 00:00 Why AI implementation requires leadership 02:15 The Director and VP translation challenge 04:20 Why AI needs a meaningful business purpose 05:35 How disconnected initiatives deepen silos 07:25 Define strategic intent and visible progress 10:05 Leadership sense making 11:40 Create common meaning 13:55 Connect AI to decisions and priorities 16:20 Coordinate direction across departments 18:40 Review your scores and choose one action Subscribe to The Next Interview for practical leadership coaching and conversations that help you empower your team and lead with confidence. Share this episode with a leader implementing AI, and comment: Where does your strategy lose clarity? Hosted by Doland White, executive coach, author of Lead With Confidence®, and The Empowerment Guy. Explore Doland’s work: dolandwhite.com Order Lead With Confidence®: https://a.co/d/0hqSy7LA Connect on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dolandwhite/ Tags leadership development, executive leadership, leadership coaching, business leadership, leadership mindset, The Next Interview, Doland White, AI leadership, AI implementation, AI readiness, strategic alignment, leadership communication, common meaning, AI adoption, team alignment, executive coaching, decision making, coordinated action, Lead With Confidence, organizational culture Hashtags #LeadershipDevelopment #ExecutiveLeadership #LeadershipCoaching #BusinessLeadership #TheNextInterview

    Make AI Work With a Clear Leadership Mindset | Doland White
  5. Sep 8

    Why Identity Comes Before Leadership Strategy | Cassandra Shea

    Your strategy may fail when an outdated identity builds it. Cassandra Shea, founder and Leadership Scaling Consultant at The Possibility Investor, explains why identity must come before strategy—and how that choice accelerates aligned growth. Directors, VPs, founders, and CEOs will connect Leadership Development, Executive Leadership, Leadership Coaching, Business Leadership, and Leadership Mindset to clearer decisions, communication, execution, Workplace Culture, Team Performance, and Accountability in the Workplace. • Future-cast your role before the plan. • Treat imposter syndrome as skill-gap data. • Test in short sprints; share the learning. Why identity first? It shapes what leaders see and choose. How can leaders make change practical? Test one future behavior and measure the signal. How do retrospectives build Leadership Trust? They make learning and commitments visible. 00:00 — Identity first | 13:30 — Imposter syndrome | 30:00 — Lead change | 54:30 — Learn and recalibrate Subscribe, follow, share, and comment with the identity your next season requires. Cassandra Shea — Founder, The Possibility Investor Website: possibilityinvestor.com LinkedIn: Cassandra Shea The Next Interview is hosted by Doland White, executive coach, author of Lead With Confidence®, and known as The Empowerment Guy. Each episode delivers practical insights, powerful stories, and bold conversations designed to help leaders empower their teams, accelerate growth, and lead with confidence. Visit dolandwhite.com/lwc and order your copy of Lead With Confidence® today.

    Why Identity Comes Before Leadership Strategy | Cassandra Shea
  6. Sep 1

    How Leaders Stop Being the Bottleneck | David Schnurman

    What happens when the leader who built the company becomes the person holding it back? David Schnurman, CEO of Lawline and author of 11 Suitcases, joins Doland White to explore the shift from founder dependency to shared leadership. It connects Leadership Development, Executive Leadership, Leadership Coaching, Business Leadership, and Leadership Mindset. This episode is for Directors, VPs, founders, and CEOs building a Workplace Culture of ownership. • Replace founder dependency with trusted leaders and priorities. • Use bounded experiments to strengthen Leadership Trust, Team Performance, and Accountability in the Workplace. • Write the future, then move before certainty arrives. Can a company scale if every decision depends on the founder? No—scale requires distributed leadership. How can leaders reduce fear? Take the smallest credible action that creates learning. 00:00 Fear and leadership | 10:20 The founder bottleneck | 22:10 Barcelona | 31:30 Bounded failure Subscribe, follow, share, and comment with the decision you need to release. David Schnurman — CEO, Lawline | lawline.com | linkedin.com/in/davidschnurman The Next Interview is hosted by Doland White, executive coach, author of Lead With Confidence®, and known as The Empowerment Guy. Each episode delivers practical insights, stories, and conversations designed to help leaders empower teams, accelerate growth, and lead with confidence. Visit: https://www.dolandwhite.com/lwc and order your copy of Lead With Confidence® today. Leadership Development; Executive Leadership; Leadership Coaching; Business Leadership; Leadership Mindset

