Leadership Rules

Marnie Stockman and Nick Coniglio

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Welcome to Leadership Rules, where we believe leadership isn’t just a role—it’s a way of life. Whether you're leading a team, a community, or simply leading yourself, we’re here to help you explore the possibilities. And we are bringing guests along to share their journeys, their own leadership rules and lessons we can use along the way. Welcome to our podcast! Marnie Stockman and Nick Coniglio

12h ago

Leadership Rules with Dr. Heather Handler

🎧 Leadership Rules with Dr. Heather Handler Title: Stop Asking Kids What They Want to Be What if we've been asking students the wrong question all along? Instead of asking, "What do you want to be when you grow up?", Dr. Heather Handler believes we should be asking something much more powerful: "What do you enjoy doing?" In this episode of Leadership Rules, Nick and Marnie sit down with educator, youth apprenticeship pioneer, and author Dr. Heather Handler to discuss career readiness, work-based learning, and why modern Career and Technical Education (CTE) looks nothing like many people remember. Heather shares lessons from launching one of Maryland's most successful youth apprenticeship programs and explains why exposing students to real opportunities early can change the trajectory of their lives. In this conversation, we explore: • Why modern CTE is not the vocational education of the past • How youth apprenticeships help students build confidence, purpose, and career direction • Why college and career readiness should work together, not compete • How AI is changing the future of work and increasing demand for skilled trades • Why exposure to careers should begin long before high school • The importance of helping students discover their strengths, interests, and preferred ways of working Heather also shares insights from her new book, The Educator's Guide to Youth Apprenticeships, a practical roadmap for educators looking to create meaningful work-based learning experiences for students. If you care about leadership, education, workforce development, or helping young people discover who they are becoming, this episode is for you. 📘 Learn More The Educator's Guide to Youth Apprenticeships Available on Amazon 💼 Connect with Dr. Heather Handler on LinkedIn

29 min
May 27

Leadership Rules with Kristy Volesky

🎧 Leadership Rules with Kristy Volesky Title: Finish Doesn’t Equal Ready What if school was designed less around compliance… and more around real life? In this episode of Leadership Rules, Nick and Marnie sit down with educator, consultant, and CTE Reimagined co author Kristy Volesky to explore what it really means to prepare students for the future. Kristy challenges many of the assumptions schools still operate under, including the idea that students should spend years “practicing” without ever doing meaningful work that connects to the real world. In this conversation, we explore: • Why “finish” does not equal “ready” • How schools can connect learning to real opportunities and real community impact • Why durable skills cannot be taught once and checked off a list • The danger of locking students into career paths too early • How communities and schools can work together instead of operating in silos • Why students crave meaningful experiences, not pretend projects Kristy also shares practical examples of how schools can rethink partnerships, create authentic learning experiences, and help students build the confidence and adaptability they will need in a rapidly changing world. If you care about leadership, education, workforce development, or preparing young people for what comes next, this conversation will challenge how you think about learning. 📍 Learn more and connect with Kristy Volesky 🌐 https://valeskyconsulting.com 💼 LinkedIn → Kristy Volesky 📘 CTE Reimagined available online Subscribe for more conversations about leadership, learning, and building a future where people are truly ready for what’s next. #LeadershipRules #KristyVolesky #CTEReimagined #EducationLeadership #CareerReadiness #FutureOfEducation #DurableSkills

