Art of Classiness

Robin Welch and Deborah Andrews
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Welcome to The Art of Classiness, where two best friends, Robin and Deborah, talk about life, friendship, womanhood, relationships, pop culture, and all the things we are trying to figure out as adults. Some weeks we are laughing about the ridiculous things people do. Some weeks we are talking through boundaries, self-worth, family dynamics, dating, and the ways women are expected to hold everything together. And sometimes we are talking about the bigger issues that deserve more attention. This is not a podcast about having perfect manners or a perfect life. It is about trying to move through the world with self-respect, empathy, honesty, and a little humor. If you like meaningful conversations, strong opinions, funny stories, and feeling like you are hanging out with friends who get it, you are in the right place. Recurring segments include AITA, where we react to Reddit’s Am I the A*****e stories; This Episode Will Piss You Off, on the laws and systems that fail women; The TV That Raised Us; Unladylike Legends; Class or Crass; and Class Act of the Week.

  1. 18h ago

    Costumes & Consequences: Halloween Drama, Red Flags & Bad Decisions

    Halloween is supposed to be about dressing up—not finding out who someone really is. This week on The Art of Classiness, Robin and Deborah unpack four Halloween stories where the costumes are creative and the judgment is questionable. A woman’s costume disagreement takes an unexpected egg-shaped turn, an employee says winning the office costume contest cost him his job, a boyfriend’s best friend turns a couples’ costume into an unwanted group project, and a man dressed as a Breathalyzer ends up taking an actual breath test. Some are reported incidents, others are unverified Reddit accounts—but all give us plenty to discuss. We’re debating the difference between concern and control, what happens when workplace “fun” gets personal, and whether a matching costume is an innocent coincidence or a very deliberate message. Plus, in Class or Crass: does spending big on your Halloween costume entitle you to keep everyone else out all night? I'm an Egg Now – The Halloween Breakup First Prize—and a Termination Email The Pumpkin With an Agenda The Breathalyzer Needed a Breathalyzer Class Act of The Week: Katie Thurston – Breast Cancer Awareness Month Connect with us on Instagram and TikTok: @artofclassiness Share your thoughts and stories: artofclassiness@gmail.com Quick disclaimer, friends—we’re not lawyers, therapists, or investigators. We’re two people who love to share stories, opinions, and a little commentary. This episode is for entertainment and informational purposes only, not professional advice. Some stories come from news reports and others from unverified Reddit posts, so we’re discussing the accounts as shared—not claiming we know the whole story. Take care of yourselves, use your judgment, and please don’t contact or harass anyone mentioned.

  2. Oct 21

    How to Work With Your Best Friend: Lessons From 100 Episodes

    Going into business with your best friend sounds like a dream—but how do you protect the friendship when work, stress, and different expectations get involved? This week on The Art of Classiness, Robin and Deborah are celebrating 100 episodes—and the fact that they are still friends. They share what building a podcast together has taught them about boundaries, honest communication, creative disagreements, and putting friendship first. In this special anniversary episode, they go back to the beginning: what they thought they were creating, what they completely underestimated, and the “classiest blunders” they can finally laugh about now. They also unpack the friendship-first principles that have helped them keep going: dream big, protect mental health, stop keeping score, say the hard thing while it is still small, and assume good intent. It’s an honest, funny look at building something with a friend—and making sure the friendship has room to grow alongside it. Here’s to 100 episodes. Here’s to still being friends. And here’s to 100 more. Connect with us on Instagram and TikTok: @artofclassiness Share your favorite AOC moment—or what you want from the next 100 episodes: artofclassiness@gmail.com Quick disclaimer, friends—we are not doctors, lawyers, or mental-health professionals, just two people who love to share ideas and experiences. This podcast is for fun and informational purposes only. It's not meant to replace professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. If you have questions about your health, definitely reach out to your doctor or a qualified health professional. Take care of yourselves and use what feels right for you.

  3. Oct 14

    This Episode Will Piss You Off: Menopause, Abortion Bans, and the Cost of Not Listening

