Two Plus Two: The Swinger Podcast for Couples

Zack, Josie, Brad, Brittany
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Step into a candid, fun, and enlightening conversation with two full-swap couples as they share intimate details about their journey as swingers. Raw and vulnerable, Josie, Zack, Brad and Brittany share their own insecurities, boundaries, and relationship dynamics. They offer practical tips for connecting with others and understanding lifestyle etiquette. This podcast is designed to feel like a close, candid chat among friends. With playful storytelling and real-life advice, it promises to be both entertaining and informative for anyone curious about the swinging lifestyle.

  1. 2D AGO

    Ep 56: Exclusivity with Another Couple: Love, Boundaries, and Commitment

    In this episode, Zack and Josie sit down with Roger and Jessica, a lifestyle couple whose journey has taken an unexpected turn — into an exclusive, emotionally connected relationship with another couple. After two years in the lifestyle, what began as group dates evolved into alternating date nights, overnight visits, out-of-state trips, and eventually a shared commitment they now describe as having a “boyfriend” and “girlfriend.” Roger and Jessica share how they’ve navigated parenting schedules, deepening emotional bonds, New Relationship Energy, and the intentional work they’ve done in counseling to build the tools needed for success. Even as their connection with their partner couple grows, they remain grounded in their marriage as their primary commitment — while also acknowledging that they genuinely love their boyfriend and girlfriend. We also explore how they define this relationship: Is it poly? Is it still “just” the lifestyle? Or is it something in-between? Roger and Jessica talk openly about the labels that fit — and the ones that don’t — as they shape a relationship model that feels authentic to them. With their own history of a four-way relationship that ended in divorce, Zack and Josie ask the tough questions: Is this beautiful connection also dangerous territory? What boundaries, agreements, and self-awareness does it take to make a relationship like this work? Join us as we unpack the practical, emotional, and relational realities of choosing exclusivity inside the lifestyle. JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (00:00:00) It all started with a sexy dream (00:02:27) Lifestyle adjacent (00:03:15) Conversation and open communication (00:03:41) We had no idea what we were doing (00:05:42) We had a few FWB’s for about a year (00:07:44) We got into an exclusive relationship (00:10:19) Isn’t being exclusive dangerous territory? (00:14:20) Our deliberate approach (00:15:19) The love we feel for different people is different than the love we feel for each other (00:18:39) Communication, connection and boundaries (00:20:18) Play parameters (00:22:52) We are able to disconnect from daily life with our play partners (00:25:33) An open marriage…not poly (00:27:59) It isn’t always easy (00:29:25) We share the big things with each other, but not every detail (00:31:27) Insecurities and compersion (00:33:50) We experience things differently because it’s a different dynamic (00:34:35) Loving vs being in love (00:37:05) Staying focused on our mutual goals (00:39:13) Vulnerability creates closeness and excitement (00:40:52) An exclusive relationship solves some of the challenges of the lifestyle (00:42:47) Navigating lifestyle events in an exclusive relationship (00:44:58) One-on-one dates (00:45:36) Protecting our couple time and our family time (00:47:17) One-on-one overnights and travel with play partners (00:48:39) The more we do it the more comfortable it becomes (00:50:36) Overnights were initially terrifying (00:52:47) The kids are young and are unaware (00:58:35) Boyfriend / girlfriend titles   We'd love to connect with you! Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle! Available on the App Store and on Google Play. INVITE CODE: 2plus2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany. Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at: ⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com

