Like Whatever

Heather Jolley and Nicole Barr

Join Heather and Nicole as we discuss all things Gen-X with personal nostalgia, current events, and an advocacy for the rights of all humans.  From music to movies to television and so much more, revisit the generational trauma we all experienced as we talk about it all. Take a break from today and travel back to the long hot summer days of the 80s and 90s.  Come on slackers, f**k around and find out with us!

  1. 3d ago

    Family: Some Assembly Required

    Blood doesn’t automatically make someone safe, loving, or present and Gen X learned that lesson early. After a quick round of travel chaos, cats, and the kind of airport anxiety that ends with an $11 beer and no time to eat, we pivot into a Pride Month conversation about chosen family and why it became a lifeline for so many LGBTQ people coming of age in the 1970s through the 1990s.  We talk about what it meant to grow up with scarce queer representation, casual cruelty like “that’s so gay,” and almost no institutional protection. Without the internet, community was built through coded signals, subcultures, and the places you could finally exhale. We dig into how the AIDS crisis reshaped queer kinship in real, practical ways: caregiving networks, grief rituals, legal advocacy, and the often-underrated role lesbians played in showing up for gay men when families and systems refused.  From there, we look at how PFLAG changed the script for parents who wanted to learn how to love their kids out loud, and how nightlife and performance spaces became more than entertainment. Drag families, ballroom houses, goth scenes, and club communities created mentorship, safety, and belonging long before “found family” became mainstream language. We also share support resources, including The Trevor Project, Trans Lifeline, SAGE, PFLAG, and The Black Line.  If this hits home, subscribe, share the episode with someone in your circle, and leave a review so more people can find it. Who counts as family to you, and why? Send us an email Support the show #genx #80s #90s https://youtube.com/@likewhateverpod?si=ChGIAEDqb7H2AN0J https://www.tiktok.com/@likewhateverpod?_t=ZT-8v3hQFb73Wg&_r=1

    1h 4m
  2. Jun 5

    Sometimes The Clothes Do Not Make The Man

    One dumb joke can derail hundreds of people’s day, and one great song can define a decade. We start out in classic Like Whatever mode with best-friend banter, post-sickness exhaustion, and a headline that’s equal parts funny and infuriating: a passenger naming their in-flight Wi‑Fi device “BOMB” and forcing a transatlantic flight to turn back. From there, we dig into a question that gets uncomfortably personal: would you rather know exactly when you’re going to die, or live without the countdown?  Then we shift into our main story for Pride Month: George Michael. We trace his path from Wham’s bright MTV-era pop to the swagger and craftsmanship of Faith, including the moments that proved he wasn’t just a teen idol, but a writer, producer, and performer with serious range. We talk through the songs we can’t stop replaying, what Kissing A Fool and One More Try reveal about longing and emotional risk, and why Careless Whisper still lands like a gut punch. We also unpack the music industry side, including the Sony contract fight and the way fame can turn into a cage.  We don’t dodge the hard parts either: the 1998 arrest that the media treated like a spectacle, the pressure to “explain” his sexuality, and the broader context of LGBTQ+ visibility during the AIDS epidemic. And yes, we go there on the state of the world and why history feels like it’s rhyming. If you’ve been craving a Gen X podcast that can laugh, mourn, rage, and still love pop music, you’re in the right place.  Subscribe wherever you listen, share this with a friend who still knows every word to Faith, and leave a rating and review so more people can find us. Send us an email Support the show #genx #80s #90s https://youtube.com/@likewhateverpod?si=ChGIAEDqb7H2AN0J https://www.tiktok.com/@likewhateverpod?_t=ZT-8v3hQFb73Wg&_r=1

    1h 16m
  3. Please Don't Die

    May 29

    Please Don't Die

    You can’t forget a slogan that’s been burned into your brain since elementary school, and that’s exactly what makes America’s safety mascots so fascinating. We’re Gen X, so our childhood came with a rotating cast of animated guardians, trench coat enforcers, and neon warning faces that somehow taught us real world habits before we even understood what “public health messaging” meant.  We talk through the biggest icons and what they were designed to do: Smokey Bear and wildfire prevention, Woodsy Owl and anti pollution messaging, McGruff the Crime Dog and stranger danger era anxiety, Mr. Yuck and poison control stickers, plus Vince and Larry the Crash Test Dummies turning seatbelt safety into slapstick you still remember. We also get into the complicated side of PSA history, including how some campaigns oversimplified the problem or leaned too hard on fear, and why they still changed behavior anyway.  Along the way, we keep it very us: a quick question of the week about favorite animals, an update on feeding the crows and earning our “crow army” trust, and a few real life moments from the mail route that remind us how much people rely on small kindness. Then we zoom out to the internet era where nostalgia, memes, and social media give these old characters a second life, even as modern dangers shift toward cybercrime, mental health, and climate change.  If you grew up on classic PSAs, you’re going to have opinions. Listen, then subscribe, share the episode with a fellow Gen Xer, and leave a review so more people can find the show. Send us an email Support the show #genx #80s #90s https://youtube.com/@likewhateverpod?si=ChGIAEDqb7H2AN0J https://www.tiktok.com/@likewhateverpod?_t=ZT-8v3hQFb73Wg&_r=1