    Menopause is about so much more than hot flashes, and “that is just aging” is not an acceptable answer. In another This Episode Will Piss You Off, Robin and Deborah talk about the things women are too often expected to endure quietly. Deborah unpacks menopause and the fact that declining estrogen can affect far more than hot flashes. We talk about why women are not given better information about their bodies, why female sexual health remains under-discussed, and why “that is just aging” is not an acceptable answer. Robin explores abortion bans and pregnancy emergencies through the stories of women with wanted pregnancies who needed urgent medical care when things went wrong. This episode includes discussion of menopause, painful sex, pregnancy loss, sepsis, abortion restrictions, and maternal death. Please take care of yourself while listening. Sources: Effects of pelvic floor muscle training on sexual function of postmenopausal women ACOG Menopause Society Women’s Health Initiative (WHI) FDA Approves Labeling Changes to Menopausal Hormone Therapy Products DISPARITIES IN FUNDING BETWEEN MALE AND FEMALE SEXUAL FUNCTION-RELATED DISORDERS National Network of Abortion Funds KFF Abortion in the U.S. Reproductive Freedom for All Say Their Names: The Women Who Died After Being Denied Emergency Abortion Care A Pregnant Teenager Died After Trying to Get Care in Three Visits to Texas Emergency Rooms Woman said she went into sepsis before she could get lifesaving abortion care in Texas Life of the Mother: How Abortion Bans Lead to Preventable Deaths Texas Medical Board Sanctions Three Doctors for Delayed Care That Led to the Deaths of Two Pregnant Women Class Act of the Week: Jay Filmore: Pink Pill RX Quick disclaimer, friends—we are not doctors, lawyers, or mental-health professionals, just two people who love to share ideas and experiences. This podcast is for fun and informational purposes only. It's not meant to replace professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. If you have questions about your health, definitely reach out to your doctor or a qualified health professional. Take care of yourselves and use what feels right for you.

  4. Oct 7

    5 Types of Mental Health Days: What Do You Actually Need?

    Not every mental health day looks the same. Sometimes you need to sleep, sometimes you need to get out of your own head, and sometimes you need to be around someone who makes you feel like yourself again. In this episode, we’re breaking down five different kinds of mental health days: I’m Drained, I’m Overwhelmed, I’m Hurting, I Need Connection, and I’m at a Crossroads. We talk about recognizing what you actually need, giving yourself permission to step back, and knowing the difference between rest, distraction, connection, and avoidance. Plus, we tackle a Class or Crass scenario about whether it’s fair to feel resentful when someone else takes a mental health day while you’re drowning in your own responsibilities. So take what you need from this episode. Rest, connection, perspective, or permission to do a little less for a day. Connect with us on Instagram and TikTok: @artofclassiness Send us your own stories: artofclassiness@gmail.com Quick disclaimer, friends—we are not doctors, lawyers, or mental-health professionals, just two people who love to share ideas and experiences. This podcast is for fun and informational purposes only. It's not meant to replace professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. If you have questions about your health, definitely reach out to your doctor or a qualified health professional. Take care of yourselves and use what feels right for you.

  5. Sep 30

    Social Obligations We’re Too Old to Pretend We Enjoy

    Brunch lines, baby showers, music festivals, and any event requiring a group Venmo: Robin and Deborah are getting honest about the things they are officially too old to pretend they enjoy. Not because they are against fun. Not because they want to stay home forever. And definitely not because anyone needs permission to enjoy brunch, a baby shower, a music festival, or a chaotic group chat. But at a certain point, adulthood teaches you that being “easygoing” does not have to mean ignoring your own preferences, spending money you do not want to spend, standing in lines you do not want to stand in, or forcing yourself through social rituals that leave you more depleted than connected. Along the way, we ask: Is saying no to an invitation selfish—or is it respecting your own time? When does an “experience” become a logistical nightmare? What is still worth a little inconvenience? And which millennial staples are we keeping, retiring, or defending forever? Connect with us on Instagram and TikTok: @artofclassiness Send us your own “too old to pretend” list: artofclassiness@gmail.com Quick disclaimer, friends—we are not doctors, lawyers, or mental-health professionals, just two people who love to share ideas and experiences. This podcast is for fun and informational purposes only. It's not meant to replace professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. If you have questions about your health, definitely reach out to your doctor or a qualified health professional. Take care of yourselves and use what feels right for you.

  6. Sep 16

    AITA: Grief Support, Postpartum Boundaries & Entitled Friends

    This week on The Art of Classiness, Robin and Deborah are back in the AITA universe to talk grief, family boundaries, entitlement, and the difference between asking for support and expecting access. A husband wants to leave for a hockey game after his wife’s grandmother dies. A new mom faces family drama over who gets to meet her baby first. A mother-in-law refuses to hire her daughter-in-law at the family business, and a cruise guest wants an amazing deal—without following the rules that come with it. When does family become entitled? When is “being the bigger person” just another way of asking someone to ignore their own needs? And how do you set a boundary without becoming the villain in someone else’s story? CHAPTERS: 00:00 Intro 03:11 Husband leaves for hockey after Grandma dies 15:12 In-laws meet the baby before my brother 25:23 Uninviting the cheap cruise friend 34:31 Not hiring my "helpless" DIL 43:04 Crasshole of the Week: Homemade Haven 48:49 Class or Crass STORIES: AITA for expecting my husband to stay with me after my grandmother died? AITAH for letting my in-laws meet my baby before my brother did? AITA for not hiring my DIL becuase she is helpless AITA for uninviting my friend from a vacation because she wanted to break rules and be cheap? Connect with us on Instagram and TikTok: @artofclassiness Share your stories, hot takes, and verdicts: artofclassiness@gmail.com Quick disclaimer, friends—we are not doctors, lawyers, or mental-health professionals, just two people who love to share ideas and experiences. This podcast is for fun and informational purposes only. It's not meant to replace professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. If you have questions about your health, definitely reach out to your doctor or a qualified health professional. Take care of yourselves and use what feels right for you.