    How Leaders Stop Being the Bottleneck  | David Schnurman
  7. Aug 25

    Build a Team That Can Lead Without You | Mike DeJong

    The skills that made you successful can eventually make you the bottleneck. Entrepreneur, business coach, and Grow Smart author Mike DeJong joins Doland White to explore how Leadership Development turns individual capability into Leadership Trust, better Team Performance, and stronger accountability. If you're a Director, VP, Founder, or CEO who still owns too many decisions, this conversation challenges your Leadership Mindset. Executive Leadership isn't about remaining indispensable—it's about developing people capable of leading. • Identify whether you're operating as a Hunter, Architect, or GSD—and what capabilities your team needs around you. • Use clear guardrails to expand autonomy without abandoning Accountability in the Workplace. • Transfer small decisions first and expand authority as competence grows. • Hire people capable of becoming better than you at work you shouldn't continue owning. How do leaders stop being bottlenecks? Build people and systems that can make decisions without constant escalation. How do you improve Workplace Culture? Pair autonomy with clarity, coaching, and accountability. 00:00 Mike's leadership journey
 13:30 Becoming the bottleneck
 17:30 Three leadership styles
 29:30 Building leaders through guardrails Subscribe, follow, share, and comment for more Leadership Coaching and Business Leadership conversations. Mike DeJong — Entrepreneur, Business Coach & Author of Grow Smart: Your Path to Transformation
 Website: https://mikedejong.com/
 LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mikedejongspeaker/ The Next Interview is hosted by Doland White, executive coach, author of Lead With Confidence®, and known as The Empowerment Guy. Each episode delivers practical insights, powerful stories, and bold conversations designed to help leaders empower their teams, accelerate growth, and lead with confidence. Visit: https://www.dolandwhite.com/lwc and order your copy of Lead With Confidence® today.

    Build a Team That Can Lead Without You | Mike DeJong
  8. Aug 18

    How Great Leaders Build Trust Without Losing Accountability | David Guttman

    Putting people first doesn't mean lowering the bar. It may actually be one of the smartest ways to raise it. David Guttman is a serial entrepreneur, investor, and CEO mentor with more than 30 years of experience and multiple eight- and nine-figure business exits. In this episode of The Next Interview, David joins Doland White to challenge a common misconception about servant leadership: caring about people doesn't mean avoiding accountability. Their conversation explores Leadership Development, Executive Leadership, Leadership Coaching, Business Leadership, and the Leadership Mindset required to build Leadership Trust without sacrificing performance. They unpack how transparency strengthens Workplace Culture, why autonomy requires responsibility, and how better communication improves Team Performance and Accountability in the Workplace. If you're a Director, VP, Founder, or CEO trying to empower people while maintaining high standards, this episode is for you. • Give people context and ownership—not simply instructions. • Hire for curiosity and humility, not skills alone. • Practice strong opinions, loosely held. • Make accountability continuous so difficult conversations are never a surprise. Q: Does servant leadership mean being soft? No—strong servant leaders combine genuine care with clear expectations. Q: How do leaders build trust? Give people information, autonomy, and responsibility. Q: What strengthens accountability? Consistent, candid feedback before performance becomes a crisis. 00:00 David's journey and facing mortality 15:00 What servant leadership really means 24:00 Transparency, ownership, and trust 38:00 Accountability and difficult conversations Subscribe, follow, share, and comment with the leadership lesson you're putting into action. Guest: David Guttman — Serial Entrepreneur, Investor & CEO Mentor Website: https://www.guttmanmedia.com LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drguttman YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RealDaveGuttman The Next Interview is hosted by Doland White, executive coach, author of Lead With Confidence®, and known as The Empowerment Guy. Each episode delivers practical insights, powerful stories, and bold conversations designed to help leaders empower their teams, accelerate growth, and lead with confidence. Visit: https://www.dolandwhite.com/lwc and order your copy of Lead With Confidence® today.

    How Great Leaders Build Trust Without Losing Accountability | David Guttman
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Each week, I pull back the curtain on what it really takes to lead at a higher level. Alongside my guests—expert leaders in their own right—I share modern strategies, hard-earned leadership insights, and real coaching scenarios drawn from the work I do with executives and teams across the country. No theory. No fluff. Just practical guidance you can put to work the moment the episode ends.