36 min
Apr 29

Leadership Rules with Jeff Utecht

🎧 Leadership Rules with Jeff Utecht Title: AI Can Predict. Humans Must Decide. AI is moving fast. But are we moving thoughtfully? In this episode of Leadership Rules, Nick and Marnie sit down with Jeff Utecht, educator, speaker, and author of Human Still Required, to explore what leadership looks like in a world increasingly shaped by artificial intelligence. Jeff brings a powerful reminder: the real risk is not that AI replaces us. It’s that we stop thinking for ourselves. In this conversation, we explore: • Why “cognitive surrender” is a growing concern in the age of AI • The difference between prediction and true understanding • Why judgment is the one skill AI cannot replace • How leaders should rethink effort, productivity, and performance • What it means to lead through a double transition in the workplace Jeff also shares why listening may be the most underrated leadership skill right now—and how staying curious is the key to navigating rapid change. If you care about leadership, education, or staying human in a tech-driven world, this episode will challenge how you think about both AI and your role in it. 📍 Learn more and connect with Jeff Utecht Website → https://jeffutecht.com Book → https://humanstillrequired.com Podcast → Shifting Schools Subscribe for more conversations on leadership, learning, and what it takes to thrive in a rapidly changing world. #LeadershipRules #JeffUtecht #HumanStillRequired #AILeadership #FutureOfWork #CriticalThinking #StayHuman

37 min
Apr 15

Leadership Rules with Matt Miller

🎧 Leadership Rules with Matt Miller Title: Keep the Main Thing the Main Thing AI is everywhere. So what actually matters now? In this episode of Leadership Rules, Nick and Marnie sit down with Matt Miller, educator, author of AI Literacy in Any Class, and creator of the Ditch That Textbook movement, to talk about how teaching and leadership are evolving in an AI saturated world. Matt challenges the idea that we need more tools and instead focuses on something more important. Better thinking. In this conversation, we explore: • Why “ditch the textbook” is really about ditching passive learning • How AI literacy shows up in everyday classroom moments • Why students don’t need to master the tech, but must learn to question it • The risk of going all in or all out on technology • Why critical thinking, discernment, and creativity matter more than ever Matt also shares practical ways to bring AI into the classroom without losing the human element, including how to use imperfect AI outputs to spark deeper thinking and discussion. If you care about education, leadership, or preparing students for a future we cannot fully predict, this episode will reshape how you think about both technology and teaching. 📍 Learn more and connect with Matt Miller Newsletter → https://ditch.link/join Book → AI Literacy in Any Class available on Amazon Subscribe for more conversations on leadership, learning, and what it takes to thrive in a rapidly changing world. #LeadershipRules #MattMiller #AILiteracy #EducationLeadership #CriticalThinking #DitchThatTextbook

33 min
Mar 4

Leadership Rules with Scott Martin

🎧 Leadership Rules with Scott Martin Title: Success Isn’t the Goal. Flourishing Is. What if the goal of school wasn’t just success… but flourishing? In this episode of Leadership Rules, Nick and Marnie sit down with Dr. Scott Martin, Executive Director of the Odyssey Leadership Academy, to talk about how leadership can create environments where both students and educators truly thrive. Scott believes that leadership is both art and science, and that great leaders carry a deep responsibility to care for the people in their community. He also challenges many traditional assumptions about school, including grades, agency, and what real learning looks like. In this conversation, we explore: • The difference between leadership and management • Why the leader sets the “nervous system” of an organization • How flourishing can become a school’s North Star • What happens when students are given real agency in their learning • Why resilience grows when students create learning instead of just consuming it Scott also shares how Odyssey Leadership Academy empowers students to design projects, teach classes, and even build real-world solutions like a student-built tiny home. If you care about leadership, education, and building cultures where people thrive, this episode will challenge the way you think about success. 📍 Learn more about Odyssey Leadership Academy https://OdysseyLeadershipAcademy.org Subscribe for more conversations about leadership, character, and building organizations where people flourish. #LeadershipRules #ScottMartin #EducationLeadership #HumanFlourishing #SchoolLeadership #StudentAgency