  7. Sep 9

    The History of Being “Too Much”: Gossip, Hysteria, Pink & Red Lipstick

    Gossip, hysteria, the color pink, and red lipstick seem totally unrelated—until you trace how each one became tied to women, femininity, and the endless cultural pressure not to be “too much.” Robin and Deborah are going historical. First, we get into the surprising origins of gossip: a word that once referred to close, trusted companions before it became shorthand for petty, malicious, feminine talk. Then we unpack hysteria, the ancient medical idea that women’s bodies and emotions made them unstable, and why the language of “dramatic,” “hormonal,” and “too sensitive” still hits differently today. We also look at how pink became a gender rule rather than just a color, why the pink-for-girls/blue-for-boys divide was never as natural or universal as we were taught, and how consumer culture helped turn color into a personality category. Finally, we trace the long, complicated history of red lipstick—from ancient pigments and moral panic to glamour, suffrage-era visibility, confidence, rebellion, and the modern question of why one color on a woman’s mouth can still make people have opinions. Join us for a conversation about history, womanhood, cultural rules, and all the weird things society decided women should be judged for. NPR: ‘Gossip’ had godly origins. Here’s how it gained its sinful reputation Connect with us on Instagram and TikTok: @artofclassiness Share your thoughts and stories: artofclassiness@gmail.com Quick disclaimer, friends—we are not doctors, lawyers, or mental-health professionals, just two people who love to share ideas and experiences. This podcast is for fun and informational purposes only. It's not meant to replace professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. If you have questions about your health, definitely reach out to your doctor or a qualified health professional. Take care of yourselves and use what feels right for you.

  8. Sep 2

    How to Create Distance in a Friendship Without Ending It

    Not every friendship needs a dramatic breakup. Sometimes, someone simply needs less access. This week on The Art of Classiness, Robin and Deborah are talking friendship circles: who gets a front-row seat to your life, who gets the group-chat version of you, and when someone may need to move from your inner circle to the outer one. They unpack the signs that a friendship has become unbalanced, draining, untrustworthy, or held together by one person doing all the work. They also share practical ways to create distance without becoming cold: changing the frequency, depth, or setting of the relationship; shifting from one-on-one time to group hangs; and protecting your time, energy, and vulnerability without punishing anyone. Because friendship is not all-or-nothing. You can care about someone and still decide they no longer get the closest version of you. Class Act of the Week: Reina Condos Circle of Friends Worksheet Connect with us on Instagram and TikTok: @artofclassiness Share your thoughts and stories: artofclassiness@gmail.com Quick disclaimer, friends—we are not doctors, lawyers, or mental-health professionals, just two people who love to share ideas and experiences. This podcast is for fun and informational purposes only. It's not meant to replace professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. If you have questions about your health, definitely reach out to your doctor or a qualified health professional. Take care of yourselves and use what feels right for you..

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Welcome to The Art of Classiness, where two best friends, Robin and Deborah, talk about life, friendship, womanhood, relationships, pop culture, and all the things we are trying to figure out as adults. Some weeks we are laughing about the ridiculous things people do. Some weeks we are talking through boundaries, self-worth, family dynamics, dating, and the ways women are expected to hold everything together. And sometimes we are talking about the bigger issues that deserve more attention. This is not a podcast about having perfect manners or a perfect life. It is about trying to move through the world with self-respect, empathy, honesty, and a little humor. If you like meaningful conversations, strong opinions, funny stories, and feeling like you are hanging out with friends who get it, you are in the right place. Recurring segments include AITA, where we react to Reddit’s Am I the A*****e stories; This Episode Will Piss You Off, on the laws and systems that fail women; The TV That Raised Us; Unladylike Legends; Class or Crass; and Class Act of the Week.

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  • Creator
    Robin Welch and Deborah Andrews
  • Years Active
    2024 - 2026
  • Episodes
    102
  • Rating
    Explicit
  • Copyright
    © 2026 Robin Welch and Deborah Andrews