UU Expressions: Love in Real Life

Canadian Unitarian Council

Welcome to UU Expressions: Love in Real Life, a 10-episode docu-series that discovers, celebrates, and challenges how Unitarian Universalism (UUism) will be practiced across Canada in 2024. With these podcast episodes, we uncover the realities of where UUs are as a faith community and the roadblocks we face moving forward. We are presenting the results of these interviews to show where there is already a diversity of expressions. Please visit our website for more information, notes on insider language, and details of our guests: https://cuc.ca/unitarian-universalism/uu-expressions/

Episodes

  1. Episode 10 - Goosebumps

    01/08/2025

    Episode 10 - Goosebumps

    In our final episode of this series, we explore the Canadian Unitarian Council and how it serves Unitarian Universalism in Canada. Our guests include: Robyn Newton and catharine strickland, UUs of the Salish Sea Anonymous leaders of QUUeer Connecting Liz James from Mirth and Dignity,  and  Reverend Wendy Luella Perkins, founder of Soulful Singing. Peter Scales at First Unitarian Church of Victoria  Jim Sannes and Ellen Papenburg from Canadian Unitarians for Social Justice (CUSJ) Reverend Danie Webber, CUC Youth and Young Adult programming staff  Camellia Jahanshahi,  Rising Together host  Z Brimacombe from Loving Justice group Brenagh Rappaport, host of Gathered Here Reverends Anne Barker and Linda Thompson, CUC's Congregational Life Team Questions for further discussion: Reflect on your UU Expression(s). What are you doing that is so engaging that it gives you goosebumps? In what ways, if any, do you have your ladder up the wrong metaphorical building? How could UU membership work locally, regionally, and nationally if congregational involvement was no longer the only measure of engagement? What possibilities come to mind when you consider Rev. Danie Webber's question, "What if we started shifting how we define a religious professional?" Ellen Papenburg said, "It [the state of UUism in Canada] is not without hope." What gives you hope to continue during this period of change and transition? Thanks to the internet, UUism in Canada is not limited to borders, oceans, and any other form of geography. Wendy Luella's Soulful Singing is an example of a Canadian UU expression reaching across the globe. What different types of goosebump ideas can you dream up for how we can use the internet to open new doors?  What if we rebranded ourselves to make multi-expressions and co-creating a celebrated part of UUism? How would that feel?  As Rev. Danie Webber said, "It is a practice to be Unitarian Universalist. You have to practice these principles. You have to engage and participate in discovering what your community will look like." Having learned more about the state of UUism in Canada through this docuseries, how will you engage and participate in co-creating what your UU community will be like? Consider the writing "The Church of Our Imagination". When you imagine different types of UU expressions, what images engage you so profoundly that they give you goosebumps? Notes and Research Links ⁠About the Canadian Unitarian Council⁠ (Retrieved October 7, 2024) ⁠CUC- Governance and Management⁠ (Retrieved October 7, 2024) ⁠The CUC Co-Lab Event⁠- November 1-3, 2024 (online event to engage all UUs)

