In this episode of Leading for Deeper Learning with Ulster BOCES, Dr. Jonah Schenker sits down with four remarkable students from across Ulster BOCES Career Pathways Programs and the Center for Innovative Teaching & Learning to explore a question at the heart of educational transformation: What should the future of schools look like? Joining the discussion are: Matthew Reilly, Center for Innovative Teaching & Learning at Port Ewen Madison Liebel, Hudson Valley Pathways Academy Nisean Abney, Career Academies at iPark 87 Fateen Akbar, Center for Innovative Teaching & Learning at Port Ewen As New York continues its work through NY Inspires and the development of learner-centered systems, these students offer a powerful reminder that meaningful change begins by elevating student voice. Their insights challenge educators, leaders, and communities to rethink long-held assumptions about learning, assessment, engagement, and success. Throughout the conversation, students describe the experiences that matter most to them—authentic learning, real-world connections, community engagement, hands-on opportunities, and pathways that help them discover purpose and possibility. They speak candidly about motivation, belonging, communication, flexibility, and the importance of creating schools where students can take risks, learn from failure, and grow. These themes echo many of the priorities that are at the center of deeper learning and New York's ongoing transformation efforts. This episode is a reminder that students are not simply recipients of educational change—they are essential partners in designing it. In this episode: 00:00 – Why Student Voice Matters More Than Ever Dr. Jonah Schenker introduces four student leaders and explores why listening to learners is essential as schools rethink readiness, engagement, and the future of education. 02:13 – What Makes Learning Actually Stick? Students share the experiences that have had the greatest impact on their growth—from hands-on projects and career pathways to authentic learning beyond the classroom. 07:05 – The Power of Real-World Learning Why internships, community partnerships, CTE programs, and applied learning opportunities help students connect school to purpose, passion, and future careers. 12:15 – Are Schools Preparing Students for the Real World? A candid discussion about what schools do well, where they fall short, and the skills students believe matter most after graduation. 18:34 – Belonging, Relationships, and Student Success Students reflect on the teachers, mentors, and environments that helped them feel seen, supported, and motivated to succeed. 23:48 – Why Failure Is One of the Best Teachers From robotics competitions to technical training, students discuss resilience, risk-taking, and how learning from mistakes builds confidence and growth. 30:20 – If Students Designed School... What would school look like if students had a seat at the design table? The group shares ideas for creating more relevant, engaging, and flexible learning experiences. 35:48 – What Adults Need to Hear from Students The panel offers direct advice to educators and leaders about communication, trust, motivation, and creating learning environments where all students can thrive. 39:46 – The Future of School Is Student-Centered The episode closes with powerful reflections on what students hope educators, policymakers, and communities will prioritize as they shape the future of learning. https://www.ulsterboces.org/about-us/news-communications/podcast
