Connected Leadership

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Welcome to Connected Leadership, the podcast where leadership gets real. Hosted by Dave Morris and Rich Horton from Zentano, this series is all about helping leaders like you create thriving teams, shape positive workplace cultures, and make a genuine difference in the world. We believe that better leadership creates better organisations—and ultimately, a better world. Each episode brings you grounded wisdom, practical tips, and inspiring stories from real leaders. Expect a mix of unscripted chats, actionable insights, and fascinating guest interviews. Whether you’re navigating the challenges of modern leadership, exploring emotional intelligence, or looking to unlock your own potential, we’ve got you covered. Connect with us: 📍 Website: www.zentanogroup.com 📍 LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/zentano/ 📍 Instagram: @zentanogroup So, grab a cuppa, hit play, and join us every week as we explore what it takes to lead with impact.

  1. 1d ago

    When Someone Is Struggling, but the Work Still Needs Doing | #89

    How do you balance compassion and accountability without falling into the trap of rescuing people. What do you do when a previously reliable team member starts to struggle, their performance slips and the rest of the team begin to feel the impact? Do you step in to help, or do you double-down on holding them to account for getting the work done? In the second episode of our Leadership Dilemmas: What Would You Do? series, Dave and Rich explore one of the most challenging balances in leadership: supporting people through difficult times without lowering expectations or undermining their capability. They examine why performance problems are often symptoms rather than root causes, and how assumptions about someone's motivation, capability or attitude can become self-fulfilling prophecies. Drawing on the Pygmalion effect, they explore how a leader's expectations influence the way they treat people, sometimes reinforcing the very problems they are trying to solve. The conversation also tackles the rescue mindset: when a leader's good intentions lead them to take work away, solve problems for others or lower standards, inadvertently creating dependency rather than building capability. Dave and Rich discuss how coaching, clear expectations, shared ownership and honest follow-through can help leaders strike the right balance between compassion and accountability. The key message? Connected Leadership isn't about choosing between caring for people and getting results. It's about understanding what someone is facing, maintaining belief in their potential and helping them take ownership of the steps needed to move forward. Key talking points Look beneath the surface. Performance problems are symptoms, not necessarily root causes. Understand what's really happening before deciding what needs to change.Challenge your assumptions. How you interpret someone's behaviour can shape how you treat them, creating a self-reinforcing cycle that makes the problem worse.Beware the rescue mindset. Taking work away, solving problems for people and lowering standards can feel supportive, but it may undermine their confidence and capability resulting in a lack of ownership.Balance compassion with accountability. Listen with empathy and curiosity while maintaining clear expectations, boundaries, and ownership.Use coaching to build capability. Support people while they work through challenges rather than automatically stepping in to fix things for them.Have the difficult conversation. Explore what's getting in the way, explain the impact, agree what needs to happen next and establish when progress will be reviewed.Hold two truths together. Someone can be genuinely struggling and still need to address their performance. Compassion doesn't mean endless accommodation. A question to reflect on: Think about someone in your team who is struggling. Are you supporting them in a way that helps them grow, or might you be unintentionally rescuing them and limiting their ability to be resilient?

