Policy People

UC3P

Policy People is the newest podcast from the University of Chicago Public Policy Podcast Network (UC3P). In this series, we will be interviewing current MPP and MSCAPP students on their previous experiences, their background, and why and how they ended up in Harris! There are so many stories waiting to be unfolded, and we want you to be part of it!

  1. 3d ago

    How to Break into and Build a Career in Local Government with Elliot Karl | S2E9

    In this episode of The Policy People, we are joined by Elliot Gary Karl (Class of 2020), a first-generation college graduate whose decade-long career in the public sector spans from the West Coast to the Midwest. Elliot shares his unintentional path from grassroots organizing and affordable housing advocacy in California to returning to his hometown of Chicago. Today, he serves as the Assistant Deputy Bureau Chief of Operations and Administration for Cook County's Bureau of Economic Development. During our conversation, we explored what it truly means to build a career as a "public servant". Elliot provides a masterclass on what the day-to-day reality of local government looks like, what to expect, and how to effectively prepare for it. This is a must-listen for those who are aspiring to be public servants or are curious about it.  Chapters: 00:00:00 - Intro 00:03:03 - First-Gen College & Early Career Path & '5-to-9' 00:12:19 - Why Grad School 00:16:40 - The UChicago Experience & What Education Means to Elliot 00:25:24 - Student Org: Harris Community Action 00:31:00 - How to Prepare for a Career in Local Government 00:46:34 - How a Non-Chicagoan Enters Chicago Government (or Any Local Government) 00:51:18 - Elliot's Current Job at Cook County 01:04:41 - Elliot's Lifetime Career Goals & Thoughts on Leadership 01:16:04 - What Type of Person is a Great Fit for the Public Sector 01:27:01 - One Last Share from Elliot

    1h 39m
  2. May 10

    Public Service in Chicago with Emily Metz | S2E8

    In this episode of The Policy People, we are joined by Emily Metz (Class of 2010), a lifelong Chicagoan who has dedicated her professional life to fighting inequity and reimagining public education and policy. While she spent years embedded in education, she recently transitioned into broad systems change and philanthropy at the Michael Reese Health Trust. We cover everything from how having two college-educated parents contrasted with the stark socioeconomic realities of her extended family, to how an undergraduate English major found her way to Harris, and the profound questions she uses to guide her career. In this episode, you will hear:  • The Roots of Mobility: How seeing the direct link between educational attainment and life outcomes among her aunts and uncles—ranging from entering the top 1% to experiencing chronic homelessness—fueled her drive to improve foundational stability for all Chicagoans. • The Path to Harris: Why she chose to apply exclusively to the University of Chicago, realizing during a Ralph Nader-founded public interest fellowship that a graduate degree was the key to unlocking a civic career in her hometown. • Navigating the Civic Ecosystem: Emily's journey through different levels of public service, exploring why national government contracts felt disconnected, the chaotic but direct impact of working inside a school district, and how flexible philanthropic funding supercharges local research. • The Missing Metric in Policy: Why rigorous quantitative data and econometric models aren't enough, and why understanding history, coalition building, and "messy human dynamics" is crucial for enacting real-world change. • Sacrifice vs. Suffering: Honest advice for new graduates on how to protect their well-being in social justice work, and how to know if a tough job is a worthwhile slog or just a path to burnout. This episode is a masterclass for anyone interested in local government, educational equity, or the realities of translating academic evidence into tangible community impact.

    1h 28m

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Policy People is the newest podcast from the University of Chicago Public Policy Podcast Network (UC3P). In this series, we will be interviewing current MPP and MSCAPP students on their previous experiences, their background, and why and how they ended up in Harris! There are so many stories waiting to be unfolded, and we want you to be part of it!