25 min
Feb 18

Leadership Rules with EJ Carrion

🎧 Leadership Rules with EJ Carrion Title: Think in Decades, Not Days What does it mean to lead in a world where students are living three lives at once? Personal life. School life. Phone life. In this high energy conversation, EJ Carrion challenges us to rethink education, leadership, and what it means to prepare young people for a future that looks nothing like the past. EJ is the co founder of Student Success Agency, a first generation college graduate, Gates Millennium Scholar, and someone who believes schools must evolve from Blockbuster to Netflix if they want to stay relevant. In this episode, we talk about: • Why the phone is not just a distraction but a door • What a “digital YMCA” could look like for students • How to build agency in young people • Why leadership is art, not science • What it means to be a pirate ship leader instead of the Navy • And why selflessness is compound interest EJ also shares three principles that guide his leadership: Think in decades instead of days Selflessness is compound interest Choose we instead of me If you care about student success, digital culture, human connection, or the future of public education, this one will stretch your thinking. 📍 Connect with EJ Carrion LinkedIn → EJ Carrion Subscribe for more conversations that challenge how we lead, learn, and live. #LeadershipRules #EJCarrion #StudentSuccess #EducationLeadership #DigitalAge #ThinkInDecades #WeInsteadOfMe

31 min
Feb 4

Leadership Rules with Dr. Doan Winkel

🎧 New Episode: Leadership Rules with Dr. Doan Winkel Title: Say No More Often What does it take to be a bold, curious, values-driven leader in today’s world of education and entrepreneurship? Dr. Doan Winkel joins Marnie and Nick for a powerful conversation about disrupting the status quo, helping students find their voice, and saying no to anything that doesn’t serve your mission. In this episode, we explore: ✅ Why "titleless" leadership might be the most powerful kind ✅ How higher ed trains students to wait for permission ✅ How AI can free teachers to focus on what really matters ✅ What tiny acts of courage do to build momentum ✅ And why authenticity is the new authority If you’ve ever wanted to lead with more clarity, curiosity, and purpose — this one’s for you. 📍 Connect with Doan Winkel LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/doanwinkel/ Substack → https://howtoteachwithai.substack.com/ 🎧 Listen, rate, and follow for more leadership conversations that blend insight, inspiration, and a little bit of rebellion. #LeadershipRules #DoanWinkel #EntrepreneurshipEducation #SayNoMoreOften #HigherEdInnovation #AuthenticLeadership #AIinEducation

27 min
12/10/2025

Leadership Rules with Anthony Conta

🎮 New Episode: Anthony Conta on Games, Growth, and Getting Unstuck Title: Make Your Next Move a Game This week on Leadership Rules, Anthony Conta brings the fun. He’s a UX designer, product strategist, professor, and the creator of Funemployed (now Bad Interviews). Oh, and he once taught chess to preschoolers. In this episode, Anthony joins Marnie and Nick to talk about the intersections of design, teaching, creativity, and career reinvention. It’s part improv show, part product jam session, and all-around inspiration. In this episode, you’ll hear: 🎲 Why career detours are often the best part of the story 🎓 How teaching forces clarity in leadership 🧠 Why UX and leadership both start with empathy 📦 How Anthony designed a hands-on UX textbook that doesn’t suck 🏁 And why “just start” might be the best advice no one takes This one’s for the curious, the creative, and the career shape-shifters. If you’ve ever wondered what’s next, Anthony makes a strong case for playing your way into the answer. 📍 Connect with Anthony Conta LinkedIn → https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthonyconta/ Medium → https://medium.com/@anthonyconta 🎲 Check out Bad Interviews (formerly Funemployed) wherever you buy your games. 📘 Grab The Art and Science of UX Design online or at your favorite bookstore. Subscribe for more conversations with rule breakers, design thinkers, and everyday leaders redefining what it means to show up with curiosity. #LeadershipRules #AnthonyConta #UXDesign #CareerPath #BadInterviews #GameDesign #CuriousLeadership

32 min

Welcome to Leadership Rules, where we believe leadership isn’t just a role—it’s a way of life. Whether you're leading a team, a community, or simply leading yourself, we’re here to help you explore the possibilities. And we are bringing guests along to share their journeys, their own leadership rules and lessons we can use along the way. Welcome to our podcast! Marnie Stockman and Nick Coniglio

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Marnie Stockman and Nick Coniglio
Years Active

2024 - 2026
Episodes

34
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