  2. Oct 2

    The Star Performer Nobody Wants to Work With | #88

    What do you do when someone is delivering outstanding individual results, but other people increasingly don't want to work with them? This is one of the genuine dilemmas’ leaders struggle to face up to, and it’s all too common. The person may be bringing in significant revenue, delivering valuable expertise or consistently hitting their targets, while at the same time damaging relationships, reducing collaboration and eroding trust across the team. In the first episode of our new common leadership dilemmas series, Dave and Rich explore why these situations are so difficult to resolve, and why the answer isn't simply to defend the star performer or remove them. They look at how we define performance, the hidden relational costs that can build up over time, and the danger of allowing strong results to become an exemption from behavioural standards. The conversation also explores a different risk: what happens when leaders become too certain about their diagnosis of someone? Labels such as "difficult", "arrogant" or "toxic" can become sticky stories that shape what we see and reinforce our existing interpretation. Confirmation bias can cause us to look for evidence that supports our judgement, while losing curiosity about what is happening. The Connected Leadership approach is to hold both sides of the dilemma. Leaders need the courage to challenge behaviour that is damaging people, trust or culture, while retaining enough curiosity to test their assumptions and understand what is driving the behaviour. The aim is not to win the conversation or excuse poor behaviour, but to give the person a fair opportunity to understand their impact, to respond and to change. Key talking points Why the "star performer nobody wants to work with" creates a genuine dilemma.Why performance needs to include both individual results and the impact someone has on collective performance.The hidden costs of poor behaviour: reduced trust, collaboration and contribution, disengagement and increased management time.Why organisations can be reluctant to challenge people who deliver strong measurable results.The danger of allowing strong results to buy an exemption from behavioural standards.Why leaders should avoid labels and focus on observable behaviour and its impact.How confirmation bias can reinforce an existing story about someone's character or behaviour.The importance of distinguishing observation from interpretation and actively looking for evidence that might challenge our view.Why curiosity is not about excusing damaging behaviour.How culture is shaped by what leaders reward, challenge, overlook and tolerate.How to approach a conversation with the star performerWhy Connected Leadership combines curiosity with clear accountability.The importance of considering someone's net contribution, rather than simply their headline output.

  3. Sep 25

    How to Lead with Wisdom and Perspective | #87

    We all see the world through a particular lens. Our experiences, values, beliefs, upbringing, personality and assumptions shape the way we interpret what happens around us. The challenge for leaders is that other people are looking at the same situation through very different lenses. In the final episode of our Emotional Intelligence series, Dave and Rich explore what this means for leadership. They discuss why we should not confuse our interpretation of reality with reality itself, how unconscious assumptions can drive our behaviour, and why leadership growth begins with becoming aware of the filters through which we see the world. This episode explores leadership maturity, perspective taking, understanding worldviews, the limits of certainty, developing wisdom and humility and seeing beyond our own assumptions The conversation then moves from perspective to wisdom. Rather than seeing wisdom as “having all the answers”, Rich describes it as the ability to see more of the question. Mature leadership involves becoming more comfortable with complexity, ambiguity, paradox and competing perspectives, while holding onto our values and sense of purpose. The episode brings the whole eight-part Emotional Intelligence series together, suggesting that emotionally intelligent leadership involves knowing ourselves, regulating ourselves, understanding others, recognising our impact, reading the systems around us and continually expanding our perspective. Key talking points Why we don't simply see reality, we interpret it through our own filters.How our upbringing, values, beliefs and experiences shape our perspective.Why leaders need to uncover the assumptions that are driving their behaviour.The difference between understanding another person's perspective and agreeing with it.How perspective taking can reveal our blind spots and improve decision making.The "leaves on a tree" analogy and why none of us sees the whole picture.Finding the right balance of conviction and curiosity.The importance of confidence and humility, clarity and openness.Holding values and purpose strongly, but assumptions and ego lightly.A simple three-stage approach: understand my view, understand other views, then take the wider view.Five key takeaways from the complete Emotional Intelligence series.

  4. Sep 18

    How to navigate organisational power and politics without losing your integrity | #86