    51 min
  2. Episode 8 - Potential

    01/08/2025

    Episode 8 - Potential

    In this episode, we uncover the potential within community ministries that share UU values while creating sustainable revenue streams. Our guests include: Reverends Anne Barker and Linda Thompson, CUC's Congregational Life Team Rev Wendy Luella Perkins, Founder of Soulful Singing Kayoki Whiteduck and Lynn Kofmel-Preston from Ajaski Project (Ottawa First Unitarian Fellowship) Yvette Salinas (Executive Director) and Joanna Barrington (Camp Director), Unicamp, Ontario Karen Dunk Green, Lay Chaplain, Toronto Questions for further discussion: Wendy Luella Perkins challenges us to consider the "deep whys" behind our actions as Unitarian Universalists. What are your UU group's "deep whys" for the various actions you initiate together? What feelings and thoughts arise in you in response to Anne Barker's observation,  "...the reliance on volunteers and not paying fair wages to humans makes it hard to keep something vital"? What beliefs do you hold about volunteerism within spiritual communities? Where did those beliefs originate? What beliefs do you hold about paying people to work for a spiritual community? Where did those beliefs originate? What thoughts, feelings, and questions arise when you imagine UU's creating good-paying jobs to express social justice?  Besides weddings and ceremonies, what other types of social enterprises might UU's be well positioned to co-create? Consider the needs in your area, your UU group's assets and talents, and the things that make your heart sing. What type of CUC membership and services could benefit UU groups engaged in community-based ministry?  Karen Dunk-Green ended the episode by suggesting we need to be willing to invest upfront, believing that what we're offering up to the world is truly of value and will make its way back to us in a way that will matter. What are some courageous offerings your UU community could make that have value within the community at large? Notes and Research Links ⁠Lay Chaplaincy⁠- Canadian Unitarian Council ⁠Shawn Loney⁠- Social Entrepreneur that Anne Barker mentions. ⁠Ajashki Project ⁠ at Ottawa First Unitarian Fellowship ⁠Soulful Singing⁠ - Rev. Wendy Luella Perkin's online singing ministry ⁠Uni-Camp of Ontario

    42 min
  3. Episode 7 - Money

    01/08/2025

    Episode 7 - Money

    In this episode, we discuss money related to community-based ministries, the assets managed by UUs, and the beliefs and systems surrounding it. Our guests include: Liz James from Mirth and Dignity Reverends Anne Barker and Linda Thompson, CUC's Congregational Life Team Kayoki Whiteduck and Lynn Kofmel-Preston from Ajaski Project (Ottawa First Unitarian Fellowship) Yvette Salinas (Executive Director) and Joanna Barrington (Camp Director), Unicamp, Ontario Karen Dunk Green, Lay Chaplain, Toronto Rev Wendy Luella Perkins, Founder of Soulful Singing Questions for further discussion: What beliefs do you have about money? Where do these beliefs originate from? Are they true? How do you know? In what ways do your beliefs about money influence how you approach financial sustainability within your UU community? Reverend Linda Thomson observed that some UU communities are approaching outreach as a recruitment project to find more people to make financial donations. She suggested this comes from a place of fear and vulnerability. In what ways, if any, is this showing up in your UU community? Choose one limiting belief you have about money. If you were to change or release it, what impact could it have? Liz James spoke about how Mirth and Dignity and the Hysterical Society limit the amount of money people can donate to limit the amount of privilege and influence people get to have on the work they do. This limits financial bullying. What thoughts and feelings come up for you when you hear this strategy?  In what ways, if any, does financial bullying happen within your UU community or initiative? What strategies could you use to address this? What thoughts and feelings arise when you think of money as energy? In what ways could UU positively impact "the system" by embracing our place within it more fully and consciously? Notes and Research Links  ⁠Getting to Maybe: How the World is Changed⁠ - book mentioned by Erin ⁠The System⁠- Wikipedia  ⁠The System⁠ - Oxford Dictionary ⁠Ajashki Project ⁠ at Ottawa First Unitarian Fellowship ⁠Unitarian Shelter⁠- Founded by Nanaimo Unitarian Fellowship; now run by Nanaimo Family Life Association ⁠Lay Chaplaincy⁠- Canadian Unitarian Council ⁠Soulful Singing⁠ - Rev. Wendy Luella Perkin's online singing ministry Note 1: ODSP, mentioned by Wendy Luell,a means Ontario Disability Support Program Note 2: APC mentioned by Liz James refers to ⁠the Annual Program Contribution

