Cold Open — A Brutal Week and the Toughest Dent Yet Gene opens with a rundown of a genuinely rough week at the shop — Mack was out on vacation, hard cars kept coming in, and dealers kept dropping off extras. Good problems, he says, but problems nonetheless. The highlight (and lowlight) of the week: what Gene calls the deepest, sharpest dent he's ever fixed — a brand-new Ford Explorer with a two-to-two-and-a-half-inch gash at the bottom body line of the door. He started filming it, the repair started going sideways, and he stopped recording and just powered through over a couple of evenings of work-till-frustration, walk away, come back. He's planning a green-screen breakdown video of the before/during/after footage he did manage to capture. He floats a theory that this might be a "summer of hard dents" tied to a softer economy — pointing back to 2008, when Dent Repair Now stayed busy and grew through the recession by picking up more of what he calls "recession dents." PDR Universe Podcast Shoutout Note for Gene: the transcript is inconsistent on the co-host's name — rendered as both "John" and "Jean" in different spots, and the second host as both "Zeeshan" and "Zsan." Please confirm correct spellings before this goes out. Gene gives a shoutout to the PDR Universe podcast, hosted by John (or Jean) and Zeeshan, available on Apple, Spotify, and YouTube via bestpdrtraining.com. He's recording an episode on their show right after this one. Gene mentions he enjoys the non-US perspective the show brings, including past conversations about how hail repair differs between Europe and the co-host's home country of Slovenia. Gene mentions first meeting the co-host at the original GPR PDR competition, and having him on for play-by-play coverage with Danny during that event. This Week's Marketing Minute Setup Based on listener feedback from last week, Gene is bringing back old PDR Marketing Minute episodes rather than retiring the segment. Today's replay is Episode 2, which Gene hadn't listened to in about ten years going into this recording — he and the audience hear it together. Listener Question: Should You Put Pricing on Your Website? Note for Gene: the listener who prompted this topic isn't named on air (referred to only as "Mr. Listener"). No name has been added to any of the content below — flag if you'd like him credited. A listener messaged Gene this week asking his thoughts on posting a price guide directly on a PDR website. Gene admits his thinking has shifted over the years — he used to resist customer texting entirely and now finds it's often the easiest way to interact with a business himself. The listener's approach: a straightforward price guide on his site — starting price per inch, plus factors. Gene contrasts a few different models he's seen in the industry, including the Mobile Tech RX pricing matrix, Dent Repair Now's own custom-built matrix, and a pricing calculator Gene believes lives on dentreaper.com. Note for Gene: you say "I think, I think John Vianden" built the dentreaper.com pricing calculator — please confirm that attribution before publishing. Why a Raw Price Guide Falls Short Gene's first objection: retail customers don't speak PDR. Terms like body line, aluminum, HSS, laminated window, sound deadener, and obstructed damage mean nothing to most people — they might call a body line a "crease" and have no framework for sizing damage the way a technician does. Posting a bare price guide assumes a shared vocabulary that doesn't exist. He also references a pricing calculator he recalls from years back that started at $199 rather than a lower number, on the theory that if a customer wasn't willing to accept at least that entry point, the shop didn't want the call in the first place. Gene connects this to the reality of bad leads eating up front-desk time — Shannon or Gene fielding long, meandering calls that end up going nowhere. His conclusion: the right answer is somewhere between full transparency and full opacity, using price information to filter without oversimplifying. Don't Let Pricing Turn PDR Into a Commodity Gene's second concern with just posting a price list: it risks commoditizing a service that isn't one. He draws a distinction between true commodities — goods like gas or food that move on supply and demand — and PDR, which he frames as a high-skill, high-value trade. It's not cheap because it's costly to deliver real value, not because it should be priced like a shelf item. Checking What the AI Search Engines Say PDR Costs Gene walks through what a customer would currently find by asking Google, Claude, and ChatGPT what PDR costs — revisiting the days when a plain search would return unrealistically low numbers. Google (Gemini) Single-panel fixes: roughly $75–$500 per dent Multi-panel hail damage: roughly $1,200–$4,000+ Small dent (quarter-sized parking lot ding): $75–$200 Medium dent: $200–$500 Large dent or crease: $400–$1,000 Hail damage: $1,200–$4,000+ Notes a 25–50% premium for aluminum panels due to the metal being stiffer and harder Compares favorably to body shops, which it lists at roughly $600–$2,000 for a single panel repair ChatGPT Single small dent: $75–$150 Medium dent: $150–$350 Large dent or multiple dents: $350–$800 Hail damage: $500–$4,500+ Cites factors like size, depth, location, panel type, number of dents, and shop labor rates Gene had also checked Claude in advance of recording and shares those figures too: small door ding (dime to nickel-sized) around $125–$250, medium dent $250–$500, large dent $500–$1,500, plus separate ranges for creases, body-line dents, and hail damage. He notes he told each AI to answer as if it didn't know him personally, though he can't say the results weren't influenced by his prior activity. His takeaway: the AI-generated answers have gotten noticeably better and more specific over time, but they still miss real-world variables — he points to a $5,000 deer-hit insurance job the shop has coming in that week as an example of complexity no generic pricing answer captures. Marcus Sheridan's "They Ask, You Answer" Gene brings in a concept from Marcus Sheridan's book They Ask, You Answer, which argues that businesses build trust and credibility — and drive sales — by directly and thoroughly answering the questions their customers are actually asking, rather than dodging them. Gene relates this to a story from the book about Sheridan's fiberglass pool company, where prospective buyers wanted a ballpark cost early in the conversation and the business had historically avoided giving one. Gene frames this as a version of SEO for the AI era — informally, "AI SEO" — where the same content that helps a human trust you also helps AI models learn to answer pricing questions about PDR more accurately. Gene's Conclusion: Educate, Don't Just Publish a Number Gene lands on an educational approach rather than either extreme. Rather than posting a bare price guide, he wants to build content — videos in particular — that walks a customer through how pricing actually gets determined: starting price, per-inch factors, and complicating conditions like an inaccessible repair area behind a brace, using the same explanation a tech would give in person while inspecting a car. His challenge to listeners: don't just rely on AI and search engines getting smarter about PDR pricing — be the source that teaches both customers and the AIs training on the web. He closes the segment by asking the audience to share their own thoughts on posting pricing publicly. PDR Marketing Minute Throwback — Episode 2: Website 101 This week's replayed Marketing Minute covers the fundamentals of a PDR business website: Get a .com domain if at all possible — customers get confused by .net, .org, or newer extensions If your exact company name isn't available, consider a descriptive alternative (Gene's own dentrepairnow.com came out of this approach and later became his official DBA and company name) Use quality, fast-loading hosting — slow sites lose impatient visitors to competitors Build a mobile-responsive site rather than a separate mobile subdomain — Gene lost search ranking after a Google algorithm update penalized his old mobile-only setup Put your phone number and a clear call to action (Gene uses "Schedule a Repair") prominently at the top of the page Feature strong before-and-after photos shot from a consistent angle, ideally with a tripod, so there's no question it's the same vehicle Include a contact form for leads who'd rather not call or text Build a reviews page that pulls in reviews from Yelp, Facebook, Google, and PDR Nation while keeping visitors on your own site Write original content — never copy from another site, which search engines penalize Listening back, Gene notes the advice held up well overall, aside from the now-outdated mobile-subdomain approach. Tool of the Week: Glexo Blending Hammer Gene's pick this week is his well-worn 4 oz Glexo Blending Hammer from Anson PDR — a tool he calls possibly the perfect blending hammer. He highlights the handle design (a rear grip zone for control and a second bulge for a shorter grip), and the ability to flip to the side of the head for hard, sharp metal-to-metal contact on sharp-tip or VIP work. He and his technician Louie are both repeat buyers — Louie is reportedly on his fifth one, a running joke about how easily he loses tools. The Glexo Blending Hammer is available in 4 oz, 6 oz, and 8 oz versions, with a 15-inch handle across all sizes, from Anson PDR. Wrap-Up: PDR Expo 2026 Gene closes with a reminder that PDR Expo is coming up September 25–26 at The Rio in Las Vegas. He's part of a roundtable discussion on Friday and is doing a hands-on cold glue talk on Saturday, which he's especially excited about. Blog Post Should You Put Your Pricing on Your PDR Website? Man, it's been a week. 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