    Leadership does not happen in a vacuum. Every organisation has formal structures, informal networks, unwritten rules, competing priorities and complex relationships that shape how decisions get made. In this episode, Rich and Dave explore why many leaders instinctively recoil from the idea of organisational politics, and why avoiding politics does not mean avoiding its effects. They distinguish between unhealthy politics, driven by manipulation, hidden agendas, and self-interest, and healthy politics, which they describe as ethical influence. The conversation also explores the relationship between leadership and power. Power itself is neutral, acting as a catalyst that amplifies the core values, intentions, and character of the person who wields it. While power provides the structural or situational capacity to influence others, leadership dictates the moral direction and ultimate purpose of that influence. When leadership is aligned with ethical principles, power becomes a tool for empowerment, driving collective growth, collaboration, and systemic progress. Conversely, when divorced from accountability and empathy, power easily degrades into a mechanism for coercion and self-preservation. Ultimately, leadership is not defined by the possession of power, but by the responsibility of how it is exercised to serve a larger vision. Power needs to be consciously understood and responsibly stewarded. Emotionally intelligent leaders therefore need to understand not only the people around them, but also the wider system in which those people operate. Rich introduces the People, Power, Purpose and Patterns framework as four lenses for reading organisational dynamics. The episode closes with five practical reminders for leaders who want to become more contextually intelligent without becoming cynical or manipulative. Key Talking Points Why leaders often have such a negative reaction to the word "politics".Why organisations are social systems rather than machines, and why politics cannot simply be avoided.The difference between unhealthy and healthy politics.How influence, negotiation, coalition-building and securing buy-in can all be legitimate leadership skills.The idea of being "wise as serpents and harmless as doves" as a metaphor for combining discernment with integrity.Why emotionally intelligent leaders need to understand both formal and informal organisational structures.The importance of recognising unwritten rules, historical tensions, longstanding loyalties and informal influencers.Why power is neutral but becomes dangerous when it is unconscious and unexamined.How slowing down, observing, being curious and applying critical thinking can help leaders read organisational dynamics more effectively.The People, Power, Purpose and Patterns framework for understanding the system around you.Five key takeaways: embrace healthy politics, don't be naive about power, understand the system you work in, examine your relationship with power, and develop contextual intelligence before acting.

  5. Sep 11

    The Shadow Leaders Cast: Understanding Your Impact on Others | #85

    Leadership isn't just about the decisions we make or the direction we set. It is also about the effect we have on the people around us, often without realising it. In this episode, Rich and Dave explore the idea of the shadow a leader casts. Leaders influence the mood, the behaviour and the conversations around them, simply by being present. Their position carries authority and expectations, meaning people don't just respond to them as individuals. They also respond to the role or "office" they carry. This can create a significant gap between intention and impact. A leader may think they are simply sharing an idea, being decisive or trying to help, while others may experience that behaviour as an instruction, intimidation or micromanagement. As leaders become more senior, authority can also create blind spots by reducing the amount of honest feedback they receive. Rich and Dave explore some of the common shadows that leaders cast, including anxiety, impatience, frustration, certainty, busyness, and stress, but also the positive influence of bringing calmness, curiosity, humility, and confidence into a room. The episode considers how leaders can become more aware of their impact by paying attention to their micro-behaviours, seeking honest feedback and asking themselves how others might be experiencing the role they carry. Ultimately, self-awareness isn't only about understanding what is happening inside us. It is also about recognising what happens to other people when we walk into the room. Key talking points What it means for a leader to "cast a shadow".Why leaders influence the mood and behaviour of a room, whether they intend to or not.The difference between a leader's intention and the impact they create.Why people respond not just to the person, but also to the "office" or role they carry.How authority can make people more cautious, compliant or defensive.Why leaders can receive less truth as they become more senior.Common negative shadows vs more sought after positive shadowsWhy leaders need to pay attention to micro-behaviours and focus on impact, not simply intent.Practical ways to understand your impact, including feedback, 360-degree feedback and checking the mood on the ground.

  6. Sep 4

    The hidden cost of not understanding others beyond your own perspective | #84

    This episode explores why emotionally intelligent leaders challenge assumptions and can stay curious about other people's experiences. Most leaders genuinely care about their people, but caring about someone is not the same as understanding them. In this fifth episode of our Emotional Intelligence series, Dave and Rich explore empathy and why it is one of the most important, and often under-valued, and misunderstood leadership skills. They discuss how our assumptions, experiences and preferences influence the way we interpret other people's behaviour, and why self-awareness is an essential foundation for empathy. Empathy isn't about agreeing with someone, absorbing their emotions or believing you can read their mind. It's about making a genuine effort to understand another person's experience while retaining your own perspective. The episode introduces a practical four-step framework: Tune in, Notice, Interpret and Verify. The challenge for leaders is to treat what they observe as data rather than conclusions, stay curious for longer and check their assumptions before acting on them. Because empathy isn't mind-reading. It's disciplined curiosity. It also has a big impact on the bottom line of a profit and loss account. Key Talking Points Why caring about people doesn't necessarily mean understanding them How assumptions and personal filters can distort our interpretation of others The relationship between self-awareness and empathy The difference between empathy and sympathy, and the importance of maintaining boundaries Why emotional reactions, changes in tone and shifts in energy should be treated as data rather than conclusions The Tune in, Notice, Interpret, Verify framework Why empathy requires curiosity, listening and checking assumptions rather than mind-reading How empathy can help leaders manage change, difficult conversations and differing perspectives more effectively