    58 min
  4. Episode 6 - Community Ministry

    10/11/2024

    Episode 6 - Community Ministry

    In this episode, we will learn how people are harnessing UU values to create meaningful change in their communities.  Our guests include: Kathryn Jane Hazel from Nanaimo Unitarian Shelter Kayoki Whiteduck and Lynn Kofmel-Preston from Ajaski Project (Ottawa First Unitarian Fellowship) Yvette Salinas (Executive Director) and Joanna Barrington (Camp Director), Unicamp, Ontario Karen Dunk Green, Lay Chaplain, Toronto Rev Wendy Luella Perkins, Founder of Soulful Singing Questions for further discussion: What feelings arise when you hear about these community-based ministries? What, if any, beliefs would you need to challenge within yourself to embrace the notion of community-based ministries as legitimate expressions within UUism? The difference between relational support and structure support was mentioned. In what ways could we remove barriers to full inclusion for community-based ministers/ministries within our local and national structures?  What are some needs that exist in your community and world?  What assets (physical, monetary, skills, etc.) does your UU group have that you could utilize to meet those needs in a creative way? What UU value(s) could you draw upon? Lay Chaplains engage many non-UU's in meaningful ways. How could we amplify the work of lay chaplains, understanding that this is valuable outreach? Lynn Kofmel-Preston of the Ajashki Project spoke about how this initiative brought about changes that were hard for some folks at the First Unitarian Congregation of Ottawa. What animal best embodies your views, beliefs, and feelings related to change in your own life? UU community? What shifts would need to happen within you and your group to embrace something new, such as a community-based ministry? Notes and Research Links Ajashki Project  at Ottawa First Unitarian Fellowship Unitarian Shelter- Founded by Nanaimo Unitarian Fellowship; now run by Nanaimo Family Life Association Lay Chaplaincy- Canadian Unitarian Council Report of the Task Force on Polyamory- Canadian Unitarian Council, May 2020 Soulful Singing - Rev. Wendy Luella Perkin's online singing ministry Note 1: E.D.  is short for Executive Director Note 2: Since this recording, Ottawa First Unitarian Fellowship shared this exciting announcement (Sept 8, 2024- Leaders List Announcement): "The 1st Unitarian Ottawa Board is pleased to inform everyone that Ottawa City Council, at its meeting this past Wednesday, September 4, gave approval to the zoning and other changes required for our campus redevelopment and the creation of Odayanhaway, Little Village. This was the final level of approval needed to move forward with this important project, which will provide 220 units of almost entirely affordable rental housing for Ottawa within 200 meters of a new light rail station.  This will include 60 units in a 6-story building being built by Ontario Aboriginal Housing Services on land given to them by the congregation.   A year of further planning now begins, which will be conducted with input from all on our campus, aiming at construction to begin roughly a year from now.  For more information, please visit the  First U affordable housing page." Note 3: MAiD, mentioned in the section on Lay Chaplains, stands for Medical Assistance in Dying.

    48 min
  5. Episode 5 - Proximity

    10/03/2024

    Episode 5 - Proximity

    In this episode, we will attempt to legitimize the creative solutions of UU Expressions who are experiencing a sense of place and space in different ways. Whether far from each other geographically, or in terms of how ministry is practiced, how we are situated can play a huge role in strengthening relationships within our movement and beyond. Our guests include: Luci Dilkus, with Huronia Unitarian Universalist Fellowship Rev Wendy Luella Perkins, Founder of Soulful Singing Janet Pivnick, Minister in Training Robyn Newton and catharine strickland, UUs of the Salish Sea Questions for further discussion: Should the CUC create another avenue for membership for community-based ministries? Why? If so, how could it work?  Would it be possible and helpful for the CUC to create regional hubs? If so, how could it work?  What emotions arise in you as you think about the possibility of collaborating and sharing resources with other UU Expressions in your geographic area? What emotions, ideas, and apprehensions arise in you when you consider the option of nomadic UUism? What role could nature play in enhancing your UU Expression?In what ways, if any, is the upkeep of your building distracting from the work of building an intergenerational UU community? In what ways, if any, is the upkeep of your building distracting from the work of building an intergenerational UU community? Janet Pivnick suggests, "I think the way forward is to honour who we all are. And I think Unitarian Universalism is actually a fantastic place to do that." In what ways could we collectively honour and support community-based ministers within UUism in Canada? Notes and Research Links Inclusivity Forum on Classism  - materials Huronia Unitarian Fellowship- Congregation that has a nomadic style of UUism Unitarian Universalist of the Salish Sea Soulful Singing - Rev. Wendy Luella Perkin's online singing ministry OWL - Our Whole Lives sexuality education