    1h 2m

  2. JAN 7

    Ep 55: Midlife in the Lifestyle: Freedom, Urgency, and Identity

    As we get older, our bodies, our priorities, and even the way we experience the lifestyle begin to shift. In this episode, all four hosts are back at the table to talk honestly about aging, self-image, and how time changes our perspective on play, connection, and identity. Brad and Josie — both in their 50s — share what it feels like to realize they’re past the halfway point in life, while Brittany reflects on approaching that milestone, and Zack talks about only recently turning 40. Together, we ask: Is 50 really a turning point? When do you start to feel your mortality… or your freedom? And is the lifestyle a young person’s game, or does age bring its own kind of power? We explore body confidence, the “I don’t give a f***” stage of life, the pressure some of us feel to “live bigger now” while we still can, and whether urgency, opportunity, and time shape our choices. We also talk about the strengths that come with age — experience, perspective, emotional maturity, and success — and how those benefits can sometimes feel at odds with the expectations of the lifestyle. Of course, we keep it real with plenty of humor too… including joking about when we finally get to “give up,” skip the gym, eat whatever we want, and go off the rails. 😉 We wrap with a reminder that pleasure, connection, and adventure don’t expire — and that the lifestyle can be meaningful, fun, and fulfilling at any age. JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (00:00:00) Insecurities about age (00:05:09) Perception of age is changing (00:09:25) The lifestyle is a young person’s game (00:10:35) You’re never too old to have sex (00:11:38) Times have changed and society is shifting (00:15:33) Age bursts (00:20:39) At what age will we no longer be attractive to younger people (00:23:16) Not disclosing your age (00:25:40) Carpe diem (00:29:16) Aging can feel limiting (00:31:58) Aging is also a blessing (00:33:45) It’s a 50’s thing (00:35:10) I don’t want the clock to run out (00:37:17) I thought the lifestyle is a short term project (00:39:54) Times have changed and so has the lifestyle (00:43:48) Stages and cycles of the lifestyle (00:45:24) Age plays into sexual liberation (00:48:38) Our perspectives changed in less than an hour (00:51:13) My journey isn’t about age although aging is part of the journey (00:52:34) The age when you stop giving a f**k (00:55:24) Not giving a f**k   We'd love to connect with you! Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle! Available on the App Store and on Google Play. INVITE CODE: 2plus2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany. Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at: ⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com ⁠ RESOURCES The Subtle Art of Not Giving a Fuck by Mark Manson

    1 hr

  3. 12/31/2025

    Ep 54: Behind the Mic 2025: Unfiltered, Uncensored, Unzipped

    To celebrate our first full year of Two Plus Two, we’re pulling back the curtain and sharing some of our favorite private conversations, outrageous stories, and unforgettable play moments. In this milestone episode, Zack and Josie revisit a fun, sexy, weird, and wonderfully awkward party encounter — and yes, they spill all the dirty details. Your Two Plus Two crew also has some fun shaking up the opener, including outtakes from Brad’s dramatic “sexy vampires” intro. We chat about a single vanilla guy who proudly declared himself a slut — and somehow ended up sharing his opinions on vaginas, STDs, and his vast collection of experiences. Zack and Josie also recount a hot play session with a pair of Two Plus Two listeners, and we open up about some of our own intimate moments with our partners along the way. From joking about handing out goodie bags at our orgies, to the guys teasing us about finishing their sentences, the conversation veers between playful, personal, and downright hilarious. Brad and Brittany share a wild lifestyle weekend story where Brittany’s insatiable sex drive turned Brad into a human Sybian — even after he tucked her into bed… more than once. We also laugh about how vanillas see swingers in public (and what happens when we let them in on the secret), and we dive into a conversation about Zack’s first wife being Mormon — which leads us into the curious world of “soaking” and “docking.” It’s raw, real, sexy, nostalgic, and the perfect way to celebrate one amazing year of stories, laughter, connection, and community. JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (00:00:00) An intro mash up (00:01:02) The play by play of an interesting play experience (00:11:39) Outtakes and fun banter  (00:12:39) Shweddy Balls and Sexy Vampires (00:14:10) Stinky vaginas and drippy penises (00:17:04) Mismatched experiences and revelations (00:19:39) A fun play experience with two of our listeners (00:25:17) I found a new button!  (00:28:10) Fun marital banter (00:29:09) Orgy swag and vampire tattoos (00:29:49) Marital communication and ‘loss of words’ (00:31:47) Intro change-up outtakes (00:34:20) Sugar lips…stroke my ego…stay humble (00:37:53) Body shaming,  judgment, confidence and insecurity (00:40:50) Dressing for your bodytype (00:42:52) Podcast ‘celebrities’ (00:46:27) FOMO and dirty martinis (00:48:06) She was like a little kid who wouldn’t stay in bed (00:50:26) She shredded a guitar on her clit (00:52:19) I had my dick flicked (00:55:01) Phone a friend (00:55:25) Those people are so friendly! (00:59:37) Soaking and docking (01:03:29) Ex bashing (01:06:34) We evolve and get better   (01:09:01) Zack’s microphone and Josie’s music box (01:10:41) Josie’s karaoke machine (01:11:25) A sneaky lube run  (01:13:02) A Mexican Special (01:14:12) Going down with Two Plus Two with Elevated Fun (01:16:10) Josie’s elevator impression   We'd love to connect with you! Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle! Available on the App Store and on Google Play. INVITE CODE: 2plus2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany. Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at: ⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com