    1h 11m
  4. May 22

    Do Effing Better

    Lorena Bobbitt’s name got frozen in time as a late-night punchline, but the real story is about domestic violence, marital rape, and what happens when the public treats a survivor’s trauma like entertainment. We sit with how the 90s media machine framed the case, why so many of us absorbed the wrong takeaway, and why that kind of coverage still shapes how survivors are treated today. We also dig into the systems that fail people long before a headline happens: the ugly reality of trying to get a protective order, the legal barriers that once made marital rape nearly impossible to prosecute, and the way abusers use control, money, fear, and immigration threats to keep someone trapped. Along the way, we share concrete domestic violence resources, including hotline and shelter options, because awareness is not enough if people cannot find help quickly and safely. From there, the conversation widens into what “believe women” actually demands, how victim blaming shows up in everyday language, and why accountability can’t depend on whether a story is convenient. If you’ve ever caught yourself rethinking a joke you heard or a headline you remember, this is a chance to revisit it with clearer eyes. Subscribe for more, share this with someone who needs it, and please leave a review so more listeners can find the show. Send us an email Support the show #genx #80s #90s https://youtube.com/@likewhateverpod?si=ChGIAEDqb7H2AN0J https://www.tiktok.com/@likewhateverpod?_t=ZT-8v3hQFb73Wg&_r=1

    51 min
  5. May 15

    The Parent Trap

    Your phone rings and you instantly know something is wrong. A parent is in the hospital, nobody is giving straight answers, and you are suddenly managing medications, paperwork, and family emotions like it’s your second job. We’re Nicole and Heather, two Gen X friends trying to make sense of what it means to “raise our parents” while we’re still working, paying bills, and barely feeling like adults ourselves. We talk through the caregiving reality hitting baby boomers and their Gen X kids: longer lifespans, chronic illness, dementia fears, rehab stays, and the shocking price of assisted living and home care. We get personal about a small stroke, the frustration of stubborn parents who refuse to slow down, and the quiet roles families assign when a crisis hits. We also dig into the modern twist nobody warned us about: elder care is now tied to apps, patient portals, pharmacy kiosks, and digital systems that can leave older adults stranded unless we step in. Then we go to the hardest part: end-of-life decisions. We share what we learned about DNRs, why “pulling the plug” can still land on the family, and how guilt can stick even when you’re doing your best. We also wrestle with quality of life, dignity, and why so many of us are rethinking what we’d want for ourselves. If you’re navigating aging parents, caregiving stress, medical power of attorney, or long-distance elder care, you’ll feel seen here. Subscribe, share this with a Gen X friend, and leave a review so more caregivers can find us. Send us an email Support the show #genx #80s #90s https://youtube.com/@likewhateverpod?si=ChGIAEDqb7H2AN0J https://www.tiktok.com/@likewhateverpod?_t=ZT-8v3hQFb73Wg&_r=1

    1h 25m
  6. May 1

    In Da AARP Club We Gonna Party Like It's Your Birthday

    The red AARP envelope is one of the strangest American milestones: it’s mailed like a harmless membership perk, but it lands like a quiet announcement that time is moving faster than you want to admit. We follow that feeling straight into the real story behind AARP, and it gets way bigger than hotel discounts and a magazine in your mailbox.  We start where we always do, as Nicole and Heather catching up on the here and now, then we pivot hard into the main question: what is AARP, who built it, and why does it have so much power over aging in America? You’ll hear how Ethel Percy Andrus, an educator and advocate, was galvanized after discovering a retired teacher living in a chicken coop because retirement security and affordable health insurance didn’t exist. From there, the organization grows into a national force pushing early group health coverage for older Americans, pioneering services that predate Medicare, and shaping how the country thinks about independence and dignity after 50.  Then we trace the uncomfortable part: the money. We talk insurance partnerships, public scandals, policy fights, and the modern licensing model that brings in billions through Medicare supplement branding with UnitedHealthcare. That financial engine funds real programs and serious advocacy, but it also creates a conflict-of-interest question that won’t go away: can a group be the most trusted champion for seniors while earning massive royalties from the products seniors buy?  If you’ve ever wondered whether AARP is a lifeline, a lobbying juggernaut, a marketing machine, or all three at once, this one will stick with you. Subscribe, share this with a friend who just turned 50, and leave a review with your own red-envelope story. Send us an email Support the show #genx #80s #90s https://youtube.com/@likewhateverpod?si=ChGIAEDqb7H2AN0J https://www.tiktok.com/@likewhateverpod?_t=ZT-8v3hQFb73Wg&_r=1