    31 min
  6. Episode 4 - Authenticity

    10/03/2024

    Episode 4 - Authenticity

    In this episode, we explore the value of authentic connection within and beyond traditional UU communities by showcasing 3 affinity groups and a path to ministry that lay outside the congregational expression, followed by a conversation about covenant and the challenges of togetherness. Our guests include: Janet Pivnick, Minister in Training Anonymous leaders of QUUeer Connecting Claire Heistek, with Le Rassemblement unitarien universaliste d'Ottawa catharine strickland, UUs of the Salish Sea Liz James from Mirth and Dignity Z Brimacombe from Loving Justice group Camellia Jahanshahi,  Rising Together host Reverends Anne Barker and Linda Thomson, CUC's Congregational Life Team Questions for further discussion: What feelings and questions arise in you when you consider affinity groups within UUism? How could the notion of safe spaces and dynamic spaces play a role in your UU community? How could you facilitate healthy fluidity between affinity groups and the larger collective? In what ways does your UU community pave the way for authentic connection? Where is there a growing edge? How do you know when it is ethical to ask others to change to suit your needs/desires and when it is not? In the context of inclusion within various UU Expressions, when is compromise a positive, negative, or neutral thing? Within your UU community, how could you actively build trust to ensure that people will embrace the storming phase of group development when it starts? What role is covenant playing in your UU community and how could it be strengthened? How could the concept of roles and intentional friction be used to assist your UU community in co-creating whatever comes next? (think saw metaphor) Notes and Research Links Heartwood House - The organization the Unitarian Universalist Fellowship of Ottawa have a partnership with. Flaming Chalice International - Rev Mwibutsa  (Fulgence) Ndagijima's international ministry. The 8th Principle Process - Forums dedicated to help the national UU community navigate their feelings toward adding the 8th Principle to the previous seven: Individual and communal action that accountably dismantles racism and systemic barriers to full inclusion in ourselves and our institutions. Our Covenant by  Alice Blair Wesley  The Responsibility Covenant - Tool created by the CUC to help create space for those with less relative power to be able to share without facing as much resistance from those with more relative power. Rising Together- Online affinity group for UU's of Colour   Unitarian Universalists of the Salish Sea- The new UU community that is centring youth and young adults in their UU expression. Note 1: After recording was complete the facilitators of QUUeer connecting informed us that they are taking a leave as they navigate a busy time of their life. If people are interested in connecting, or helping to keep the group going, they can send an email to UU connecting.