    1h 18m

  4. 12/24/2025

    Ep 53: To Play or Not to Play: When and How to Shift Out of Neutral

    Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany sit down to tackle a question nearly every lifestyle couple has wrestled with: how many dates does it really take to get to a “yes”? They talk through what it’s like meeting a couple for the first time—those moments when the chemistry is instant and the energy exchange makes the decision easy, and the more complicated scenarios where one partner is a clear “yes” while the other sits in a frustrating gray area of “neutral.” The hosts unpack what “neutral” really means, how to shift out of it with intention, and how to decide whether to move forward—or confidently say no. The conversation dives deep into the risks of playing when one partner is still neutral. What happens if the experience doesn’t go well? Could it lead to regret, resentment, or hesitation in future situations? They explore how neutral energy can impact not just the couple, but everyone involved in a play dynamic, and why “neutral” often isn’t neutral at all—it’s a need for more information, clarity, or context. They also challenge the idea that more dates always lead to better outcomes, discussing how too much time or too many vanilla-setting meetups can actually shift desire toward a “no.” The hosts share their frustrations with couples who need multiple dates before making a decision and contrast that with how lifestyle vacations—like the Bliss Cruise—can completely change expectations, timelines, and energy. If you’ve ever struggled with mismatched interest levels, decision fatigue, or figuring out when to lean in versus walk away, this episode offers honest insight, thoughtful reflection, and plenty of “we’ve been there” moments. JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (00:00:00) Too much ‘information’ (00:04:19) Making decisions and finding common ground (00:10:17) Saying ‘yes’ when one partner is neutral (00:11:21) Sometimes one partner takes the lead (00:15:52) Gauging and communicating interest can be challenging (00:20:46) We are working on being more decisive and communicative (00:23:59) Determining the time and effort to invest in a couple (00:30:40) Relationships that stay vanilla too long can become awkward (00:32:30) Changing the context of a second meeting can be helpful (00:33:22) Situations where one partner is less interested than the other (00:36:00) Communicating during a session if one partner is not having fun (00:38:22) Lifestyle travel may change expectations (00:40:47) LS travel environments can also act as accelerant (00:44:13) European lifestyle clubs may inhibit verbal connection (00:48:44) Where are we at with this couple….really? (00:53:45) When the Two Plus Two Crew met for the first time (00:55:46) Shifting out of neutral We'd love to connect with you! Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle! Available on the App Store and on Google Play. INVITE CODE: 2plus2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany. Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at: mailto: ⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠

    58 min

  5. 12/17/2025

    Ep 52: Bliss Cruise Control: Prepping for a Sexy Week at Sea

    Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany are back and gearing up for one of the biggest lifestyle trips of the year: the upcoming Bliss Cruise on Radiance of the Seas this February. From liberation and sexploration to planning, packing, and prepping, this episode dives into everything we’re excited about (and a few things we’re bracing for). We talk about the tighter February timeline, Zack’s ongoing love–hate relationship with Bliss, and what made our second cruise feel completely different from our first. We’re leveling up this year—starting with a pre-cruise stop at Trapeze and a plan to wander elevators, mics in hand, to capture spontaneous conversations with fellow cruisers. We share why our Bliss experience keeps getting better, how the Bliss app has become a total game-changer, and why fitting everything into one trip might be our biggest challenge yet. We also look ahead to Bliss’ 10th anniversary in 2026, review the theme nights for February, and remind everyone (again!) to take photos—because cover stories need photographic proof. If you’re heading on a Bliss Cruise soon—or just curious what these trips are really like—this episode offers excitement, insight, and a few laughs along the way. JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (00:00:00) Liberation, sexploration and letting go (00:04:05) A more condensed timeline in February (00:04:33) Zack’s love hate relationship (00:06:20) What was different from about our second Bliss vs our first (00:07:20) We plan to hang out in elevators and record conversations with people (00:08:19) Our experience gets better every time (00:10:45) This year we’re going to Trapeze before the cruise (00:15:18) The Bliss app is a game changer! (00:18:04) Fitting it all in may be challenging (00:19:52) Bliss’ 10th Anniversary November 2026 (00:20:25) Theme Nights for Radiance Feb 2026 (00:24:52) Remember to take photos! (00:25:35) Cover stories and photographic proof (00:31:35) What we’re looking forward to most (00:35:53) Taking back control and focusing on each other and our experience (00:38:16) Being inward focused creates energy that others are drawn to (00:40:59) We want to experience new things (00:43:54) STI testing and Mycoplasma genitalium (00:45:47) Other good cruise preparation tips (00:47:01) Re-entry is challenging Clinical Immunity 10 Day Intensive We'd love to connect with you! Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle! Available on the App Store and on Google Play. INVITE CODE: 2plus2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany. Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at: mailto: ⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com