  7. Aug 7

    How to truly understand your workplace culture by collecting the right data | #83

    In part 2 of this conversation with Matt Robinson, co-founder of CultureNav, Dave explores what leaders can do once they truly understand their workplace culture. The discussion moves beyond engagement surveys and employee feedback to examine how organisations can uncover the behaviours, habits and communication patterns that really influence performance. Matt explains the approach that CultureNav take in collecting the right data, and why communication consistently appears as the biggest cultural challenge. Other common issues discussed include why so many managers are promoted without being prepared for leadership, and how small, consistent behavioural changes often achieve more than large-scale transformation programmes. The conversation also explores the importance of accountability, coaching and transparency, showing how organisations can intentionally build cultures where people perform, grow and thrive. Key Talking Points Why understanding culture goes far beyond engagement surveys. How CultureNav uncovers the behaviours driving organisational performance. Why communication is the biggest challenge in most organisations. The hidden cost of accidental managers. How micro-cultures shape team performance. Why fast-growing organisations must design culture intentionally. The role of coaching and accountability in sustaining change. Practical actions every leader can take to improve culture.

    How to truly understand your workplace culture by collecting the right data | #83

  8. Jul 31

    Why most organisations don’t understand their workplace culture, despite the data they collect | #82

    Every organisation has a culture, but not every organisation understands it. How do you define a workplace culture, let alone measure it! In this first episode of a two-part conversation, Dave is joined by brand and culture specialist Matt Robinson from CultureNav to explore why this topic has become one of the greatest competitive advantages available to modern organisations. Drawing on decades of experience working with businesses of every size, Matt shares his journey into organisational culture, explaining why leaders often confuse measures of their culture with employee engagement stats and/or workplace perks, and why genuine culture is reflected in the decisions people make every day. The conversation explores the red flags and warning signs, highlighting why culture isn't created through mission statements or values on a wall, but through a deeper understanding of people, a focus on collaboration, connection, and empathy and consistent leadership habits and actions. This episode lays the foundations for Part Two, where the discussion moves into how culture can be measured and developed using data-driven insights. Key Talking Points Matt's leadership journey and how he became passionate about organisational culture.What culture means, what it is, and what it isn’tWhy culture is increasingly becoming a strategic advantage.Why values only matter when they influence everyday behaviour.Why organisations often misunderstand the culture they have created.The importance of humility and curiosity in effective leadership.Why evidence should replace assumptions when talking about culture.How leaders shape culture through everyday decisions.

    Why most organisations don’t understand their workplace culture, despite the data they collect | #82
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Welcome to Connected Leadership, the podcast where leadership gets real. Hosted by Dave Morris and Rich Horton from Zentano, this series is all about helping leaders like you create thriving teams, shape positive workplace cultures, and make a genuine difference in the world. We believe that better leadership creates better organisations—and ultimately, a better world. Each episode brings you grounded wisdom, practical tips, and inspiring stories from real leaders. Expect a mix of unscripted chats, actionable insights, and fascinating guest interviews. Whether you’re navigating the challenges of modern leadership, exploring emotional intelligence, or looking to unlock your own potential, we’ve got you covered. Connect with us: 📍 Website: www.zentanogroup.com 📍 LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/company/zentano/ 📍 Instagram: @zentanogroup So, grab a cuppa, hit play, and join us every week as we explore what it takes to lead with impact.

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  • Creator
    Zentano
  • Years Active
    2025 - 2026
  • Episodes
    89
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