    1h 26m
  7. Episode 3 - The Bridge

    09/23/2024

    Episode 3 - The Bridge

    Intergenerational UU communities aren't just beautiful aspirations; they are one key to a long-lasting faith organization. We know that it's possible to celebrate the differences between how each age expresses their UUism while simultaneously bridging the cultural gap, because there are wise folks in our midst who care deeply about this issue and have done a lot of thinking and experimenting around it. In this episode, we will learn about the realities that prevent engagement between older and younger adults, what's been working, what could help, and what still needs our attention. We'll look at the trends happening within the larger society and how these are impacting UUism.  Guests include:  Peter Scales, First Unitarian Church of Victoria  Jim Sannes and Ellen Papenburg, Canadian Unitarians for Social Justice (CUSJ) Casey Stainsby and Reverend Danie Webber, CUC Youth and Young Adult programming staff  Camellia Jahanshahi,  Rising Together host  Z Brimacombe with Ilara Stafaniuk-Gaudet, Loving Justice group,  Brenagh Rappaport and Maya Ferguson Klinowski, hosts of Gathered Here Reverends Anne Barker and Linda Thompson, CUC's Congregational Life Team Robyn Newton and Catharine Strickland, UUs of the Salish Sea Questions Younger UUs speak about life feeling precarious, including insecure housing and employment. The value of paying young adults for time spent on UU's work was lifted up. What questions and ideas arise when you consider paying younger leaders for their roles in their UU community? Ilara Stefaniuk-Gaudet said, "Because we have focused so much on the individual, there is not so much a strong sense of a collective".   a. What, if anything, has an individual vs collective focus manifested in your local and national UU community?  b. How could UUs create more balance between individual and collective while still emphasizing each person's right to their own search for truth and meaning? Rev Danie Webber shared that younger UUs often value authenticity over politeness, and older UUs often value politeness over authenticity and that this difference may play a role in the silos that seems to be happening in some places. Can you think of examples or real-life scenarios of this? What responsibility, if any, do younger UU's have to carry forward the traditions, values, and legacy of the UUs that came before them? What responsibility, if any, do older UU's have to fertilize the work of younger UU leaders, even if what they are co-creating is not a UU expression that older UU's prefer? If UUs were to create a program that taught and celebrated the role of UUs in all stages of life, what components would be key for each stage of life, including infancy, childhood, teenagerhood, young adult, mid-adult, recently retired, and very elderly? How can we use the old structures of UUism to support something new coming forward rather than allowing them to be a barrier to something new coming forward? Notes and Links Volunteer-Supporting Charities Are Closing at Alarming Rates, PANL Perspectives, Tues. Aug. 22/23 Canada’s first State of youth report: for youth, with youth, by youth, Government of Canada (Retrieved Sept. 11, 2024). Critical lack of volunteers putting Canadian non-profit services at risk: Volunteer Canada, CBC News, Jan. 24, 2023. Youth Volunteering: Let’s make space for our young people again! , 125 United For Literacy, Sept. 12, 2023. Volunteer Canada- August 2023- Pre-budget submission to the House of Commons, Volunteer Canada, August 2023. Note 1: The "well in the middle of the village" is an idiom for a watering hole, or a place where people socialize - the well is the life source that brings people together, and a symbol of the depth of relating between them.  Amber Bellemare Note 2: Emergent Strategy [book], adrienne maree brown, 2017, AK Press.  Amber makes reference to this author and emergent strategy. Note 3: Discord is a type of social media that some people are using to stay in touch. It is quite popular with Young Adult UU's.

    1h 19m
  8. Episode 2 - The Gap

    09/23/2024

    Episode 2 - The Gap

    In this episode, we'll look more closely at two defining expressions, congregational culture and young adult culture, how they interact, and what they mean for the future of UUism. Guests include:  Peter Scales at First Unitarian Church of Victoria  Jim Sannes and Ellen Papenburg from Canadian Unitarians for Social Justice (CUSJ) Casey Stainsby and Reverend Danie Webber, CUC Youth and Young Adult programming staff  Camellia Jahanshahi,  Rising Together host  Z Brimacombe with Ilara Stafaniuk-Gaudet from Loving Justice group,  Brenagh Rappaport and Maya Ferguson Klinowski, hosts of Gathered Here Reverends Anne Barker and Linda Thompson, CUC's Congregational Life Team Questions for further discussion How can we fully embrace the culture that is emerging from Young Adult (YA) spaces so people can experience it throughout their lives (instead of ending at 35 years)? Consider the analogy of Young Adult co-creative culture being like contemporary theatre while congregational culture is like classical theatre: How does playing a role feel different than filling a role? Why is this significant?  In what ways could elements of co-creative UUism be intertwined with elements of classical UUism in a way that could be compelling for all ages?  In what ways can we lean into our shared belief of interdependence so that we become communities that feel like unified teams where life challenges and spiritual growth are faced collectively rather than individually? What is one thing you could immediately do differently within your UU community so there is an emphasis on deep relationships between people of all ages? Notes and Research Links ‘Gone by 2040’: Why some religions are declining in Canada faster than ever, Global News, Jan. 8/22 Young Adults & Beyond: Final Report August 2024, Canadian Unitarian Council. Young Adult Ministry Resources, Canadian Unitarian Council (Retrieved Sept. 11/24) Canadian Unitarians for Social Justice (Retrieved Sept. 11/24) Abolition: A World without Prisons & Police. Tulane University (Retrieved Sept. 11/24) Remembering Maiken (Dani) Cooper, Canadian Unitarian Council (Retrieved Sept. 11/24) Contact : lovingjusticceuu@protonmail.com" Sending Unarmed Responders Instead of Police: What We’ve Learned, The Marshall Project, July 25, 2024. Gathered Here , Canadian Unitarian Council (Retrieved Sept. 11/24) (Online group for Young Adults) Note 1: The CUC's Youth and Young Adult Team have pointed out that Young Adult culture is the same as Youth culture.   "I want to add, which is to complicate the narrative that the CUC at some point just decided to invest in YA programming and now we have this community/problem. I don’t want us to forget that everything that’s going on now has decades (centuries) of history behind it. The continental youth and young adult movements have long histories. The YAs who were part of sparking the current national YA situation were very much involved in and inspired by continental UU young adult organizing (OPUS, CUUYAN). And many of them, in turn, were raised in continental UU youth events. This would be a whole other podcast episode or series to really investigate but I suspect that a lot of the brilliance and a lot of the roots of the current challenges have their origins in these broader, longer movements. One thing to watch that will give more context to this is the movie "Why Are You You?" .  That is currently in production- it’s a documentary about the continental YRUU movement."  Casey Stainsby  Note 2: "The naming of "young adult" was inherited from the UUA. When we became more autonomous in 2001, Young Adult support was still funded, to some degree, by the UUA - and so their age definitions became ours. We've never shifted from this." Rev. Linda Thompson Note 3: "Adults at the Annual Conference and Meeting *also* plunge into a kind of UU utopia that lasts for only 72 hours.  Adults and YA's both yearn for keeping that conference flame alive in their hearts when they get home." Peter Scales

