The PERE Podcast

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The PERE Podcast features a weekly discussion between members of our senior editorial team spanning formation, strategy and deployment, and regularly draws from the ongoing coverage of PERE, as well as affiliate titles PERE Credit and PERE Deals. We also occasionally host sponsored interviews providing analysis-led commentary about the biggest events in private real estate capital markets around the world. Visit perenews.com, peredeals.com and perecredit.com for more.

  1. 2d ago

    PERE Credit 100 launch arrives at an industry-wide inflection point

    The launch of the inaugural PERE Credit 100 ranking marks a defining moment for real estate private credit, reflecting both the sector’s sustained growth and its evolving role within institutional investor portfolios.   To mark the milestone, PERE Credit hosted a launch breakfast last week at New York’s One Vanderbilt, bringing together leading market participants from across the industry. Senior lending and investor relations professionals took part in a panel moderated by Daniel Cunningham, PERE Credit’s Europe editor.   On this episode of The PERE Podcast, host McKenna Leavens is joined by Cunningham and Samantha Rowan, editor of PERE Credit, to unpack the key takeaways from the event and explore where the private real estate credit market is heading next. Later in the episode, partner and head of real estate credit at KKR, Matt Salem, speaks to what he is hearing from his desk. The PERE Podcast has been granted permission to publish this exclusive excerpt from an off-the-record panel. The data underscores the sector’s momentum. The top 50 managers in the ranking raised $304.7 billion over the past five years, an 18 percent increase compared to the prior year’s cumulative total across the same base period. Yet, as Cunningham notes, the story behind the numbers is more complex than it first appears. While capital continues to flow into the sector broadly, real estate credit still lacks a clearly defined allocation within institutional portfolios, leaving it in a somewhat ambiguous position between asset classes like real estate equity and corporate credit.  Looking ahead, the opportunity set for real estate credit appears compelling, supported by reset valuations and a significant wave of refinancing activity. However, uncertainty around interest rates, regulatory pressures and broader technological disruption continues to cloud the outlook.  As PERE Credit expands its global footprint, the Credit 100 ranking offers a timely benchmark for a sector that is not only scaling, but still in the process of defining its role within the broader investment landscape.

    17 min

  2. Jun 4

    Digital Realty CEO Andy Power: Private fundraising is 'critical to the success of our company'

    With digital transformation workflows already well engrained in data center demand, cloud computing needs growing by almost a third annually, and a world entering an era defined by artificial intelligence, Austin-based Digital Realty finds itself facing serious capital requirements. The world's biggest data center REIT by footprint, the firm is turning to private markets for a solution that can complement its already extensive use of public equity and debt markets. In the same month PERE broke news of the REIT’s plans to launch both open- and closed-ended private funds in each of the three major regions, CEO Andy Power spoke to The PERE Podcast about the thesis behind Digital Realty's plans amid the wider capital and opportunity context. Listen as Power speaks – in person – to PERE editor‑in‑chief Jonathan Brasse about the move and why private markets may be best positioned to support what the firm sees as an unprecedented wave of investment demand.

    40 min

  3. May 19

    ‘A lot of unnecessary risk’: Lagging performance has managers’ losses under scrutiny

    The post-covid era and its historically challenged fund vintages have invited greater scrutiny of managers’ track records and particularly their willingness to accept risk. As investors consider allocating more capital into an anticipated market upswing, one metric is increasingly catching their attention. Loss ratios – in short, the percentage of a fund or manager’s deals that result in losses – have long been tracked as a simple way of assessing how much risk a firm typically takes on. But they are now rising in prominence as fund exits reveal just how widespread the losses have been over the last five years. This episode takes listeners inside this month’s PERE cover story on loss ratios and how investors and their consultants are using them to take a more nuanced view of fund and manager performance. Listen as host Greg Dool speaks with PERE editor Evelyn Lee to break down the numbers and how allocators are interpreting them. Joining the episode is Jeff Giller, head of StepStone Real Estate, who shares his perspective on loss ratios and how they relate to other key metrics.

    23 min

  4. May 8

    Sixth Street’s Alvarado: Future winners ‘need to be more than capital’

    It's difficult to have any conversation about private capital markets today without artificial intelligence adoption or private credit tension coming up. Whether the take is positive, neutral or negative, very real risks are leading more capital partners to look for alternative realms in which to diversify their holdings and line up management partners who excel beyond pure investment activity. For globally scaled managers in the space, such as Sixth Street, today’s market is shaping up to offer more opportunities, but the real estate market still has its own obstacles to grapple with. Whether vying for a slice of the senior housing market or simply trying to stave off turbulence until clear skies emerge, being an active dealmaker in 2026 carries its own set of hurdles. In this episode of The PERE Podcast, Marcos Alvarado, a partner at Sixth Street and its head of US real estate, gives us an inside look at how his team is approaching the investment puzzle as it relates to private real estate credit and equity markets. The global real estate investment manager has been looking beyond pure capital relations to further differentiate itself from contemporaries in the current market. As Alvarado notes, market participants are prioritizing firms that can add to their artificial intelligence understanding and implementation, enhance their portfolio allocation approach, and provide bespoke data insights beyond what is available in the mainstream.