    50 min

  6. 12/10/2025

    Ep 51: Highs and Lows of Swinging: Comparisons, Expectations, and Evolution

    Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany are back together for a candid and relatable conversation about something nearly every lifestyle couple experiences: the natural ebb and flow of connection, opportunity, and energy in the lifestyle. Some seasons feel packed with parties, meetups, new couples, and constant social obligations. Other times, it seems no one is available, nothing’s happening, and you’re left wondering if the spark moved on without you. And if you’ve ever found yourself comparing your quiet moments to your friends’ busy ones, you’re definitely not alone. They explore how their own journeys have evolved, and how personal circumstances can directly shape your lifestyle experiences. Zack and Josie share how they’re on a journey to rediscover their vibe, while Brad and Brittany talk about meeting new couples through mutual friends and finding fresh chemistry in unexpected places. This episode is an invitation to reflect, laugh, relate, and maybe even rethink your own lifestyle rhythm. Whether you’re in a hot streak, a lull, or somewhere in between, you’ll find pieces of your journey in this conversation—and maybe a little inspiration for what comes next. JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (00:00:00) What qualifies as a lull (00:05:20) Questioning ourselves when we don’t connect with anyone (00:09:00) Consciously making the choice to relax and relieve the pressure (00:14:11) Zack and Josie are reevaluating the lifestyle (00:16:54) Brittany just wants to let go while Brad wants more sexual experiences (00:19:44) The definition of the lull is the repeat pattern of situations that fall flat  (00:21:25) Choosing the situations where you have the most ‘success’ and avoiding others (00:23:56) Reflecting on what’s happened and what’s changed since our last ‘roll’ (00:26:32) Friends with benefits and familiarity (00:31:04) The aha moment….balancing familiarity with newness (00:32:43) Preferences evolve just like everything else in the lifestyle (00:34:22) Comparing is human nature (00:37:53) Comparing your real life to everyone else’s highlight reels (00:40:16) Your life also impacts the lifestyle (00:44:16) Is there a wrong way to ‘do’ the lifestyle (00:46:09) What’s it all for and what’s next? (00:47:54) We hit our ceiling but have enjoyed meeting friends of friends (00:50:56) There are only two things we want in this lifestyle (00:51:46) Pressure or lack of pressure during a roll vs a lull (00:55:18) Balancing familiarity and newness (00:56:35) Parting advice We'd love to connect with you! Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle! Available on the App Store and on Google Play. INVITE CODE: 2plus2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany. Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at: mailto: ⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com

    59 min

  7. 12/03/2025

    Ep 50: Not Just the Bull: A Single Male’s Perspective on Connection and Complexity

    In this episode, hosts Zack, Josie, and Brad sit down with Ferdinand the bull, to explore the real, often-unspoken complexities of being a single male navigating ENM spaces. Ferdinand shares how he first entered the lifestyle at the encouragement of his then-wife, who never chose to participate herself. Now eight years, a divorce, and countless connections later, he finds himself at a crossroads: dating in the vanilla world while weighing whether he can—or should—remain in the lifestyle community he’s grown so deeply attached to. The hosts dig into the nuanced decisions single men face, including when to disclose lifestyle involvement to vanilla partners, and the unique blend of freedom, connection, and emotional intelligence that strong bulls cultivate. Ferdinand opens up about both the highs and the lows: the excitement of partnered experiences, the intimacy he builds with couples, and the loneliness being a bull can create. Together, they unpack the dynamics between bulls and couples, the financial realities of being a single male in lifestyle spaces, and the stereotypes that make forming genuine connections harder than most people realize. Ferdinand also offers grounded, experience-based advice for single men curious about entering the lifestyle—highlighting why assertiveness paired with respect is essential, and why aggression never works. This episode offers an honest look at what single men gain from the lifestyle that traditional dating can’t provide, and what it truly costs, emotionally and financially, to walk this path. JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (00:00:00) Good luck Chuck (00:02:00) How I found the lifestyle (00:04:46) Friends with benefits (00:06:09) Being a bull in the lifestyle can be lonely (00:07:45) Evolving in the lifestyle over the last 8 years (00:08:50) Navigating the LS can be difficult and rejection is common (00:09:36) I shared my sexual experiences with my wife (00:10:17) Dating vanillas while you’re in the lifestyle (00:13:03) Benefits and drawbacks of being a bull (00:14:24) Bringing a new partner into the lifestyle (00:16:25) Favorite lifestyle events or activities (00:19:01) Advice for single males entering the lifestyle (00:22:33) The bull / couple dynamics (00:24:41) Lifestyle scenarios (00:29:39) Assumptions people make about bulls (00:33:07) What singles get out of the lifestyle (00:34:18) Addressing sexual orientation (00:36:05) I’m a good first experience for couples (00:37:02) Catching feelings (00:38:10) Being a bull is expensive (00:39:01) How they begin and how I conduct myself in play sessions (00:40:01) Communication and emotional intelligence (00:43:59) A good learning experience We'd love to connect with you! Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle! Available on the App Store and on Google Play. INVITE CODE: 2plus2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany. Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at: ⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠

    48 min

  8. 11/26/2025

    Ep 49: The Lifestyle Flake Factor: Ghosting, Excuses, and Awkward Truths

    In this week’s episode, hosts Zack, Josie, Brad, and Brittany dive into one of the most universally frustrating parts of the lifestyle: communication… or the lack of it. From last-minute confirmations that never come to couples who keep others dangling “just in case,” the crew unpacks the subtle (and not-so-subtle) ways poor communication can waste time, strain friendships, and complicate connections. They explore why it feels so disrespectful when couples make plans but go silent when it’s time to confirm, and how annoying it is when someone breaks a commitment and then disappears—only to ask you to suggest a new time and never respond. The hosts also share their collective experience with a notoriously flaky couple whose repeated excuses have become a running theme in their local community. The conversation moves into whether people owe each other explanations when interest fades, or whether being honest only invites unnecessary drama. They also examine the sting of being ghosted by close friends, and the gray area where “ghosting” isn’t so clear—especially in a dynamic with multiple people, mismatched levels of interest, or partners who aren’t on the same page. Ultimately, the group acknowledges what everyone secretly knows: the lifestyle is awkward, interest is complicated, and communication between couples is hard. But understanding how these behaviors affect others—and recognizing the subjectivity of what counts as ghosting—can make navigating it all just a little easier. JOIN US in 2026 on the Bliss Cruise in February or at Naughty Nawlins and support our podcast by booking your ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠travel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ or purchasing your lifestyle products using our affiliate links. Please do us a favor and visit ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twoplustwopodcast.com/resources/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ (00:00:00) The sizzle fizzle (00:02:23) The times when we’ve flaked or ghosted (00:04:02) Communication is great….then crickets! (00:05:55) Ranting about coordinating with people who are traveling (00:14:00) Speculating on why people may flake or ghost (00:16:34) Letting people know you’re not interested so they don’t wonder (00:17:42) A local couple with a reputation for expressing interest and not following through (00:22:24) The local lifestyle scene (00:26:38) Another rant about a gh  osting scenario (00:29:12) Being honest about your true interest (00:31:00) Texting etiquette (00:34:26) When too much time passes between responses (00:38:00) Challenges in identifying and connecting with couples online (00:40:25) How honest should you be when breaking plans? (00:43:18) When friends ghost you (00:48:28) Ghosting is subjective and may not always be a bad thing (00:51:58) Be kind, honest, direct, respectful and don’t string people along We'd love to connect with you! Create your own FREE account on Peaches'nCream, the new social media app for your lifestyle! Available on the App Store and on Google Play. INVITE CODE: 2plus2 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://peachesncream.app/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Join the Two Plus Two Podcast Group on Peaches'nCream to see our exclusive photos, post your comments, ask questions and connect with your Two Plus Two Crew: Zack, Josie, Brad & Brittany. Email us your thoughts, comments and ideas at: ⁠⁠hello@twoplustwopodcast.com⁠

    56 min
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Step into a candid, fun, and enlightening conversation with two full-swap couples as they share intimate details about their journey as swingers. Raw and vulnerable, Josie, Zack, Brad and Brittany share their own insecurities, boundaries, and relationship dynamics. They offer practical tips for connecting with others and understanding lifestyle etiquette. This podcast is designed to feel like a close, candid chat among friends. With playful storytelling and real-life advice, it promises to be both entertaining and informative for anyone curious about the swinging lifestyle.

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