    56 min
  9. Episode 1 - Wildflowers

    09/23/2024

    Episode 1 - Wildflowers

    In this episode, we introduce the series' theme by uncovering the contrast between a UU congregation, an online meme community, and a daily singing group that falls somewhere in between.  Our guests include  Peter Scales at First Unitarian Church of Victoria,  Liz James from Mirth and Dignity,  and  Reverend Wendy Luella Perkins, founder of Soulful Singing Questions for further discussion What feelings arise when you hear about the decline in those attending the congregational expression of UUism? What beliefs are behind those feelings? What feelings arise in you when you hear that there are "wildflower" expressions of UUism happening within Canada? What beliefs are behind those feelings? What beliefs, customs, routines, and fears get in the way of you imagining other ways of doing and being a Unitarian Universalist? What "wildflower" expressions of UUism are blooming (or trying to bloom) in your community? How are you currently engaging with them? Notes and Research Links Humanist Unitarian Universalists, Unitarian Universalist Association (Retrieved Sept. 11/24) ‘Gone by 2040’: Why some religions are declining in Canada faster than ever, Global News, Jan. 8/22 Volunteer-Supporting Charities Are Closing at Alarming Rates, PANL Perspectives, Tues. Aug. 22/23 Singing mindfully with spirit and joy, Wendy Luella Perkins, (Retrieved Sept. 11/24) Resolutions: 1978-1984– Sexual Orientation, A Summary, Canadian Unitarian Council (Retrieved Sept. 11/24) Unitarian Universalist Community Cooperatives (What Liz James referenced)  (Retrieved Sept. 11/24) Unitarian Universalist Hysterical Society (Retrieved Sept. 11/24). Love the UU Hysterical Society?  [Facebook group] (Retrieved Sept. 11/24). Note 1:  In each congregation, there are a fair number of people who are not official members - for a variety of reasons. For instance, some don't believe in joining, some congregations discourage membership if people don't make a certain level of financial pledges, and other reasons. The Congregational Life team estimates the difference between members and census-identified people has been about 1 registered member to every 3 non-registered attendees. *These podcast episodes reflect the thoughts and experiences of our guests, not necessarily that of the Canadian Unitarian Council's.

    40 min

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Welcome to UU Expressions: Love in Real Life, a 10-episode docu-series that discovers, celebrates, and challenges how Unitarian Universalism (UUism) will be practiced across Canada in 2024. With these podcast episodes, we uncover the realities of where UUs are as a faith community and the roadblocks we face moving forward. We are presenting the results of these interviews to show where there is already a diversity of expressions. Please visit our website for more information, notes on insider language, and details of our guests: https://cuc.ca/unitarian-universalism/uu-expressions/