    23 min

  5. May 1

    David Hodes: ‘Why Chatham? They leaned in heavily on technology’

    Consolidation comes for every facet of the real estate landscape at some point, or so the most scaled participants and their acquisition targets often say.  But in today’s market, specialized managers and their business partners are looking for more than just assets under management when evaluating inorganic growth opportunities. In the case of Chatham Financial's acquisition of Hodes Weill & Associates, broken exclusively last week by PERE, the value of connectivity was on full display.  In this episode, David Hodes, co-managing partner and founder of the business named in his and Douglas Weill's sake, joins the discussion to unpack where the team sees opportunities moving forward, especially as repeat relations and data capabilities play more outsized roles in a perceivably tougher capital-raising environment.  The blending of Chatham and Hodes Weill ultimately creates an all-weather outfit which will see real estate debt and equity lines merged into a larger combined force, a resounding theme playing out among fund managers in today’s market too. And with allocators wanting more concentrated partner rosters, such a combination is expected to make a smoother roadway for capital relations ahead.

    33 min

  6. Apr 24

    The cost of capital is climbing – and dealflow is feeling the strain

    The real estate investment management market is coming to terms with its latest hurdle this week. The cost of debt has been on the rise for some time, as select managers have told affiliated PERE titles. And in today’s market, the cost of doing business may now be outweighing borrowers’ ability to keep pace and hold their investment strategies steady heading into this market cycle. Though the impact to date has been moderate, as highlighted earlier this week in analysis shared by PERE, central banks are moving toward more defensive positions. The possibility of rate cuts has diminished as a result, as noted in a March episode of The PERE Podcast. All this sets the table for how borrowers will need to reshape their own tack to keep lines open with debt capital markets while they have liquidity to keep capital moving. In this episode, PGIM’s head of real estate credit strategies Bryan McDonnell provides his perspective on the situation at hand. Be it at the Newark-based manager or beyond, real estate fund managers and investors are having to recalculate their basis and re-order how they navigate the next wave of acquisitions, holds and exits arriving in their pipelines.

    24 min
  7. Arrow Global’s playbook for value-add returns in European hospitality

    Apr 21

    Arrow Global’s playbook for value-add returns in European hospitality

    This episode is sponsored by Arrow Global European hospitality markets have thrived in the post-pandemic period, supported by a surge in international visitor numbers. And the warmer climate of Southern Europe makes countries like Spain, Portugal, Italy and Greece enduringly popular with holidaymakers. Investment capital has flowed in, driving rapid institutionalization of a market formerly characterized by family-run hotels. Southern European hospitality markets offer a range of entry points for investors across the capital stack, from equity to senior credit, and the opportunity to make attractive income-driven returns. However, increased competition means bargains have become hard to find. In this special episode of The PERE Podcast, John Calvao, co-founder and head of real estate and hospitality at Arrow Global, offers insights on how to navigate the challenges of a market where execution risk is considerable and customers are demanding ever-increasing levels of service. He argues that local expertise and on-the-ground delivery capability are crucial to managing costs and ensuring that capex is spent where it generates the greatest impact on returns. Calvao also explains the importance of controlling resort “ecosystems” so that hotels, amenities and attractions like golf courses combine to generate year-round activity and maximize revenue.

    23 min

  8. Apr 20

    Latest fundraising data: volumes fall but less time is spent on the road

    In this episode, the team looks at the preliminary findings of PERE's Q1 2026 fundraising report. Listen as host Lucy Scott discusses the trends behind these numbers with PERE senior reporter Christie Ou, Real Estate Capital Europe editor Daniel Cunningham, and PEI research manager Kristina Savcenkova, who worked on the data. Among the headline themes is that fundraising is down, with managers raising just under $44 billion globally in Q1 2026, down from $81.4 billion a year earlier. While the drop partly reflects the absence of the mega-fundraisings seen in early 2025, it also points to a more selective market. Another key shift this quarter was the resurgence of value‑add strategies, which accounted for more than half of all capital raised. Debt strategies also remain in favor. However, despite subdued volumes, there were encouraging signs beneath the headline numbers. Funds are closing faster, and a growing proportion are meeting or exceeding their target sizes – suggesting that the market is finding its footing, even amid ongoing macro uncertainty.

    27 min
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The PERE Podcast features a weekly discussion between members of our senior editorial team spanning formation, strategy and deployment, and regularly draws from the ongoing coverage of PERE, as well as affiliate titles PERE Credit and PERE Deals. We also occasionally host sponsored interviews providing analysis-led commentary about the biggest events in private real estate capital markets around the world. Visit perenews.com, peredeals.com and perecredit.com for more.

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