    1h 23m
  7. Apr 24

    Flannel, Cigarettes, and Highway‑Volume Therapy

    Your brain wants nostalgia and your body wants a grilled cheese, so we follow both threads until they collide with a wall of fuzzy guitars. We start with the very specific Gen X comfort-food universe: cheese toast, PB&J, bologna with mayo, and the elite move of stuffing salty chips into a sandwich. It’s funny, but it’s also a real look at how “fend for yourself” childhood dinners shaped our cravings, our independence, and the way we treat food as a shortcut to safety. Then we launch a new hypotheticals segment with one big question: if reincarnation is real, what do you come back as? The answers get wildly specific, deeply lazy in the best way, and surprisingly revealing about burnout, boundaries, and the fantasy of finally being off the clock. After that, we dig into grunge and 90s alternative rock with a listener-friendly breakdown of what makes grunge sound like grunge, plus the meaning and backstory behind songs like Nirvana’s “In Bloom,” Dinosaur Jr’s “Feel The Pain,” Screaming Trees’ “Nearly Lost You,” Hole’s “Doll Parts,” Jane’s Addiction’s “Been Caught Stealin’,” and Pixies’ “Where Is My Mind.” Along the way, Nicole reads a real 1984 diary entry that proves middle-school drama and ruined eclipse days are forever. Hit play, then subscribe, share the show with a fellow Gen Xer, and leave a review. What would you choose to be in your next life? Send us an email Support the show #genx #80s #90s https://youtube.com/@likewhateverpod?si=ChGIAEDqb7H2AN0J https://www.tiktok.com/@likewhateverpod?_t=ZT-8v3hQFb73Wg&_r=1

    1h 19m
  8. Apr 17

    The Original Fake News

    A Jeopardy champion explains his favorite number using an F-shaped stick from childhood, and somehow that tiny piece of logic becomes the perfect on-ramp to a much bigger question: why do people believe what they believe. We start light with Gen X catch-up energy, then roll through Masters weekend fandom, migraine misery, and the kind of sugar craving that turns a coconut cream egg into a full-contact sport. We also compare notes on insomnia fixes, including a true crime sleep podcast that’s oddly soothing even when it still does not knock you out.  Then the gloves come off. We talk about conspiracy culture, algorithmic rage bait, and the exhausting genre of “gotcha science” takes, from space skepticism to the idea that a splashdown “should” look a certain way on camera. From there, we time-travel to the original misinformation masterclass: Orson Welles’ 1938 War Of The Worlds broadcast, the way the fake news format drove panic, and how later retellings may have exaggerated mass hysteria. The wild part is it happened again in 1968, even with disclaimers, proving that delivery and emotion can beat facts when people tune in mid-story.  We close by connecting that history to modern AI and deepfake anxiety: when ads, faces, and voices can be generated, skepticism becomes necessary, but cynicism becomes a trap. If you like smart, funny Gen X commentary on media literacy, misinformation, conspiracy theories, War Of The Worlds, and the weird nostalgia that still shapes how we think, hit subscribe, share the episode with a friend who argues with the algorithm, and leave a review with the strangest thing you’ve ever seen people believe. Send us an email Support the show #genx #80s #90s https://youtube.com/@likewhateverpod?si=ChGIAEDqb7H2AN0J https://www.tiktok.com/@likewhateverpod?_t=ZT-8v3hQFb73Wg&_r=1

    1h 5m
5
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6 Ratings

About

Join Heather and Nicole as we discuss all things Gen-X with personal nostalgia, current events, and an advocacy for the rights of all humans.  From music to movies to television and so much more, revisit the generational trauma we all experienced as we talk about it all. Take a break from today and travel back to the long hot summer days of the 80s and 90s.  Come on slackers, f**k around and find out with us!